coach gen to house

[Ernie Ekberg]

Wallace- going to be in low 20's tonite. Don't come home, yet!! Ernie Ekberg 88 PT40 817-475-3991 www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Sat, 2/11/12, Wallace Craig wrote: From: Wallace Craig Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: coach gen to house To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 1:59 PM If I hear of anyone, I will sure send them your way. Wallace & Faye Craig 95 WLWB 42 Azle, Texas From: HANK To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:44 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: coach gen to house Wallace: I forgot u were a trial Lawyer....how about a shark to shark courtesy and find me a Texas buyer for my 90SP36? Thanks, Hank Hannigan 90SP36 currently in OZ --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wallace Craig wrote: > > I did a post yesterday which apparently never made it. > > I said as a retired trial lawyer, if you do the gen hookup and do it wrong and hurt someone, you are toast. I doubt that you have any insurance that would cover you inthe event of an injury. Very risky all around. > Wallace & Faye Craig > 95 WLWB 42 > Azle, Texas > > > >________________________________ > >From: "PDMcCripe@..." > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:05 PM > >Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] coach gen to house > > > > > > > > > >This would seem an excellentnote on whichto conclude this discussion. Commercial power shall return before any appropriate modifications to your existing electrical distribution system can be designed and installed. Furthermore,your objective is much more practically realized by the purchase of an auxiliary AC generator properly wired to your household system in anticipation of future failures of the commercial source. K.I.S.S. > > > >Regards, > >Donn Borden > >________________________________________________________________________________​__________ > > > >In a message dated 1/23/2012 7:38:58 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, wallacecraig1@... writes: > > > >>As a retired personal injury lawyer, I will tell you that if you do this wrong and hurt someone, you are toast. I doubt that you have any insurancethat would provide you coverage and a judgment against you is a foregone conclusion. > >> > >>Just thought you should know. > >> > >>Wallace & Faye Craig > >>95 WLWB 42 > >>Azle, Texas > >> > >> > >> > >>>________________________________ > >>>From: BG > >>>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:25 PM > >>>Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] coach gen to house > >>> > >>>At the coach: The existing 50 amp shore > >>>connection is designed to get power TO the > >>>coach's breaker panel. The coach's transfer > >>>switch prevents generator power from getting > >>>to the 50 amp shore connection, as it should. > >>>Power from the genset goes only to the > >>>coach's breaker panel, and only when the > >>>transfer switch is set to "Gen". That is why > >>>adding a 50 amp breaker and receptacle to the > >>>coach's panel makes sense. There are other > >>>possibilities like tapping into the genset at > >>>the transfer switch, but this would probably > >>>be more difficult to design and implement > >>>(and more dangerous) than just adding a 50 > >>>amp branch circuit to the existing panel with > >>>inexpensive garden variety building supply > >>>parts. > >>> > >>>At the house: There must be a transfer > >>>switch installed at the house's panel so that > >>>power can be fed to the panel from the power > >>>company or from a genset. The switch has two > >>>purposes: 1. To select the power source, > >>>and 2. To assure that power from both the > >>>power company and the genset can NEVER reach > >>>the panel at the same time. This is an > >>>extremely important safety issue for > >>>protection of both the homeowner and power > >>>company electricians. Even a sloppy > >>>electrical design still tends to be > >>>foolproof; pulling a breaker instead of > >>>installing a transfer switch is far from > >>>foolproof. > >>> > >>>So in reality, the connections are usually > >>>NOT there. I've seen the odd coach where a > >>>50 amp receptacle has been added, and lots of > >>>houses already have a generator transfer > >>>switch. If those changes are not already > >>>made, they need to be. > >>> > >>>There are outlaw methods that could be used > >>>instead (like pulling or turning off the > >>>house's main breaker), but even in the hands > >>>of a well practiced electrician this can lead > >>>to damage, fire, injury, or death. The same > >>>could be said for trying to turn the coach's > >>>shore power connector into a source of genset > >>>power. Twelve kilowatts of power is no joke. > >>> > >>>Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >>>[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On > >>>Behalf Of chaunceyboyblu > >>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:28 A > >>>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >>>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] coach gen to > >>>house > >>> > >>>I guess I just don't understand why all the > >>>modifications need to be made to reverse the > >>>situation with electricity. It seems the > >>>connection is already there. In my mind A > >>>modification to the switch near the front > >>>door that switches between shore 50/30 and > >>>gen would be all that is needed. Also pulling > >>>the breaker/switch that connects the house to > >>>the grid. > >>> > >>>Robert Rahn > >>>88 pt 40 > >>>Kalispell, Mt. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------ > >>> > >>>Yahoo! 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[Wallace Craig]

OOP'S; we came back last week.It will warmup soon.

Wallace & Faye Craig

95 WLWB 42

Azle, Texas

From: Ernie Ekberg
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: coach gen to house

Wallace- going to be in low 20's tonite. Don't come home, yet!! Ernie Ekberg 88 PT40 817-475-3991 www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Sat, 2/11/12, Wallace Craig wrote: From: Wallace Craig Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: coach gen to house To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 1:59 PM If I hear of anyone, I will sure send them your way. Wallace & Faye Craig 95 WLWB 42 Azle, Texas From: HANK To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:44 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: coach gen to house Wallace:I forgot u were a trial Lawyer....how about a shark to shark courtesy and find me a Texas buyer for my 90SP36?Thanks,Hank Hannigan90SP36currently in OZ--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wallace Craig wrote:>> I did a post yesterday which apparently never made it.> > I said as a retired trial lawyer, if you do the gen hookup and do it wrong and hurt someone, you are toast. I doubt that you have any insurance that would cover you inthe event of an injury. Very risky all around.> Wallace & Faye Craig> 95 WLWB 42> Azle, Texas> > > >________________________________> >From: "PDMcCripe@..." > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:05 PM> >Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] coach gen to house> >> >> >> >> >This would seem an excellentnote on whichto conclude this discussion. Commercial power shall return before any appropriate modifications to your existing electrical distribution system can be designed and installed. Furthermore,your objective is much more practically realized by the purchase of an auxiliary AC generator properly wired to your household system in anticipation of future failures of the commercial source. K.I.S.S.> >> >Regards,> >Donn Borden> >________________________________________________________________________________​__________> >> >In a message dated 1/23/2012 7:38:58 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, wallacecraig1@... writes:> > > >>As a retired personal injury lawyer, I will tell you that if you do this wrong and hurt someone, you are toast. I doubt that you have any insurancethat would provide you coverage and a judgment against you is a foregone conclusion.> >>> >>Just thought you should know.> >>> >>Wallace & Faye Craig> >>95 WLWB 42> >>Azle, Texas> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________> >>>From: BG > >>>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:25 PM> >>>Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] coach gen to house> >>>> >>>At the coach: The existing 50 amp shore> >>>connection is designed to get power TO the> >>>coach's breaker panel. The coach's transfer> >>>switch prevents generator power from getting> >>>to the 50 amp shore connection, as it should.> >>>Power from the genset goes only to the> >>>coach's breaker panel, and only when the> >>>transfer switch is set to "Gen". That is why> >>>adding a 50 amp breaker and receptacle to the> >>>coach's panel makes sense. There are other> >>>possibilities like tapping into the genset at> >>>the transfer switch, but this would probably> >>>be more difficult to design and implement> >>>(and more dangerous) than just adding a 50> >>>amp branch circuit to the existing panel with> >>>inexpensive garden variety building supply> >>>parts.> >>>> >>>At the house: There must be a transfer> >>>switch installed at the house's panel so that> >>>power can be fed to the panel from the power> >>>company or from a genset. The switch has two> >>>purposes: 1. To select the power source,> >>>and 2. To assure that power from both the> >>>power company and the genset can NEVER reach> >>>the panel at the same time. This is an> >>>extremely important safety issue for> >>>protection of both the homeowner and power> >>>company electricians. Even a sloppy> >>>electrical design still tends to be> >>>foolproof; pulling a breaker instead of> >>>installing a transfer switch is far from> >>>foolproof.> >>>> >>>So in reality, the connections are usually> >>>NOT there. I've seen the odd coach where a> >>>50 amp receptacle has been added, and lots of> >>>houses already have a generator transfer> >>>switch. If those changes are not already> >>>made, they need to be.> >>>> >>>There are outlaw methods that could be used> >>>instead (like pulling or turning off the> >>>house's main breaker), but even in the hands> >>>of a well practiced electrician this can lead> >>>to damage, fire, injury, or death. The same> >>>could be said for trying to turn the coach's> >>>shore power connector into a source of genset> >>>power. Twelve kilowatts of power is no joke.> >>>> >>>Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA> >>>> >>>-----Original Message-----> >>>From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com> >>>[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On> >>>Behalf Of chaunceyboyblu> >>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:28 A> >>>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com> >>>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] coach gen to> >>>house> >>>> >>>I guess I just don't understand why all the> >>>modifications need to be made to reverse the> >>>situation with electricity. It seems the> >>>connection is already there. In my mind A> >>>modification to the switch near the front> >>>door that switches between shore 50/30 and> >>>gen would be all that is needed. Also pulling> >>>the breaker/switch that connects the house to> >>>the grid. > >>>> >>>Robert Rahn> >>>88 pt 40> >>>Kalispell, Mt.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------------> >>>> >>>Yahoo! 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