Need new muffler DD Series 60

[Stephen Birtles]

Search out mac mufflers in surrey BC they make customs mufflers of all
types
Stephen 77fc35
dupreeproducts.com




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hulse" wrote:
>
> Pete
> I think you know as well as the rest of us is that "you don't need a
Blue Bird muffler, you need a muffler for a Blue Bird".
> It may sound ridiculous,but it is the way it is said whether or not
you get what you want.
> I think Monday morning will be a more resourceful experience.
>
> Fred & Jeanne Hulse
> Morristown Arizona
> 1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41
>

[Pete Masterson]

Stephen,

Appreciate the suggestion -- but that's a long way from Southern CA....

I've found some good prospects that I'll "educate" the service
manager about on Monday morning... including Dynamax, a provider of
heavy duty exhaust systems located right here in the LA area. Looks
like simply give them a list of the components (with sizes) and they
have it all off the shelf...

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at CCW in Riverside CA



On Jun 1, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Stephen Birtles wrote:

> Search out mac mufflers in surrey BC they make customs mufflers of all
> types
> Stephen 77fc35
> dupreeproducts.com
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hulse"
> wrote:
>>
>> Pete
>> I think you know as well as the rest of us is that "you don't need a
> Blue Bird muffler, you need a muffler for a Blue Bird".
>> It may sound ridiculous,but it is the way it is said whether or not
> you get what you want.
>> I think Monday morning will be a more resourceful experience.
>>
>> Fred & Jeanne Hulse
>> Morristown Arizona
>> 1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41
>>
>
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>
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[Gregory OConnor]

I think they get forum business because forum members who went there
are too polite to be truthful. I dont have an honest opinion of
their service because so far any thing I cant fix RobR and CurtS did
the repair for beer. I did notice that the whole organization is set
up in mini corporate names and they make it a point to let you know
that. Therefor you dont benifit from the great resource the Custom
Coach builders (what ever name they use) have.

I will be around on Monday after an early demolition job if you need
help running parts or the like. (I dont drink beer, just diet pepsi)
DeAnza will steer you local and right.

GregoryO'Connor
951-830-5997


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> You're right ... they have a separate BB service facility (at the
> front of their property) and the crew doesn't much interface with
the
> rest of CCW. The only apparent interaction occurs when the "roach
> coach" arrives at break time...
>
> I'm also suffering from a service manager who's been on the job
here
> for about a week... so I don't think he's as fully aware of
> opportunities as he should be.
>
> I've found that Dynaflex, located in Commerce, CA, is a
manufacturer
> of heavy duty mufflers and accessories (Colton Truck Supply lists
> them as one of their suppliers) and they have an extensive
catalog --
> give them the measurements and they have the components. It looks
to
> me as if CCW could just pull the muffler, measure it up, and
order
> the necessary pieces from DynaFlex (or through CTS).
>
> I overheard the service manager and he kept asking about "blue
bird
> mufflers" and getting "no don't have it" ... I think he may have
been
> going about the process in the wrong way. I plan to discuss this
with
> him on Monday morning.
>
> (I was offline for several days due to a computer glitch that I
> finally solved. Dumb Verizon software was giving me an incorrect
> error message that led me astray for awhile. Now that I'm online,
I'm
> beginning to find a considerable number of potential
opportunities.)
>
> I also note that in the BB section waiting room, there is a bus
> industry magazine that reproduced a CCW press release discussion
how
> they converted a bunch of transit busses from ground level to
rooftop
> exhaust systems. I can't imagine that CCW doesn't have the
capability
> onsite to bend up some exhaust pipe.... <sigh>
>
> Macy was in Ft Valley this week, and is expected to be "in" on
Monday
> -- I think I'll have a word or two with him as well...
>
> While the CCW folks have been decent to me, they sure could use a
> dump station on their facility...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at CCW in Riverside, CA
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2008, at 10:01 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > I cant see why it would take that long for The CCW RV guys to fix
> > it. they may not be consulting the guys in the custom coach
> > fabricting department. sound like they have their own lunch and
> > locker room.
> >
> > Riversides oldest muffler shop is DeAnza 951-684-5424. I would
call
> > them first to find out where to go to have big pipes bent .
DeAnza
> > wont do bigrigs but they are connected ,honest and helpfull.
> >
> > AZ bus is 3 miles from you and they are a BlueBird dealer. AZ=
951-
> > 781-7188.
> >
> > Prevost has a service facility ( MiraLoma, aprox 8 miles)951-360-
2550
> >
> > Colton truck supply is 4 miles from you their number is 909 888-
8300.
> >
> > I'm close by 951-830-5997
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> >
> >
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Greg,
Be sure to have a lot of beer on hand...Rob and Curt are heading your way.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Gregory OConnor <"Gregoryoc@aol.com"> wrote:

I think they get forum business because forum members who went there

are too polite to be truthful. I dont have an honest opinion of

their service because so far any thing I cant fix RobR and CurtS did

the repair for beer. I did notice that the whole organization is set

up in mini corporate names and they make it a point to let you know

that. Therefor you dont benifit from the great resource the Custom

Coach builders (what ever name they use) have.



I will be around on Monday after an early demolition job if you need

help running parts or the like. (I dont drink beer, just diet pepsi)

DeAnza will steer you local and right.



GregoryO'Connor

951-830-5997



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson

wrote:

>

> You're right ... they have a separate BB service facility (at the

> front of their property) and the crew doesn't much interface with

the

> rest of CCW. The only apparent interaction occurs when the "roach

> coach" arrives at break time...

>

> I'm also suffering from a service manager who's been on the job

here

> for about a week... so I don't think he's as fully aware of

> opportunities as he should be.

>

> I've found that Dynaflex, located in Commerce, CA, is a

manufacturer

> of heavy duty mufflers and accessories (Colton Truck Supply lists

> them as one of their suppliers) and they have an extensive

catalog --

> give them the measurements and they have the components. It looks

to

> me as if CCW could just pull the muffler, measure it up, and

order

> the necessary pieces from DynaFlex (or through CTS).

>

> I overheard the service manager and he kept asking about "blue

bird

> mufflers" and getting "no don't have it" ... I think he may have

been

> going about the process in the wrong way. I plan to discuss this

with

> him on Monday morning.

>

> (I was offline for several days due to a computer glitch that I

> finally solved. Dumb Verizon software was giving me an incorrect

> error message that led me astray for awhile. Now that I'm online,

I'm

> beginning to find a considerable number of potential

opportunities.)

>

> I also note that in the BB section waiting room, there is a bus

> industry magazine that reproduced a CCW press release discussion

how

> they converted a bunch of transit busses from ground level to

rooftop

> exhaust systems. I can't imagine that CCW doesn't have the

capability

> onsite to bend up some exhaust pipe.... <sigh>

>

> Macy was in Ft Valley this week, and is expected to be "in" on

Monday

> -- I think I'll have a word or two with him as well...

>

> While the CCW folks have been decent to me, they sure could use a

> dump station on their facility...

>

> Pete Masterson

> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

> aeonix1@...

> On the road at CCW in Riverside, CA

>

>

>

> On May 31, 2008, at 10:01 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

>

> > I cant see why it would take that long for The CCW RV guys to fix

> > it. they may not be consulting the guys in the custom coach

> > fabricting department. sound like they have their own lunch and

> > locker room.

> >

> > Riversides oldest muffler shop is DeAnza 951-684-5424. I would

call

> > them first to find out where to go to have big pipes bent .

DeAnza

> > wont do bigrigs but they are connected ,honest and helpfull.

> >

> > AZ bus is 3 miles from you and they are a BlueBird dealer. AZ=

951-

> > 781-7188.

> >

> > Prevost has a service facility ( MiraLoma, aprox 8 miles)951-360-

2550

> >

> > Colton truck supply is 4 miles from you their number is 909 888-

8300.

> >

> > I'm close by 951-830-5997

> >

> > GregoryO'Connor

> > 94ptRomolandCa

> >

> >

> >

>

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Leroy Eckert]

I can personally second the integrity of DeAnza. I used them for twenty years for exhaust installations, custom and restoration. Never on a semi or bus.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

Curt Sprenger wrote:

Greg,
Be sure to have a lot of beer on hand...Rob and Curt are heading your way.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Gregory OConnor <"Gregoryoc@aol.com"> wrote:

I think they get forum business because forum members who went there
are too polite to be truthful. I dont have an honest opinion of
their service because so far any thing I cant fix RobR and CurtS did
the repair for beer. I did notice that the whole organization is set
up in mini corporate names and they make it a point to let you know
that. Therefor you dont benifit from the great resource the Custom
Coach builders (what ever name they use) have.

I will be around on Monday after an early demolition job if you need
help running parts or the like. (I dont drink beer, just diet pepsi)
DeAnza will steer you local and right.

GregoryO'Connor
951-830-5997

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> You're right ... they have a separate BB service facility (at the
> front of their property) and the crew doesn't much interface with
the
> rest of CCW. The only apparent interaction occurs when the "roach
> coach" arrives at break time...
>
> I'm also suffering from a service manager who's been on the job
here
> for about a week... so I don't think he's as fully aware of
> opportunities as he should be.
>
> I've found that Dynaflex, located in Commerce, CA, is a
manufacturer
> of heavy duty mufflers and accessories (Colton Truck Supply lists
> them as one of their suppliers) and they have an extensive
catalog --
> give them the measurements and they have the components. It looks
to
> me as if CCW could just pull
the muffler, measure it up, and
order
> the necessary pieces from DynaFlex (or through CTS).
>
> I overheard the service manager and he kept asking about "blue
bird
> mufflers" and getting "no don't have it" ... I think he may have
been
> going about the process in the wrong way. I plan to discuss this
with
> him on Monday morning.
>
> (I was offline for several days due to a computer glitch that I
> finally solved. Dumb Verizon software was giving me an incorrect
> error message that led me astray for awhile. Now that I'm online,
I'm
> beginning to find a considerable number of potential
opportunities.)
>
> I also note that in the BB section waiting room, there is a bus
> industry magazine that reproduced a CCW press release discussion
how
> they converted a bunch of transit busses from ground level to

rooftop
> exhaust systems. I can't imagine that CCW doesn't have the
capability
> onsite to bend up some exhaust pipe.... <sigh>
>
> Macy was in Ft Valley this week, and is expected to be "in" on
Monday
> -- I think I'll have a word or two with him as well...
>
> While the CCW folks have been decent to me, they sure could use a
> dump station on their facility...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at CCW in Riverside, CA
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2008, at 10:01 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > I cant see why it would take that long for The CCW RV guys to fix
> > it. they may not be consulting the guys in the custom coach
> > fabricting department. sound like they have their own lunch and
> > locker room.
> >
> >
Riversides oldest muffler shop is DeAnza 951-684-5424. I would
call
> > them first to find out where to go to have big pipes bent .
DeAnza
> > wont do bigrigs but they are connected ,honest and helpfull.
> >
> > AZ bus is 3 miles from you and they are a BlueBird dealer. AZ=
951-
> > 781-7188.
> >
> > Prevost has a service facility ( MiraLoma, aprox 8 miles)951-360-
2550
> >
> > Colton truck supply is 4 miles from you their number is 909 888-
8300.
> >
> > I'm close by 951-830-5997
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> >
> >
>

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim
Hills, CA

[pgchd]

Have the new service manager call "Earl Davis" in parts at fort
valley. I had my system done last year, Earl will give him the
"correct parts info". The muffler, tip,old "flex pipe", pyrometer, and
clamps are stock items. However, that "U pipe" is custom order 3-4
weeks and custom fabrication. Also the flex pipe was replaced with a
new upgraded "ball and socket" design pipe,better item....... If the
mechanics need install tips have them call "Wendell" who is over in
the bluebird bus side now. He will usually help them by phone. no big
deal for them, they were done in 3-4 hours . I am at the nest now and
just left Earl's office with some parts! :-)
Pete, Donna, and Lucky Bear Chin
95 42' greater Daytona Beach Area.








--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> The CCW guys are pretty good. CCW has hired several folks with
> significant RV experience and they're learning about Blue Birds very
> quickly. When they looked over the muffler installation, they went on
> the phone to Ft Valley to get info on the installation, so they have
> a pretty good idea what's required.
>
> The only problem is finding a replacement.
>
> Worst case, I'll have to have the new one shipped to my home, then
> take the bus and muffler to a shop in the Bay Area to have the work
> done. (I don't have 2 people nor do I have a strong teenager.) I can
> see that the installation will be tough to do...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at CCW in Riverside
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2008, at 6:47 PM, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> > Pete, I don't know of a source, but Ron Marabito purchased a
> > muffler about 6 months ago. It IS a job and takes 2+ people. Or- a
> > strong teenager. Bim Burt, Ron and myself struggled to get the new
> > one aligned with the new flex piping. There is a lot more to it
> > then just a quick removal. The muffler has supports inside the
> > cavity that houses the muffler. Also, the flex pipe by the turbo
> > has a sender located in the rear of that pipe. You can't see that
> > from the rear. Tell the guys to go slow, lot's of items to be aware
> > of.
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston, Montana
> >
> >
> >
> > Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler
> > Florence" on AOL Food.
> >
>

[Pete Masterson]

Appreciate the info... they were able to locate a muffler that will
be here tomorrow. The flex pipe, etc. aren't bad. The muffler tip
allows rain to fall into the muffler, and it rusted out. The stuff
further down seems to be ok.

They're going to pull out the old muffler this afternoon... so we'll
see how it all is.

Thanks..

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at CCW, Riverside, CA



On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:42 AM, pgchd wrote:

> Have the new service manager call "Earl Davis" in parts at fort
> valley. I had my system done last year, Earl will give him the
> "correct parts info". The muffler, tip,old "flex pipe", pyrometer, and
> clamps are stock items. However, that "U pipe" is custom order 3-4
> weeks and custom fabrication. Also the flex pipe was replaced with a
> new upgraded "ball and socket" design pipe,better item....... If the
> mechanics need install tips have them call "Wendell" who is over in
> the bluebird bus side now. He will usually help them by phone. no big
> deal for them, they were done in 3-4 hours . I am at the nest now and
> just left Earl's office with some parts! :-)
> Pete, Donna, and Lucky Bear Chin
> 95 42' greater Daytona Beach Area.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
>>
>> The CCW guys are pretty good. CCW has hired several folks with
>> significant RV experience and they're learning about Blue Birds very
>> quickly. When they looked over the muffler installation, they went on
>> the phone to Ft Valley to get info on the installation, so they have
>> a pretty good idea what's required.
>>
>> The only problem is finding a replacement.
>>
>> Worst case, I'll have to have the new one shipped to my home, then
>> take the bus and muffler to a shop in the Bay Area to have the work
>> done. (I don't have 2 people nor do I have a strong teenager.) I can
>> see that the installation will be tough to do...
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@...
>> On the road at CCW in Riverside
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 31, 2008, at 6:47 PM, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>>
>>> Pete, I don't know of a source, but Ron Marabito purchased a
>>> muffler about 6 months ago. It IS a job and takes 2+ people. Or- a
>>> strong teenager. Bim Burt, Ron and myself struggled to get the new
>>> one aligned with the new flex piping. There is a lot more to it
>>> then just a quick removal. The muffler has supports inside the
>>> cavity that houses the muffler. Also, the flex pipe by the turbo
>>> has a sender located in the rear of that pipe. You can't see that
>>> from the rear. Tell the guys to go slow, lot's of items to be aware
>>> of.
>>>
>>> Ernie Ekberg
>>> 83PT40
>>> Livingston, Montana
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler
>>> Florence" on AOL Food.
>>>
>>
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