M&G brake system
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08-21-2006, 06:26
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M&G brake system
Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach
air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick disconnect installed). Gardner 78FC33 |
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08-21-2006, 06:46
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I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine except I
did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive this week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly. Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif. Gardner Yeaw wrote: > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > disconnect installed). > > Gardner > 78FC33 > > |
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08-21-2006, 06:48
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It is an excellent system but call M&G to see if it can be fit on your
toad in a lot of cases it can not and be carefull where you tie into your air system Stephen --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw" wrote: > > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > disconnect installed). > > Gardner > 78FC33 > |
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08-21-2006, 07:22
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If you want info on M&G contact Randy Dupree
On 21/08/06, Gardner Yeaw > > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > disconnect installed). > > Gardner > 78FC33 > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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08-21-2006, 07:28
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I used a SMI silent partner on a PT-40/Honda CRV combination, and
like it. Like Curt I didn't want any surprises in my air brake system. One thing that I had to do, probably because the coach is steel was move the both send and receive antennas to the rear of the coach to get enough reception to activate the braking system. There isn't enough wire with the SMI and fishing it back there would be a PIA job, but I found enough extra unused wires to get it there. The system has enough adjustment through the G Force dial that the toad doesn't brake every time you brake the coach. I've got mine set so it only comes in moderate to panic stops, like when the old- timer pulled out of the bar in northern Wisconsin yesterday on HWY #8! If I can flatten the learning curve let me know Steve Quandt 1993- PT40 Iron Mountain, MI Currently in Rochester, MN --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger > > I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine except I > did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick > disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive this > week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly. > > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif. > > > > Gardner Yeaw wrote: > > > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach > > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You > > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and > > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty > > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to > > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > > disconnect installed). > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > > > > > |
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08-21-2006, 07:48
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote: > > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > disconnect installed). > > Gardner > 78FC33 >Gardner, I have one of the M & G systems on my 2002 GMC Denali that I used to pull behind my 99 LXi-43. The device worked very well, I was able to install it into the truck myself, but did have to get my chassis shop to hook up the airline. Someone noticed that I had used a female end on the MH, and a male end on the truck, and suggested that I should have used a female end on the truck too, to prevent moisture, dust, etc from getting into the line. I made that change, and it seemed to work pretty well. The brakes on a 99 were still drum, so stopping distances were still not real good, but I could certainly tell the M & G system was working. George McMahan, Lubbock, Texas 06 450LXi |
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08-21-2006, 09:11
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I have used M&G for about 6 years over about 90k miles. Has worked perfectly.
Presently at a BB Mini-rally. Paul showed up in Maine also! Mike '97 BMC 40' Michael Brody, CEO Capital Progress, Inc. P.O. Box 281 Dresher, PA 19025 capitalprogress.com (V) 215-572-0663 (F) 215-572-6992 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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08-21-2006, 09:13
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M&G brake system
Hi folks:
I don't have a dog in this hunt and do not have a plumbing diagram of my bus air system. Now you got me wondering. I pull a trailer with electric brakes. My bus was factory fitted with a quick disconnect in roadside bay #3 , to be used for blowing up the tires. The pilot air gauge has two pointers, red and green, indicating redundant systems. Dumb question? If the quick disconnect in bay #3 failed would I lose all air to the brakes or is there a check valve somewhere that would prevent the event? If not, I may consider changing the quick disconnect to an manual shutoff valve. Thanks for your input. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB40 Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: smquandt To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:28 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: M&G brake system I used a SMI silent partner on a PT-40/Honda CRV combination, and like it. Like Curt I didn't want any surprises in my air brake system. One thing that I had to do, probably because the coach is steel was move the both send and receive antennas to the rear of the coach to get enough reception to activate the braking system. There isn't enough wire with the SMI and fishing it back there would be a PIA job, but I found enough extra unused wires to get it there. The system has enough adjustment through the G Force dial that the toad doesn't brake every time you brake the coach. I've got mine set so it only comes in moderate to panic stops, like when the old- timer pulled out of the bar in northern Wisconsin yesterday on HWY #8! If I can flatten the learning curve let me know Steve Quandt 1993- PT40 Iron Mountain, MI Currently in Rochester, MN --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger > > I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine except I > did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick > disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive this > week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly. > > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif. > > > > Gardner Yeaw wrote: > > > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach > > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You > > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and > > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty > > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to > > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > > disconnect installed). > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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08-21-2006, 10:43
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M&G brake system
M & G is good,
It is a personal choice, if you are comfortable with adding one more connection to the many other brake line connections already in the system. George: I believe the toad line is male, because the M&G cylinder needs to be open to outside air (vent) when not in use. http://www.m-gengineering.com/install.html read item #8. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gmktm450" wrote: > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw" > wrote: > > > > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the > coach > > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. > You > > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on > and > > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a > pretty > > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air > hose to > > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > > disconnect installed). > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > >Gardner, I have one of the M & G systems on my 2002 GMC Denali that > I used to pull behind my 99 LXi-43. The device worked very well, I > was able to install it into the truck myself, but did have to get my > chassis shop to hook up the airline. Someone noticed that I had used > a female end on the MH, and a male end on the truck, and suggested > that I should have used a female end on the truck too, to prevent > moisture, dust, etc from getting into the line. I made that change, > and it seemed to work pretty well. The brakes on a 99 were still > drum, so stopping distances were still not real good, but I could > certainly tell the M & G system was working. > George McMahan, Lubbock, Texas 06 450LXi > |
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08-21-2006, 11:16
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M&G brake system
Curt and Gardner,
I have used the SMI Silent partner on two vehicles over three years. It work great and you have an indicator in the cockpit that it is working (or disconnected). The brakes make a big difference. Tom McCarthy '95 PT42 Poway, CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger > > I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine except I > did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick > disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive this > week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly. > > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif. > > > > Gardner Yeaw wrote: > > > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach > > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You > > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and > > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty > > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable > > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to > > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick > > disconnect installed). > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > > > > > |
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