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08-31-2005, 14:29
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Entrance step
Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the
step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door) contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated Scott B 86FC35 "RUBY" Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step) |
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09-01-2005, 00:19
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Scott
That pin is the rod end of a piston in a air cylinder...It is air only one way...the return is spring return....sometimes the weight of the step pushing on the rod is to much for the spring to overcome. In fact, you can tweek it enough by stepping on the stairs to bend it thus preventing it from retracting. tap it with a hammer on the end of the rod... Blair in Oregon At 07:29 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote: >Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the >step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of >the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and >now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the >frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door) >contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what >that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the >downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the >info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the >relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on >this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated > >Scott B >86FC35 "RUBY" >Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step) > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...echni\ cian&w2=Insurance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recr\ eational+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehicles&c=6&\ s=188&.sig=EDDaIQznS0PQGGsv0E6u0w>Automotive >technician ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Insu...omoti\ ve+technician&w2=Insurance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+trainin\ g&w4=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehi\ cles&c=6&s=188&.sig=yiYwOMt51JiJ8YUBE10JSA>Insurance >recreational vehicle ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...omoti\ ve+technician&w2=Insurance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+trainin\ g&w4=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehi\ cles&c=6&s=188&.sig=kXzrzF_m41ZCDiA34KbjJQ>Automotive >technician training ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...omoti\ ve+technician&w2=Insurance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+trainin\ g&w4=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehi\ cles&c=6&s=188&.sig=wTOxEqp8tMNJu0ZdIX1FwQ>Recreational >vehicle financing ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...chnic\ ian&w2=Insurance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recre\ ational+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehicles&c=6&s\ =188&.sig=UACn1lExGdwL8EIRxLUVrA>Automotive >equipment ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...echni\ cian&w2=Insurance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recr\ eational+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehicles&c=6&\ s=188&.sig=RGLkh_hVIHgQqZTE9d-WrQ>Recreational >vehicles > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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09-01-2005, 00:28
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Entrance step
Scott
I am having the same problem now and posted last week on it. Response was to snip the two wires that would render the safety switch that keeps the step from closing on your foot, in op. Mine were already snipped. BTW try starting the cat and putting it in drive, roll about a foot and see if the step goes in. Mine does when I do this. dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. >From: "Scott" >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Entrance step >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:29:51 -0000 > >Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the >step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of >the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and >now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the >frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door) >contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what >that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the >downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the >info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the >relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on >this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated > >Scott B >86FC35 "RUBY" >Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step) > > > |
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09-01-2005, 01:43
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Thanks Blair will check that today after I return from the Dr's visit
(85miles one way) I will let you know ..BTW would you email me regarding the fuel investments you were talking about. thanks Scott B 86FC35 SC -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Blair > Scott > That pin is the rod end of a piston in a air cylinder...It is air > only one way...the return > is spring return....sometimes the weight of the step pushing on the rod is > to much for the > spring to overcome. In fact, you can tweek it enough by stepping on the > stairs to bend it > thus preventing it from retracting. tap it with a hammer on the end of > the rod... > > Blair in Oregon > > > > > > At 07:29 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote: > >Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the > >step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of > >the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and > >now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the > >frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door) > >contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what > >that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the > >downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the > >info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the > >relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on > >this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated > > > >Scott B > >86FC35 "RUBY" > >Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step) > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+technician&w1=Automotive+technician&w2=Insurance+rec reational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recreational+ve hicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehicles&c=6&s =188&.sig=EDDaIQznS0PQGGsv0E6u0w>Automotive > >technician > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Insurance+recreational+vehicle&w1=Automotive+technician&w2=Insu rance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recrea tional+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehic les&c=6&s=188&.sig=yiYwOMt51JiJ8YUBE10JSA>Insurance > >recreational vehicle > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+technician+training&w1=Automotive+technician&w2=Insu rance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recrea tional+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehic les&c=6&s=188&.sig=kXzrzF_m41ZCDiA34KbjJQ>Automotive > >technician training > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w1=Automotive+technician&w2=Insu rance+recreational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recrea tional+vehicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehic les&c=6&s=188&.sig=wTOxEqp8tMNJu0ZdIX1FwQ>Recreational > >vehicle financing > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+equipment&w1=Automotive+technician&w2=Insurance+recr eational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recreational+veh icle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehicles&c=6&s= 188&.sig=UACn1lExGdwL8EIRxLUVrA>Automotive > >equipment > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Automotive+technician&w2=Insurance+rec reational+vehicle&w3=Automotive+technician+training&w4=Recreational+ve hicle+financing&w5=Automotive+equipment&w6=Recreational+vehicles&c=6&s =188&.sig=RGLkh_hVIHgQqZTE9d-WrQ>Recreational > >vehicles > > > > > >---------- > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group > > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > * > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > * > > > > > > * > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > >---------- > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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09-01-2005, 01:46
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Entrance step
Hey Dan thanks for the reply. But when I went to fuel the bird last
night it just stayed out. It has been working great. BTW paid 2.65/gal for fuel and was happy..now theres a statement..sheesh.. Scott 86FC35 SC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Darst" wrote: > Scott > I am having the same problem now and posted last week on it. Response was to > snip the two wires that would render the safety switch that keeps the step > from closing on your foot, in op. Mine were already snipped. > > BTW try starting the cat and putting it in drive, roll about a foot and see > if the step goes in. Mine does when I do this. > > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil. > > > >From: "Scott" > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Entrance step > >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:29:51 -0000 > > > >Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the > >step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of > >the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and > >now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the > >frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door) > >contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what > >that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the > >downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the > >info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the > >relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on > >this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated > > > >Scott B > >86FC35 "RUBY" > >Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step) > > > > > > |
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09-01-2005, 02:21
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Entrance step
Hey Scott,
Our step is similar to the troubling shooting guide in the files. Some earlier air step circuits are different. Try checking the two ground wires under the air solenoid valve and the two plug on soleniod electrical connectors on each side of the same switch. These connections have a tendency to corrode. This helped our intermittent step. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" wrote: > Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the > step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of > the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and > now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the > frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door) > contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what > that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the > downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the > info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the > relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on > this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated > > Scott B > 86FC35 "RUBY" > Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step) |
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09-03-2005, 04:53
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Entrance step
Scott, takes to long to type...one hand...call me any day at around 5 pm
pacific.... 541-955-4520 Blair At 06:43 AM 9/1/2005, you wrote: >Thanks Blair will check that today after I return from the Dr's visit >(85miles one way) I will let you know ..BTW would you email me >regarding the fuel investments you were talking about. thanks > >Scott B >86FC35 >SC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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09-05-2005, 12:47
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Entrance step
Just got done working on mine.
I had two issues. 1. There are two ground wires that come off the air solenoids. Each wire grounds each of the solenoids. They are grounded at a common connector. Check this ground. 2. There are two power leads that go to the air switch solenoids. One powers the solenoid in one direction and the other powers it in the opposite direction. I would have a helper push the Door Jam Switch and see it you get power on one or the other wire. One has power when the door is closed and the other has power when the door is open. Be careful. The step can cycle and take a finger. Also you will notice two buttons on the end of each air solenoid switch. If you have air pressure you can manually push the buttons to cycle the step up and down even without power. 3. The strip switch is the wire that runs along the edge above the step. If you were to get a foot stuck between the step and the chassis the step is stopped. 4. You can also adjust the speed of the steps in and out on the air switch. --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" wrote: > Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the > step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of > the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and > now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the > frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door) > contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what > that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the > downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the > info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the > relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on > this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated > > Scott B > 86FC35 "RUBY" > Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step) |
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