Hot skin test: a final posting

[erniecarpet@...]

In a message dated 9/5/2008 6:04:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, bobandarlene@... writes:

Hey Ralph,
Don't listen to those who don't know squat!!!
I value your knowledge more than most of the poster on this site.
Will see you in Nov. and have you do some work on our bus.
I KNOW you have more knowledge than the previous posters on this
subject.

Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Branson, Mo (with 60 days of workcamping left so I can get Ralph's
expertise to work on my bus)
> Everyone:

BRAVO!!!!

Ralph has gotten me out of trouble sooooooo many times I cannot count.

Years ago, my 35 would not start. Ralph said the problem was in the cannon plugs. I said- yea, right. He took one apart and the damn thing started.

So for those that just like to post without any substance behind your post- don't post.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Tx- Livingston, Mt
Wanderlodgeforum.org, owner

---

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[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Everyone:

The hot skin on an RV is very serious business, please take it seriously
because people have literally died from this problem. I know people who
have grabbed the handle on the side of RV's put their left foot on the
metal step and the right foot in just a trace of water puddled form rain
and has had the right heel literally blown off. This is documented fact not
fiction.

Hot skin is a high resistance short, not enough of a short to trip a
breaker but enough of one to cause a tingling if your hands are sweaty and
you touch metal. Ohms will not find this short and the only way to know
which circuit this problem is on is to do a voltage check, period. 9 out of
10 times your Coach is plugged in to shore power and all will be ok with
the 50 amp or 30 amp. This problem will show up if your using an adapter to
a 110 vac shore power source.

I have given this Forum the right way to check for this problem and the
only way that is prescribed and taught to all RV techs the world over in
formal programs for that purpose.

Over the years I have posted things to help the owners to help themselves.
I have spent countless hours going through schools to gain the knowledge to
make a living for my Family with a BSEE degree and then after retiring, I
attended a school strictly for the trouble shooting and repair of RV's and
all the systems used in them.

Self help postings:

This will be my last posting on anything concerning self help to the Forum
nor will I make up any further manuals of "how to's" on Birds as they seem
to cause such scrutiny and deemed to be of no use what so ever. Please get
your Bird checked out and take it to a shop if you like and pay money for a
simple 10 minute check you could have done, as others have suggested. Good luck

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

[Rob Robinson]

What? A little criticism and you quit?

2008/9/5 Ralph L. Fullenwider <"rlf47@swbell.net">

Everyone:

The hot skin on an RV is very serious business, please take it seriously
because people have literally died from this problem. I know people who
have grabbed the handle on the side of RV's put their left foot on the

metal step and the right foot in just a trace of water puddled form rain
and has had the right heel literally blown off. This is documented fact not
fiction.

Hot skin is a high resistance short, not enough of a short to trip a

breaker but enough of one to cause a tingling if your hands are sweaty and
you touch metal. Ohms will not find this short and the only way to know
which circuit this problem is on is to do a voltage check, period. 9 out of

10 times your Coach is plugged in to shore power and all will be ok with
the 50 amp or 30 amp. This problem will show up if your using an adapter to
a 110 vac shore power source.

I have given this Forum the right way to check for this problem and the

only way that is prescribed and taught to all RV techs the world over in
formal programs for that purpose.

Over the years I have posted things to help the owners to help themselves.
I have spent countless hours going through schools to gain the knowledge to

make a living for my Family with a BSEE degree and then after retiring, I
attended a school strictly for the trouble shooting and repair of RV's and
all the systems used in them.

Self help postings:


This will be my last posting on anything concerning self help to the Forum
nor will I make up any further manuals of "how to's" on Birds as they seem
to cause such scrutiny and deemed to be of no use what so ever. Please get

your Bird checked out and take it to a shop if you like and pay money for a
simple 10 minute check you could have done, as others have suggested. Good luck

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson

94 WLWB

[Bob Lawrence]

Hey Ralph,
Don't listen to those who don't know squat!!!
I value your knowledge more than most of the poster on this site.
Will see you in Nov. and have you do some work on our bus.
I KNOW you have more knowledge than the previous posters on this
subject.

Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Branson, Mo (with 60 days of workcamping left so I can get Ralph's
expertise to work on my bus)
> Everyone:
>
> The hot skin on an RV is very serious business, please take it
seriously
> because people have literally died from this problem. I know people
who
> have grabbed the handle on the side of RV's put their left foot on
the
> metal step and the right foot in just a trace of water puddled form
rain
> and has had the right heel literally blown off. This is documented
fact not
> fiction.
>
> Hot skin is a high resistance short, not enough of a short to trip
a
> breaker but enough of one to cause a tingling if your hands are
sweaty and
> you touch metal. Ohms will not find this short and the only way to
know
> which circuit this problem is on is to do a voltage check, period.
9 out of
> 10 times your Coach is plugged in to shore power and all will be ok
with
> the 50 amp or 30 amp. This problem will show up if your using an
adapter to
> a 110 vac shore power source.
>
> I have given this Forum the right way to check for this problem and
the
> only way that is prescribed and taught to all RV techs the world
over in
> formal programs for that purpose.
>
> Over the years I have posted things to help the owners to help
themselves.
> I have spent countless hours going through schools to gain the
knowledge to
> make a living for my Family with a BSEE degree and then after
retiring, I
> attended a school strictly for the trouble shooting and repair of
RV's and
> all the systems used in them.
>
> Self help postings:
>
> This will be my last posting on anything concerning self help to
the Forum
> nor will I make up any further manuals of "how to's" on Birds as
they seem
> to cause such scrutiny and deemed to be of no use what so ever.
Please get
> your Bird checked out and take it to a shop if you like and pay
money for a
> simple 10 minute check you could have done, as others have
suggested. Good luck
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>

[bubblerboy64]

The fellows that get hurt when this type of thing goes down are the
guys like me, just starting out. Don't really understand what has
happened here. I don't need to. Seems unfair that I suffer and
fellows like me suffer because of what is likely personal.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> Hey Ralph,
> Don't listen to those who don't know squat!!!
> I value your knowledge more than most of the poster on this site.
> Will see you in Nov. and have you do some work on our bus.
> I KNOW you have more knowledge than the previous posters on this
> subject.
>
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT36
> Branson, Mo (with 60 days of workcamping left so I can get Ralph's
> expertise to work on my bus)
> > Everyone:
> >
> > The hot skin on an RV is very serious business, please take it
> seriously
> > because people have literally died from this problem. I know
people
> who
> > have grabbed the handle on the side of RV's put their left foot
on
> the
> > metal step and the right foot in just a trace of water puddled
form
> rain
> > and has had the right heel literally blown off. This is
documented
> fact not
> > fiction.
> >
> > Hot skin is a high resistance short, not enough of a short to
trip
> a
> > breaker but enough of one to cause a tingling if your hands are
> sweaty and
> > you touch metal. Ohms will not find this short and the only way
to
> know
> > which circuit this problem is on is to do a voltage check,
period.
> 9 out of
> > 10 times your Coach is plugged in to shore power and all will be
ok
> with
> > the 50 amp or 30 amp. This problem will show up if your using an
> adapter to
> > a 110 vac shore power source.
> >
> > I have given this Forum the right way to check for this problem
and
> the
> > only way that is prescribed and taught to all RV techs the world
> over in
> > formal programs for that purpose.
> >
> > Over the years I have posted things to help the owners to help
> themselves.
> > I have spent countless hours going through schools to gain the
> knowledge to
> > make a living for my Family with a BSEE degree and then after
> retiring, I
> > attended a school strictly for the trouble shooting and repair of
> RV's and
> > all the systems used in them.
> >
> > Self help postings:
> >
> > This will be my last posting on anything concerning self help to
> the Forum
> > nor will I make up any further manuals of "how to's" on Birds as
> they seem
> > to cause such scrutiny and deemed to be of no use what so ever.
> Please get
> > your Bird checked out and take it to a shop if you like and pay
> money for a
> > simple 10 minute check you could have done, as others have
> suggested. Good luck
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> > Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Ralph,

I am saddened by your decision to stop responding and posting to this
site. I for one have read most of what you have posted including the
files, links, and the database. The only place I could get full
blueprints of my coach was from a very gracious and generous Texan,
he speaks very highly of you. As well as others that I have meet and
become friends with. Tech's I know in Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida
all know you and respect your abilities. It is only through the
knowledge
and generous giving of your experience and others am I able to kept
that
puppy going down the road. We will all be poorer without your
participation.

Back in January I had a good Ass Chewing on the old Bird forum over
the new '09 BB, right or wrong, That person expressed his heartfelt
opinion. I had to reach deep down and explain my opinions to him. In
the end we reached a mutual respect for each other's opinion.

In my professional life, I post on other sites such as this one. I
have almost 40 years of experience in my field of work. I learned the
Old School way. I catch hell from the hobbyist and short timers
every other posting. I am RIGHT they are WRONG! If you don't agree,
TOO
BAD! You can't fix stupid. The brevity and impersonal nature of the
Internet. The way we post messages in general is how we fall into
this trap.

I do have the HOT SKIN PROBLEM. I even did an online tutorial on how
to use my Multi-Meter. It didn't really help me, when it comes to
Electricity, I run for help.

I'm coming through your back yard on September 31. Would you be
available to check my coach for this problem?

You may reply to this post or if you prefer call me at 931-625-3893

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
> Everyone:
>
> The hot skin on an RV is very serious business, please take it
seriously
> because people have literally died from this problem. I know people
who
> have grabbed the handle on the side of RV's put their left foot on
the
> metal step and the right foot in just a trace of water puddled form
rain
> and has had the right heel literally blown off. This is documented
fact not
> fiction.
>
> Hot skin is a high resistance short, not enough of a short to trip
a
> breaker but enough of one to cause a tingling if your hands are
sweaty and
> you touch metal. Ohms will not find this short and the only way to
know
> which circuit this problem is on is to do a voltage check, period.
9 out of
> 10 times your Coach is plugged in to shore power and all will be ok
with
> the 50 amp or 30 amp. This problem will show up if your using an
adapter to
> a 110 vac shore power source.
>
> I have given this Forum the right way to check for this problem and
the
> only way that is prescribed and taught to all RV techs the world
over in
> formal programs for that purpose.
>
> Over the years I have posted things to help the owners to help
themselves.
> I have spent countless hours going through schools to gain the
knowledge to
> make a living for my Family with a BSEE degree and then after
retiring, I
> attended a school strictly for the trouble shooting and repair of
RV's and
> all the systems used in them.
>
> Self help postings:
>
> This will be my last posting on anything concerning self help to
the Forum
> nor will I make up any further manuals of "how to's" on Birds as
they seem
> to cause such scrutiny and deemed to be of no use what so ever.
Please get
> your Bird checked out and take it to a shop if you like and pay
money for a
> simple 10 minute check you could have done, as others have
suggested. Good luck
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

What the hell is going on???? I leave Vegas for Chicago, tune in
today to the Forum and Ralph is quitting???? Ralph..SAY IT ISN'T
SO!!!!
dON'T KNOW WHat happened but this site sure has benefitted from your
expertise...........YOU have helped me with the 90SP36 many times and
I am very thankful for YOU being there. Hang in there man!!!
VR,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36 in Chicago











--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 9/5/2008 6:04:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> bobandarlene@... writes:
>
> Hey Ralph,
> Don't listen to those who don't know squat!!!
> I value your knowledge more than most of the poster on this site.
> Will see you in Nov. and have you do some work on our bus.
> I KNOW you have more knowledge than the previous posters on this
> subject.
>
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT36
> Branson, Mo (with 60 days of workcamping left so I can get Ralph's
> expertise to work on my bus)
> > Everyone:
>
>
> BRAVO!!!!
> Ralph has gotten me out of trouble sooooooo many times I cannot
count.
> Years ago, my 35 would not start. Ralph said the problem was in the
cannon
> plugs. I said- yea, right. He took one apart and the damn thing
started.
> So for those that just like to post without any substance behind
your post-
> don't post.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Tx- Livingston, Mt
> Wanderlodgeforum.org, owner
>
>
>
>
> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new
fashion blog,
> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aol...0000000014)
>