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Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach
air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You
unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and
then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty
good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to
the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
disconnect installed).

Gardner
78FC33

I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine except I
did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick
disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive this
week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Gardner Yeaw wrote:

> Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach
> air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You
> unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and
> then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty
> good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
> between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to
> the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> disconnect installed).
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
>

It is an excellent system but call M&G to see if it can be fit on your
toad in a lot of cases it can not
and be carefull where you tie into your air system
Stephen


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach
> air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You
> unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and
> then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty
> good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
> between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to
> the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> disconnect installed).
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>

If you want info on M&G contact Randy Dupree

On 21/08/06, Gardner Yeaw wrote:
>
> Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the coach
> air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad. You
> unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on and
> then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a pretty
> good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
> between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air hose to
> the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> disconnect installed).
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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I used a SMI silent partner on a PT-40/Honda CRV combination, and
like it. Like Curt I didn't want any surprises in my air brake
system. One thing that I had to do, probably because the coach is
steel was move the both send and receive antennas to the rear of the
coach to get enough reception to activate the braking system. There
isn't enough wire with the SMI and fishing it back there would be a
PIA job, but I found enough extra unused wires to get it there.

The system has enough adjustment through the G Force dial that the
toad doesn't brake every time you brake the coach. I've got mine
set so it only comes in moderate to panic stops, like when the old-
timer pulled out of the bar in northern Wisconsin yesterday on HWY
#8! If I can flatten the learning curve let me know

Steve Quandt
1993- PT40
Iron Mountain, MI
Currently in Rochester, MN



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine
except I
> did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick
> disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive
this
> week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly.
>
> Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Gardner Yeaw wrote:
>
> > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the
coach
> > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad.
You
> > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter
on and
> > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a
pretty
> > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
> > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air
hose to
> > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> > disconnect installed).
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> >
>

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the
coach
> air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad.
You
> unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter on
and
> then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a
pretty
> good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
> between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air
hose to
> the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> disconnect installed).
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>Gardner, I have one of the M & G systems on my 2002 GMC Denali that
I used to pull behind my 99 LXi-43. The device worked very well, I
was able to install it into the truck myself, but did have to get my
chassis shop to hook up the airline. Someone noticed that I had used
a female end on the MH, and a male end on the truck, and suggested
that I should have used a female end on the truck too, to prevent
moisture, dust, etc from getting into the line. I made that change,
and it seemed to work pretty well. The brakes on a 99 were still
drum, so stopping distances were still not real good, but I could
certainly tell the M & G system was working.
George McMahan, Lubbock, Texas 06 450LXi

I have used M&G for about 6 years over about 90k miles. Has worked perfectly.

Presently at a BB Mini-rally. Paul showed up in Maine also!

Mike
'97 BMC 40'

Michael Brody, CEO
Capital Progress, Inc.
P.O. Box 281
Dresher, PA 19025
capitalprogress.com
(V) 215-572-0663
(F) 215-572-6992


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Hi folks:
I don't have a dog in this hunt and do not have a plumbing diagram of my bus air
system. Now you got me wondering. I pull a trailer with electric brakes. My
bus was factory fitted with a quick disconnect in roadside bay #3 , to be used
for blowing up the tires. The pilot air gauge has two pointers, red and green,
indicating redundant systems. Dumb question? If the quick disconnect in bay #3
failed would I lose all air to the brakes or is there a check valve somewhere
that would prevent the event? If not, I may consider changing the quick
disconnect to an manual shutoff valve.

Thanks for your input.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB40
Niceville, FL






----- Original Message -----
From: smquandt
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: M&G brake system


I used a SMI silent partner on a PT-40/Honda CRV combination, and
like it. Like Curt I didn't want any surprises in my air brake
system. One thing that I had to do, probably because the coach is
steel was move the both send and receive antennas to the rear of the
coach to get enough reception to activate the braking system. There
isn't enough wire with the SMI and fishing it back there would be a
PIA job, but I found enough extra unused wires to get it there.

The system has enough adjustment through the G Force dial that the
toad doesn't brake every time you brake the coach. I've got mine
set so it only comes in moderate to panic stops, like when the old-
timer pulled out of the bar in northern Wisconsin yesterday on HWY
#8! If I can flatten the learning curve let me know

Steve Quandt
1993- PT40
Iron Mountain, MI
Currently in Rochester, MN

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine
except I
> did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick
> disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive
this
> week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly.
>
> Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Gardner Yeaw wrote:
>
> > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the
coach
> > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad.
You
> > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter
on and
> > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a
pretty
> > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
> > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air
hose to
> > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> > disconnect installed).
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> >
>





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M & G is good,
It is a personal choice, if you are comfortable with
adding one more connection to the many other brake line
connections already in the system.

George:
I believe the toad line is male, because the M&G
cylinder needs to be open to outside air (vent) when not in use.
http://www.m-gengineering.com/install.html
read item #8.

Bill 88 FC Michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gmktm450"
wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the
> coach
> > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad.
> You
> > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter
on
> and
> > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a
> pretty
> > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not
portable
> > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air
> hose to
> > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> > disconnect installed).
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >Gardner, I have one of the M & G systems on my 2002 GMC Denali
that
> I used to pull behind my 99 LXi-43. The device worked very well, I
> was able to install it into the truck myself, but did have to get
my
> chassis shop to hook up the airline. Someone noticed that I had
used
> a female end on the MH, and a male end on the truck, and suggested
> that I should have used a female end on the truck too, to prevent
> moisture, dust, etc from getting into the line. I made that
change,
> and it seemed to work pretty well. The brakes on a 99 were still
> drum, so stopping distances were still not real good, but I could
> certainly tell the M & G system was working.
> George McMahan, Lubbock, Texas 06 450LXi
>

Curt and Gardner,

I have used the SMI Silent partner on two vehicles over three
years. It work great and you have an indicator in the cockpit that
it is working (or disconnected). The brakes make a big difference.

Tom McCarthy
'95 PT42
Poway, CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
>
> I looked at the M&G product and SMI products. M&G seemed fine
except I
> did not want the possibility of an air leak by tapping and quick
> disconnect. I went with the SMI Silent Partner, it should arrive
this
> week. I'll be looking for installation guidance shortly.
>
> Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Gardner Yeaw wrote:
>
> > Has anyone used the M&G toad braking system? It connects to the
coach
> > air brake system and provides proportional braking on the toad.
You
> > unbolt the master cylinder in the toad and put the M&G adapter
on and
> > then remount the master cylinder to the adapter. It looks like a
pretty
> > good system and costs less than most other devices. (not portable
> > between cars, however). Once installed you just connect the air
hose to
> > the coach (the coach air system needs to be tapped and a qick
> > disconnect installed).
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> >
>