Spare Tire Crane?
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11-12-2007, 13:15
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Spare Tire Crane?
Hi Kurt: I have a tire crane that was on my coach when I bought it...The crane
fastens to the cargo rack that runs around the perimeter of the top of the coach.The crane folds down and is powered by a 12 VDC motor winch. I took it and the spare off and have stored the crane all these years. The spare I gave to a trucker friend. You can have the crane for free if you want it...it is probably too bulky to ship. It will need to be sandblasted and painted. I have never had any tire problems in the 18 years I have driven Wanderlodge motorhomes. Robert 1987 PT40 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-12-2007, 13:20
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Spare Tire Crane?
If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be difficult
to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might consider putting one on the roof. On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons than a spare > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and tons of other > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the thing. I > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. Most folks > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone has one. lol > > bumpersbird > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order. > Any help would be great. > > Kurt Horvath > 95 PT-42 > 10ACe > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > Dahlonega, GA > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-12-2007, 13:43
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Spare Tire Crane?
Possibly.
My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or for bad. First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine)bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have a brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need a spare. Check it out. $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600 Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway. Rob Robinson thought my travels would take me some place where it would be difficult to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might consider putting one on the roof. On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons than a spare > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and tons of other > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the thing. I > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. Most folks > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone has one. lol > > bumpersbird > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order. > Any help would be great. > > Kurt Horvath > 95 PT-42 > 10ACe > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > Dahlonega, GA > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" Dahlonega, GA --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-12-2007, 13:57
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That is a very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for a
new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time you would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have figured away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but on top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get into the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel over the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're cutting it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike. John Heckman central Pa 1973 FC > > Possibly. > My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or for bad. > First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine) bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have a brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need a spare. Check it out. > $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600 > Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway. > > Rob Robinson If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be difficult > to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might consider putting > one on the roof. > > On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert > > > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons than a spare > > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and tons of other > > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the thing. I > > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. Most folks > > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone has one. lol > > > > bumpersbird Does > > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a > > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to > > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But > > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order. > > Any help would be great. > > > > Kurt Horvath > > 95 PT-42 > > 10ACe > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > > it now. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > Dahlonega, GA > > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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11-12-2007, 14:08
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Whooa Whooa, that's what I am saying. $400 buys a lot of beer!, another type of
fuel. lol bubblerboy64 very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for a new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time you would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have figured away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but on top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get into the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel over the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're cutting it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike. John Heckman central Pa 1973 FC > > Possibly. > My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or for bad. > First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine) bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have a brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need a spare. Check it out. > $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600 > Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway. > > Rob Robinson If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be difficult > to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might consider putting > one on the roof. > > On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert > > > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons than a spare > > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and tons of other > > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the thing. I > > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. Most folks > > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone has one. lol > > > > bumpersbird Does > > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a > > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to > > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But > > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order. > > Any help would be great. > > > > Kurt Horvath > > 95 PT-42 > > 10ACe > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try > > it now. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > Dahlonega, GA > > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" Dahlonega, GA --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-12-2007, 15:37
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote: > > That is a very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for a > new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time you > would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have figured > away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but on > top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get into > the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel over > the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're cutting > it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike. > > John Heckman > central Pa > 1973 FC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly. > > My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a > major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or for > bad. > > First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine) > bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you > spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by > $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have a > brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need a > spare. Check it out. > > $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600 > > Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare > hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway. > > > > Rob Robinson > If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be > difficult > > to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might > consider putting > > one on the roof. > > > > On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert > > > > > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons > than a spare > > > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and > tons of other > > > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the > thing. I > > > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. > Most folks > > > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, everyone > has one. lol > > > > > > bumpersbird > Does > > > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a > > > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip > to > > > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in > time. But > > > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in > order. > > > Any help would be great. > > > > > > Kurt Horvath > > > 95 PT-42 > > > 10ACe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo > Mobile. Try > > > it now. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > 94 WLWB > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > --------------------------------- > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your > homepage. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >How about just having the crane in the back to lift to assist our graying generation owners up to the top of there coaches sort of like having an elevator. But really how many people do use the top of there coaches? All that extra weight up there must cause some extra imbalance to the coach and what about those low freeway overpasses? I Think it would be just easier to use what space you have on board and forget the roof. I also wonder how people have had a close call with trying to stow away extra junk and had a close call with falling over the side? Maybe that's why that goats ralling is up there? Jon |
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11-13-2007, 01:44
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Jon, That's another good point. While I was taking the ole spare off
the roof I also took that big bod off as well. I was up there doing repairs to the fans and replacing the rear air and I decided that I really had no business being up there any more then absolutely necessary. John Heckman central Pa 1973 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > wrote: > > > > That is a very good point Leroy. A guy isn't going to spring for a > > new tire for a spare so the chances are good that about the time > you > > would need it might be totally worthless. If I could have figured > > away to carry one under the coach I would have considered it but on > > top just doesn't make sense for me. Now if you really want get > into > > the figurin: Figure what that extra weight costs you in fuel over > > the time its on the roof. Well, I take that back. If you're cutting > > it that close you better forget that "Bus" and ride a bike. > > > > John Heckman > > central Pa > > 1973 FC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly. > > > My simple approach to tires on the coach is this. Tires are a > > major expense on a coach. This is how I approach it, for good or > for > > bad. > > > First determine what your major vise is. It may be beer(mine) > > bottled water, cigars, coffee, candy etc. No matter the vise, you > > spend more than $2.00 per day on it. Just cut the vise spending by > > $2.00 day, put the cash in the bus safe and after 5 years you have > a > > brand new set of tires. It will not be painful and you do not need > a > > spare. Check it out. > > > $2.00x30x12=$720x5=$3600 > > > Change tires every five years. There is no guarantee that spare > > hanging on the roof in the sun for 5 years is worth a damn anyway. > > > > > > Rob Robinson > > If I thought my travels would take me some place where it would be > > difficult > > > to find a new tire (Mexico or Alaska come to mind) I might > > consider putting > > > one on the roof. > > > > > > On 12/11/2007, Leroy Eckert > > > > > > > > Personally, I don't need the extra weight for more reasons > > than a spare > > > > tire. If you have a spare, you need a 20,000 pound jack and > > tons of other > > > > crap also unless you intend to call road service to change the > > thing. I > > > > ain't changing a tire using the bus jacks. Just my opinion. > > Most folks > > > > ignore my opinion because opinions are like, you know, > everyone > > has one. lol > > > > > > > > bumpersbird > > Does > > > > anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a > > > > spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last > trip > > to > > > > Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in > > time. But > > > > it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is > in > > order. > > > > Any help would be great. > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath > > > > 95 PT-42 > > > > 10ACe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo > > Mobile. Try > > > > it now. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > > > 94 WLWB > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your > > homepage. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >How about just having the crane in the back to lift to assist our > graying generation owners up to the top of there coaches sort of like > having an elevator. > > But really how many people do use the top of there coaches? All > that extra weight up there must cause some extra imbalance to the > coach and what about those low freeway overpasses? I Think it would > be just easier to use what space you have on board and forget the > roof. I also wonder how people have had a close call with trying to > stow away extra junk and had a close call with falling over the side? > Maybe that's why that goats ralling is up there? > > Jon > |
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11-13-2007, 04:07
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Spare Tire Crane?
Kurt,
Check at some of the boating supply stores they have small cranes for lifting small boats and dingy's aboard larger boats. Camping World may have them. Howard T., Sowega, 86 PT40 ----- Original Message ----- From: bumpersbird To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Spare Tire Crane? Does anybody out there know anything about roof mounted cranes for a spare tire? I've heard of them but never seen one. My last trip to Texas I lost a tag tire to a balloned side wall. Caught it in time. But it did pop the next morning. So I've decided that a spare is in order. Any help would be great. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10ACe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release Date: 11/9/2007 9:26 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-13-2007, 07:46
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Spare Tire Crane?
Well I am overwhelmed by the response from my last post.
I'd like to address some of the responses. I think launching a tire off the roof, I could see me doing that in my younger days, but it is a little reckless to say the least, not to mention the fact that there is never a Mexican around when you need one, kind of like cops. I think that aerodynamically a tire on the roof would .well, what the H there's nothing aerodynamic about a Bird. Put enough power behind anything and you can make it fly. Lowering with a rope tied around my hips ala rock climber style, I don't think the old artificial hip is up to that. In the wilds of East Texas there were no tires in 12 X 22.5 to be had any where. I had to limp up 59 to I- 30 from I-20 90 miles with a ballooned sidewall and a trailer on three wheels PRICELESS. I have the FMCA Platinum roadside assistance thru Coach-Net so changing the tire is their problem, but you have to have a tire mounted on a rim. I've had several vices for nearly all my life and they are already budgeted into my lifestyle so cutting one of them out is clearly not likely to happen. I agree that the less time spent on the roof is a good plan but there is no other place to place a spare. I have a brand new Goodyear on a brush aluminum rim. It was a mere $1039.69 I don't plan on ever getting whipped like that again. It will make a great spare for the next five years. Just as soon as Michelin starts making my tires again I'll replace the Goodyear and the brushed aluminum rim. I'm also considering two complete Dexter axles for the trailer. Try and find one anywhere that will fit your application and I'll kiss your, you know what at the next RATS. I've lost a hub every year for the last five years, not to mention the 12 Goodyear Marathon tires since 1995. My trailer was stuck in Texarkana for three weeks and four days with all my tools in it. Dexter builds axels on order only and the fact that no two trailer companies use the same specs. This means no income for that time. Like being on strike, you never make up for that loss. Two Dexter axles, the spare and rim, a crane $2500.00, I lost that the first week home without my rig! So thanks for all the great advice and I'll be touch with the folks with cranes shortly. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 Indulgance 10AC |
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11-13-2007, 12:26
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Spare Tire Crane?
Kurt
My PO did not carry a spare either my blow out only cost me $800.00 $495 for a Firestone 12R22.5 $295 for mounting on my wheel. Gouging the face of my wheel pricelless. The road call itself paid for thru Progressive Roadside. When I put the new tires on the next day bought 9 and a reconditioned steel wheel. My spare sits in my Lt front baggage bay. I respect everyone's opinion on this subject but I will always carry a spare. Hugh & Lexie Turner 84 Pt40 "OUR DREAM" Thomaston GA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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