Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .

[Leroy Eckert]

I posted all the part numbers I have for an 8v92. Did you get them. 60s may be different. Maybe Masterson knows. My manual says 20 quarts if the 60S has the same size reservoir. Thanks for the difference explanation. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:09 AM Got a message yesterday from Jessie on my answering machine. It takes three filters. The 95 BB with an 8V-92 uses 10w30, the 95 Bird with a series 60 uses HD32. He didn't give an explanation. Also there is a Parker filter on the95 PT-42 with the series 60.It is located on the roadside between the radiators and the tag axle. I haven't lay hands on it yet. I'm reasonably sure it's never been replaced. Anybody have a part number ? Anybody know the capacity of the hydraulic system ? I'll have to call back and get a part # for the Parker Filter & pricing, along with fluid capacity and perhaps an explanation why they used different oils in the coaches with different motors. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB S60 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert wrote: > > I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is about $100. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote: > From: freewill2008 > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan > > > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot > > > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same > > > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I > > > would not know why yours is different.?? ? > > > > Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one > > of the recommended fluids for the Ross. > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir > > > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my > > > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but > > > do not know. > > > > The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates > > from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering > > pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then > > back to the reservoir. > > > > There could be several oils that would work in your system. > > What's important is that you know of a correct oil that > > you can obtain and rely on. > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved > > oils > > > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF > > types, > > > > and 2 or 3 motor oils. > > > > > > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that > > hydraulic > > > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi- viscosity > > > > additives, and detergent additives (or not). > > > > > > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my > > conclusion > > > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for > > > > viscosity and additives. > > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K' > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kurt, > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 > > and 91 > > > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10- > > 30 > > > > motor > > > > > oil. I wonder why the difference? > > > > > > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts > > > > Files > > > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters. > > > > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > > > San Antonio, TX >

[Leroy Eckert]

I imagine this will come up again. Once you get it sorted out consider leaving it in the files for the next guy with a 60series. I learned something today. Something different. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:31 AM I may have misunderstood Jesse's phone message. I don't think the series 60 has the Parker Filter. I called parts to get pricing and part #'s and was told the S60 had no inline filter. Waiting for Tech to call me back to clarify and with spec.'s on fluid capacity and proper technique on evacuating and replacing hydraulic fluid. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB S-60 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt Horvath" wrote: > > Got a message yesterday from Jessie on my answering machine. > > It takes three filters. > > The 95 BB with an 8V-92 uses 10w30, the 95 Bird with a series 60 uses > HD32. He didn't give an explanation. > > Also there is a Parker filter on the95 PT-42 with the series 60.It is > located on the roadside between the radiators and the tag axle. I > haven't lay hands on it yet. I'm reasonably sure it's never been > replaced. Anybody have a part number ? > > Anybody know the capacity of the hydraulic system ? > > I'll have to call back and get a part # for the Parker Filter & > pricing, along with fluid capacity and perhaps an explanation why > they used different oils in the coaches with different motors. > > Kurt Horvath > 95 PT-42 WLWB S60 > 10AC > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert > wrote: > > > > I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red > letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option > so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have > other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the > reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach > that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which > tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is about > $100. > > > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > Dahlonega, GA > > Royale Conversion > > > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote: > > From: freewill2008 > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . > > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan > > > > > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot > > > > > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same > > > > > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I > > > > > would not know why yours is different.?? ? > > > > > > > > Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one > > > > of the recommended fluids for the Ross. > > > > > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir > > > > > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my > > > > > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but > > > > > do not know. > > > > > > > > The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates > > > > from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering > > > > pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then > > > > back to the reservoir. > > > > > > > > There could be several oils that would work in your system. > > > > What's important is that you know of a correct oil that > > > > you can obtain and rely on. > > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > > > > > > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved > > > > oils > > > > > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF > > > > types, > > > > > > and 2 or 3 motor oils. > > > > > > > > > > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that > > > > hydraulic > > > > > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi- > viscosity > > > > > > additives, and detergent additives (or not). > > > > > > > > > > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my > > > > conclusion > > > > > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications > for > > > > > > viscosity and additives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K' > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss" > <mbulriss@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kurt, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 > > > > and 91 > > > > > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10- > > > > 30 > > > > > > motor > > > > > > > oil. I wonder why the difference? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & > Belts > > > > > > Files > > > > > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > > > > > San Antonio, TX > > >

[Kurt Horvath]

Ok here's the scoop.

According to Jessie, and yes I DID NOT hear him correctly on my
answering machine, add that to the list of stuff that needs
upgrading,

The 1995 coaches do use different oils in the hydraulic system
according to engine type.

The 8V92 uses 10W30, synthetic oils are ok to use.

The Series 60 uses HD32 and Synthetics are also OK to use. BB cross
referenced the recommended Dino. oil with CASTROL VS977 Synthetic.

The capacity is 16 Quarts, Jessie recommended buying 5 Gallons just
to make sure you have enough to refill the system, the cost of 5
gallons is most likely a little cheaper.

To drain the system BB has a vacuum system that excavates the
reservoir. They do not recommend disconnecting any of the hydraulic
lines in fear of creating a leak or breaking any connections,
especially the elbow under the reservoir tank, I can understand that
the line and elbow are quite a bit heavier construction than the
tank, and BB has encountered past breakage at that particular point.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB S-60
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> I imagine this will come up again. Once you get it sorted out
consider leaving it in the files for the next guy with a 60series. I
learned something today. Something different.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
>
> --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:31 AM
>
>
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>
> I may have misunderstood Jesse's phone message. I don't
think the
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> series 60 has the Parker Filter. I called parts to get pricing and
>
> part #'s and was told the S60 had no inline filter.
>
>
>
> Waiting for Tech to call me back to clarify and with spec.'s on
fluid
>
> capacity and proper technique on evacuating and replacing hydraulic
>
> fluid.
>
>
>
> Kurt Horvath
>
> 95 PT-42 WLWB S-60
>
> 10AC
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Kurt Horvath"
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Got a message yesterday from Jessie on my answering machine.
>
> >
>
> > It takes three filters.
>
> >
>
> > The 95 BB with an 8V-92 uses 10w30, the 95 Bird with a series 60
>
> uses
>
> > HD32. He didn't give an explanation.
>
> >
>
> > Also there is a Parker filter on the95 PT-42 with the series
60.It
>
> is
>
> > located on the roadside between the radiators and the tag axle. I
>
> > haven't lay hands on it yet. I'm reasonably sure it's never been
>
> > replaced. Anybody have a part number ?
>
> >
>
> > Anybody know the capacity of the hydraulic system ?
>
> >
>
> > I'll have to call back and get a part # for the Parker Filter &
>
> > pricing, along with fluid capacity and perhaps an explanation why
>
> > they used different oils in the coaches with different motors.
>
> >
>
> > Kurt Horvath
>
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB S60
>
> > 10AC
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red
>
> > letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an
option
>
> > so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have
>
> > other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in
the
>
> > reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my
coach
>
> > that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which
>
> > tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is
>
> about
>
> > $100.
>
> > >
>
> > > Leroy Eckert
>
> > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>
> > > Dahlonega, GA
>
> > > Royale Conversion
>
> > >
>
> > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote:
>
> > > From: freewill2008
>
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering
Boxes . . .
>
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan
>
> > >
>
> > > > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot
>
> > >
>
> > > > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same
>
> > >
>
> > > > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I
>
> > >
>
> > > > would not know why yours is different.?? ?
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one
>
> > >
>
> > > of the recommended fluids for the Ross.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir
>
> > >
>
> > > > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my
>
> > >
>
> > > > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but
>
> > >
>
> > > > do not know.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates
>
> > >
>
> > > from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering
>
> > >
>
> > > pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then
>
> > >
>
> > > back to the reservoir.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > There could be several oils that would work in your system.
>
> > >
>
> > > What's important is that you know of a correct oil that
>
> > >
>
> > > you can obtain and rely on.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > Leroy Eckert
>
> > >
>
> > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>
> > >
>
> > > > Dahlonega, GA
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of
approved
>
> > >
>
> > > oils
>
> > >
>
> > > > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of
ATF
>
> > >
>
> > > types,
>
> > >
>
> > > > > and 2 or 3 motor oils.
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that
>
> > >
>
> > > hydraulic
>
> > >
>
> > > > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-
>
> > viscosity
>
> > >
>
> > > > > additives, and detergent additives (or not).
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my
>
> > >
>
> > > conclusion
>
> > >
>
> > > > > is that the recommended oils all have similar
specifications
>
> > for
>
> > >
>
> > > > > viscosity and additives.
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
> > >
>
> > > > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
>
> > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss"
>
> > <mbulriss@>
>
> > >
>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Kurt,
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know
my
>
> 83
>
> > >
>
> > > and 91
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-
grade
>
> 10-
>
> > >
>
> > > 30
>
> > >
>
> > > > > motor
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > oil. I wonder why the difference?
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters &
>
> > Belts
>
> > >
>
> > > > > Files
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
>
> > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > Mike Bulriss
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
>
> > >
>
> > > > > > San Antonio, TX
>
> > >
>
> >
>

[Pete Masterson]

My power steering reservoir is a large blue "canister" located above
the engine oil refill tank on the curb side as you look in the engine
compartment from the rear. There's a chrome vent cap at the top that
will spew oil if the canister is overfilled. (Ask the place where
I'll never take my 'bird again how I know that.)

Not sure about the 'stack order' of the radiators ... mine has the
intercooler (air-charge cooler) on the outside, engine radiator, and
the chassis AC condenser on the inside.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at



On Aug 24, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Gregg,
>
>
> So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up to the
> fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
>
> The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C condenser,
> Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
>
> On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the main
> radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
> hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
>
> I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a reservoir?
> Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at this
> point.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> |10AC
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
>>
>> on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids are kept
> in
>> the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator infront of
>> engine radiator
>>
>> GregoryO'Connor
>> 94ptRomolandCa--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
>> Horvath" wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for that post Bob,
>>>
>>> I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last trip to
>> the
>>> shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say who
>>> knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no records of
>>> that.
>>>
>>> I have been working on the coach steering since day one and while
>>> it's greatly improved, it could be better.
>>>
>>> A few questions need to be answered.
>>>
>>> On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a stand
>>> alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have a
>>> cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler, but
>> two
>>> weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan and
>>> motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never noticed it
>>> before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
>> adjustments
>>> in the steering box ?
>>>
>>> Any other inf. would be helpful.
>>>
>>> Kurt Horvath
>>> 95-PT-42 WLWB
>>> 10AC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
>> from "whatever
>>> was
>>>> in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The
>> steering
>>> had
>>>> always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations like
>>> parking.
>>>> Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could
> spin
>>> the
>>>> wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no resistance.
>> Looks
>>>> like synthetic is a winner!
>>>>
>>>> I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
>> Hopefully
>>> the
>>>> valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic noise
>> will
>>> be
>>>> reduced.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have shared
>> their
>>>> experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[Pete Masterson]

I have the Super-Steer with trim control installed by Henderson's
Line-up, Grants Pass, OR.

It seems to provide better handling -- and the trim control is handy
for relief of pressure on the steering wheel when dealing with a
cross-wind or road crown that give a pull to one side.

When I purchased my coach, it had a Blue OX "True Center" unit that
was damaged, jammed, and bent (and I understand had been recalled).
It caused a strong pull to the right. The bus handled much better
without it -- but had a bit of 'wander' (but also had a worn drag
link end that contributed to that effect). I can't say how much of
the handling improvement is due to the SuperSteer and how much is due
to the replacement of the drag link (tie rod) ends as they were
installed at the same time.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Idaho Springs, CO



On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine compartment is the
> reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it also has
> 3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years. It takes
> HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is no real
> adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus for the
> front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs. I'm told
> it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to check into
> that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea?
>

[Pete Masterson]

When I had my bent, broken, and jammed Blue Ox replaced, it looked
like a toy compared to the SuperSteer. I wouldn't get a Blue Ox True
Center. Talk to Henderson's Line-up in Grants Pass OR. They're the
manufacturer of the SuperSteer. They do excellent work (except for
rewelding broken shock absorber mounts, but that's another story).

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Idaho Springs, CO




On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Leroy,
>
> I like the looks of the Blue Ox.
> Does the push button activation for centering work well?
> Have you used any other steering controls? If so how do they stack up
> against the Blue Ox?
>

[Pete Masterson]

When I was in Riverside, I asked CCW to replace _all_ filters and
check all fluids. No filter for the hydraulic system was mentioned.
The power steering reservoir (apparently) was full, so nothing was
added.

Of course, it may have been overlooked -- but they were pretty
thorough about everything else.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Idaho Springs, CO



On Aug 26, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> I imagine this will come up again. Once you get it sorted out
> consider leaving it in the files for the next guy with a 60series.
> I learned something today. Something different.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA

[Rob Robinson]

First off I believe an OEM steering system should work properly. In other words, firstmake sure you steering system is in good shape and properly adjusted. A SUPPLEMENTAL steering assist system should only be considered as a last resort. They are a bandaide approach. Having said that, if your system is in good shape and properly adjust and yet you feel it is deficient then your only recourse is one of these aftermarket add-ons. The hype and BS about blow-out protection should be ignored. See the Michelin video on that. Finally consider this....some of these aftermarket systems put added strain (springs, hydraulics) on your steering system. Added strain cannot be good. (I removed previous owner's bent, leaking Blue Ox steer somethingorother)

2008/8/26 Pete Masterson <"aeonix1@mac.com">

When I had my bent, broken, and jammed Blue Ox replaced, it looked
like a toy compared to the SuperSteer. I wouldn't get a Blue Ox True
Center. Talk to Henderson's Line-up in Grants Pass OR. They're the

manufacturer of the SuperSteer. They do excellent work (except for
rewelding broken shock absorber mounts, but that's another story).

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
"aeonix1%40mac.com"

On the road at Idaho Springs, CO

On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Leroy,
>
> I like the looks of the Blue Ox.
> Does the push button activation for centering work well?

> Have you used any other steering controls? If so how do they stack up
> against the Blue Ox?
>

--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson

94 WLWB

[pattypape]

Yep Rob 100%

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> First off I believe an OEM steering system should work properly. In
other
> words, first make sure you steering system is in good shape and
properly
> adjusted. A SUPPLEMENTAL steering assist system should only be
considered as
> a last resort. They are a bandaide approach. Having said that, if
your
> system is in good shape and properly adjust and yet you feel it is
deficient
> then your only recourse is one of these aftermarket add-ons. The
hype and BS
> about blow-out protection should be ignored. See the Michelin video
on that.
> Finally consider this....some of these aftermarket systems put
added strain
> (springs, hydraulics) on your steering system. Added strain cannot
be good.
> (I removed previous owner's bent, leaking Blue Ox steer
somethingorother)
>
>
>
> 2008/8/26 Pete Masterson
>
> > When I had my bent, broken, and jammed Blue Ox replaced, it
looked
> > like a toy compared to the SuperSteer. I wouldn't get a Blue Ox
True
> > Center. Talk to Henderson's Line-up in Grants Pass OR. They're the
> > manufacturer of the SuperSteer. They do excellent work (except for
> > rewelding broken shock absorber mounts, but that's another story).
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > aeonix1@...
> > On the road at Idaho Springs, CO
> >
> > On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >
> > > Leroy,
> > >
> > > I like the looks of the Blue Ox.
> > > Does the push button activation for centering work well?
> > > Have you used any other steering controls? If so how do they
stack up
> > > against the Blue Ox?
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>

[bubblerboy64]

You wouldn't walk with a crutch unless you had to.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
>
> Yep Rob 100%
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > First off I believe an OEM steering system should work properly.
In
> other
> > words, first make sure you steering system is in good shape and
> properly
> > adjusted. A SUPPLEMENTAL steering assist system should only be
> considered as
> > a last resort. They are a bandaide approach. Having said that, if
> your
> > system is in good shape and properly adjust and yet you feel it
is
> deficient
> > then your only recourse is one of these aftermarket add-ons. The
> hype and BS
> > about blow-out protection should be ignored. See the Michelin
video
> on that.
> > Finally consider this....some of these aftermarket systems put
> added strain
> > (springs, hydraulics) on your steering system. Added strain
cannot
> be good.
> > (I removed previous owner's bent, leaking Blue Ox steer
> somethingorother)
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/8/26 Pete Masterson
> >
> > > When I had my bent, broken, and jammed Blue Ox replaced, it
> looked
> > > like a toy compared to the SuperSteer. I wouldn't get a Blue Ox
> True
> > > Center. Talk to Henderson's Line-up in Grants Pass OR. They're
the
> > > manufacturer of the SuperSteer. They do excellent work (except
for
> > > rewelding broken shock absorber mounts, but that's another
story).
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > aeonix1@
> > > On the road at Idaho Springs, CO
> > >
> > > On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> > >
> > > > Leroy,
> > > >
> > > > I like the looks of the Blue Ox.
> > > > Does the push button activation for centering work well?
> > > > Have you used any other steering controls? If so how do they
> stack up
> > > > against the Blue Ox?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
>