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Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the
step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of
the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and
now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the
frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door)
contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what
that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the
downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the
info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the
relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on
this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated

Scott B
86FC35 "RUBY"
Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step)

Scott
That pin is the rod end of a piston in a air cylinder...It is air
only one way...the return
is spring return....sometimes the weight of the step pushing on the rod is
to much for the
spring to overcome. In fact, you can tweek it enough by stepping on the
stairs to bend it
thus preventing it from retracting. tap it with a hammer on the end of
the rod...

Blair in Oregon





At 07:29 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
>Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the
>step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of
>the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and
>now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the
>frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door)
>contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what
>that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the
>downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the
>info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the
>relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on
>this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated
>
>Scott B
>86FC35 "RUBY"
>Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step)
>
>
>
>
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Scott
I am having the same problem now and posted last week on it. Response was to
snip the two wires that would render the safety switch that keeps the step
from closing on your foot, in op. Mine were already snipped.

BTW try starting the cat and putting it in drive, roll about a foot and see
if the step goes in. Mine does when I do this.

dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil.


>From: "Scott"
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Entrance step
>Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:29:51 -0000
>
>Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the
>step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most of
>the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and
>now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in the
>frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door)
>contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is what
>that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the
>downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no avail ..the
>info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of the
>relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on
>this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated
>
>Scott B
>86FC35 "RUBY"
>Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step)
>
>
>

Thanks Blair will check that today after I return from the Dr's visit
(85miles one way) I will let you know ..BTW would you email me
regarding the fuel investments you were talking about. thanks

Scott B
86FC35
SC

-- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Blair wrote:
> Scott
> That pin is the rod end of a piston in a air cylinder...It
is air
> only one way...the return
> is spring return....sometimes the weight of the step pushing on the
rod is
> to much for the
> spring to overcome. In fact, you can tweek it enough by stepping
on the
> stairs to bend it
> thus preventing it from retracting. tap it with a hammer on the
end of
> the rod...
>
> Blair in Oregon
>
>
>
>
>
> At 07:29 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
> >Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the
> >step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most
of
> >the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and
> >now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in
the
> >frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door)
> >contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is
what
> >that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the
> >downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no
avail ..the
> >info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of
the
> >relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on
> >this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated
> >
> >Scott B
> >86FC35 "RUBY"
> >Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step)
> >
> >
> >
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Hey Dan thanks for the reply. But when I went to fuel the bird last
night it just stayed out. It has been working great. BTW paid
2.65/gal for fuel and was happy..now theres a statement..sheesh..

Scott
86FC35
SC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Darst"
wrote:
> Scott
> I am having the same problem now and posted last week on it.
Response was to
> snip the two wires that would render the safety switch that keeps
the step
> from closing on your foot, in op. Mine were already snipped.
>
> BTW try starting the cat and putting it in drive, roll about a foot
and see
> if the step goes in. Mine does when I do this.
>
> dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil.
>
>
> >From: "Scott"
> >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Entrance step
> >Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:29:51 -0000
> >
> >Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the
> >step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most
of
> >the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and
> >now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in
the
> >frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door)
> >contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is
what
> >that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the
> >downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no
avail ..the
> >info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of
the
> >relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on
> >this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated
> >
> >Scott B
> >86FC35 "RUBY"
> >Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step)
> >
> >
> >

Hey Scott,

Our step is similar to the troubling shooting guide in the files.
Some earlier air step circuits are different.
Try checking the two ground wires under the air solenoid valve and
the two plug on soleniod electrical connectors on each side of the
same switch. These connections have a tendency to corrode.
This helped our intermittent step.

Bill 88 FC Michigan



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
> Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not
working..the
> step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most
of
> the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and
> now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in
the
> frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door)
> contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is
what
> that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got
the
> downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no
avail ..the
> info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of
the
> relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise
on
> this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated
>
> Scott B
> 86FC35 "RUBY"
> Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step)

Scott, takes to long to type...one hand...call me any day at around 5 pm
pacific....
541-955-4520
Blair





At 06:43 AM 9/1/2005, you wrote:
>Thanks Blair will check that today after I return from the Dr's visit
>(85miles one way) I will let you know ..BTW would you email me
>regarding the fuel investments you were talking about. thanks
>
>Scott B
>86FC35
>SC


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Just got done working on mine.
I had two issues.

1. There are two ground wires that come off the air solenoids. Each
wire grounds each of the solenoids. They are grounded at a common
connector. Check this ground.

2. There are two power leads that go to the air switch solenoids.
One powers the solenoid in one direction and the other powers it in
the opposite direction. I would have a helper push the Door Jam
Switch and see it you get power on one or the other wire. One has
power when the door is closed and the other has power when the door
is open. Be careful. The step can cycle and take a finger.

Also you will notice two buttons on the end of each air solenoid
switch. If you have air pressure you can manually push the buttons to
cycle the step up and down even without power.

3. The strip switch is the wire that runs along the edge above the
step. If you were to get a foot stuck between the step and the
chassis the step is stopped.

4. You can also adjust the speed of the steps in and out on the air
switch.



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott"
wrote:
> Hey folks..The entrance step on "RUBY" (86FC35) is not working..the
> step is out. I have been trying to track down the reason for most
of
> the day. It worked fine the last time we used the coach and
> now..nadda..It looks like there is a pin (air operated) that is in
the
> frame of the step and will not move. When I push the jam (door)
> contacts in I hear a click in the transfer compartment (that is
what
> that relay is all about..and the plastic cover is cloudy) I got the
> downloads from the forum about trouble shooting it..to no
avail ..the
> info (on the forum)is for a SP and not for a FC so the location of
the
> relays,power etc is different. HELP..can anyone give some advise on
> this situation?? Any/All help would be appreciated
>
> Scott B
> 86FC35 "RUBY"
> Murrells Inlet SC (Right next to heaven..with no step)