Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .

[freewill2008]

> Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan
> spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot
> see that makes any difference. I know that is the same
> on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I
> would not know why yours is different.???

Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one
of the recommended fluids for the Ross.

> Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir
> a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my
> steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but
> do not know.

The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates
from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering
pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then
back to the reservoir.

There could be several oils that would work in your system.
What's important is that you know of a correct oil that
you can obtain and rely on.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> >
> > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved
oils
> > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF
types,
> > and 2 or 3 motor oils.
> >
> > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that
hydraulic
> > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-viscosity
> > additives, and detergent additives (or not).
> >
> > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my
conclusion
> > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for
> > viscosity and additives.
> >
> > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt,
> > >
> > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83
and 91
> > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-
30
> > motor
> > > oil. I wonder why the difference?
> > >
> > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts
> > Files
> > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX

[Kurt Horvath]

Mike,

The last time I had the reservoir topped off at Detroit D. they used
the HD32, but my BB Guru said it could use either HD32 or 10-30 he
wasn't sure which was used in my coach.

That's why I have a call into Jessie @ BB in Ft. Valley.

I looked up the filters in the files and have a new cross reference #
for it WIX # 57317.

I've been told it takes three of these filters, checking on that also.

I found these filters online at http://www.filtercrossreference.com

http://www.filtercrossreference.com/cart.aspx?
Number=57317&cost=28.59&case=1

$29.59 each plus shipping around $10.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB
10AC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Kurt,
>
> Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 and 91
> and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-30
motor
> oil. I wonder why the difference?
>
> By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts
Files
> have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine compartment is
the
> > reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it also
has
> > 3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years. It
takes
> > HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is no
real
> > adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus for
the
> > front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs. I'm
told
> > it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to check
into
> > that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea?
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no
intercooler
> > > it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big tank
near
> > > the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up??
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gregg,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up
to
> > > the
> > > > fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
> > > >
> > > > The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C
condenser,
> > > > Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
> > > >
> > > > On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the
main
> > > > radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
> > > > hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a
> > > reservoir?
> > > > Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at
> > this
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> > > > |10AC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids
are
> > > kept
> > > > in
> > > > > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator
infront
> > > of
> > > > > engine radiator
> > > > >
> > > > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > > > 94ptRomolandCa--- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> > > > > Horvath" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for that post Bob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last
> > trip
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you
say
> > > who
> > > > > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no
> > records
> > > of
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been working on the coach steering since day one
and
> > > while
> > > > > > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A few questions need to be answered.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box
a
> > > stand
> > > > > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it
have
> > a
> > > > > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a
cooler,
> > > but
> > > > > two
> > > > > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage
fan
> > > and
> > > > > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never
> > noticed
> > > it
> > > > > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> > > > > adjustments
> > > > > > in the steering box ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > 10AC
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> > > > > from "whatever
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid.
The
> > > > > steering
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed
situations
> > > like
> > > > > > parking.
> > > > > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I
could
> > > > spin
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no
> > > resistance.
> > > > > Looks
> > > > > > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic
> > > noise
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > reduced.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have
> > shared
> > > > > their
> > > > > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Leroy,

I like the looks of the Blue Ox.
Does the push button activation for centering work well?
Have you used any other steering controls? If so how do they stack up
against the Blue Ox?

Thanks

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy A. Eckert"
wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> wrote:
>
> I have a Blue Ox TruCenter on the front end.
> http://www.blueox.us/TruCenter/tru_center.html
> Supposed to keep you on the road if a blow out occurs. I really
don't
> care to find out if it works. It is not a substitute for poor ball
> joint connections.
> My power steering and hydraulic fan spec's 10w-30 motor oil,
> specifically, Texaco but cannot see that makes any difference. I
know
> that is the same on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I
> would not know why yours is different.??? However, I would not call
> the reservoir a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of
my
> steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but do not know.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> >
> > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved
oils
> > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF
types,
> > and 2 or 3 motor oils.
> >
> > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that
hydraulic
> > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-viscosity
> > additives, and detergent additives (or not).
> >
> > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my
conclusion
> > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for
> > viscosity and additives.
> >
> > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt,
> > >
> > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83
and 91
> > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-
30
> > motor
> > > oil. I wonder why the difference?
> > >
> > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts
> > Files
> > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine
compartment is
> > the
> > > > reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it
also
> > has
> > > > 3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years.
It
> > takes
> > > > HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is
no
> > real
> > > > adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus
for
> > the
> > > > front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs.
I'm
> > told
> > > > it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to
check
> > into
> > > > that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea?
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > 10AC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no
> > intercooler
> > > > > it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big
tank
> > near
> > > > > the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up??
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gregg,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked
up
> > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C
> > condenser,
> > > > > > Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between
the
> > main
> > > > > > radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are
the
> > > > > > hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a
> > > > > reservoir?
> > > > > > Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no
clue at
> > > > this
> > > > > > point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> > > > > > |10AC
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory
OConnor"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the
fluids
> > are
> > > > > kept
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator
> > infront
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > engine radiator
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > > > > > 94ptRomolandCa--- In
> > WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> > > > > > > Horvath" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for that post Bob,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my
last
> > > > trip
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like
you
> > say
> > > > > who
> > > > > > > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have
no
> > > > records
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have been working on the coach steering since day
one
> > and
> > > > > while
> > > > > > > > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A few questions need to be answered.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering
box
> > a
> > > > > stand
> > > > > > > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does
it
> > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a
> > cooler,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel
cage
> > fan
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse,
never
> > > > noticed
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any
internal
> > > > > > > adjustments
> > > > > > > > in the steering box ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > > 10AC
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic
oil
> > > > > > > from "whatever
> > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering
fluid.
> > The
> > > > > > > steering
> > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed
> > situations
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > > parking.
> > > > > > > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system
I
> > could
> > > > > > spin
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no
> > > > > resistance.
> > > > > > > Looks
> > > > > > > > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering
system.
> > > > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > valve action will improve out on the road and
hydraulic
> > > > > noise
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > reduced.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who
have
> > > > shared
> > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and
cooler.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Leroy Eckert]

I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is about $100. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote: From: freewill2008 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I > would not know why yours is different.?? ? Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one of the recommended fluids for the Ross. > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but > do not know. The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then back to the reservoir. There could be several oils that would work in your system. What's important is that you know of a correct oil that you can obtain and rely on. Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved oils > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF types, > > and 2 or 3 motor oils. > > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that hydraulic > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-viscosity > > additives, and detergent additives (or not). > > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my conclusion > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for > > viscosity and additives. > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K' > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Kurt, > > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 and 91 > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10- 30 > > motor > > > oil. I wonder why the difference? > > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts > > Files > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters. > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > San Antonio, TX

[Leroy Eckert]

As I drive down the road, road crowns are different as is wind direction. I push the button and set it up. It tracks nicely even when passed by a 53' 18 wheeler. I have not used another manufacturer nor have I driven one with a different model. I like the way the Blue Ox works. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:09 PM Leroy, I like the looks of the Blue Ox. Does the push button activation for centering work well? Have you used any other steering controls? If so how do they stack up against the Blue Ox? Thanks Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Leroy A. Eckert" wrote: > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "freewill2008" > wrote: > > I have a Blue Ox TruCenter on the front end. > http://www.blueox. us/TruCenter/ tru_center. html > Supposed to keep you on the road if a blow out occurs. I really don't > care to find out if it works. It is not a substitute for poor ball > joint connections. > My power steering and hydraulic fan spec's 10w-30 motor oil, > specifically, Texaco but cannot see that makes any difference. I know > that is the same on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I > would not know why yours is different.?? ? However, I would not call > the reservoir a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but do not know. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved oils > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF types, > > and 2 or 3 motor oils. > > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that hydraulic > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-viscosity > > additives, and detergent additives (or not). > > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my conclusion > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for > > viscosity and additives. > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K' > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Kurt, > > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 and 91 > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10- 30 > > motor > > > oil. I wonder why the difference? > > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts > > Files > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters. > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt Horvath" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine compartment is > > the > > > > reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it also > > has > > > > 3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years. It > > takes > > > > HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is no > > real > > > > adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus for > > the > > > > front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs. I'm > > told > > > > it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to check > > into > > > > that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea? > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB > > > > 10AC > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Gregory OConnor" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no > > intercooler > > > > > it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big tank > > near > > > > > the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up?? > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt Horvath" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gregg, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system? > > > > > > > > > > > > The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C > > condenser, > > > > > > Intercooler, Engine Radiator. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the > > main > > > > > > radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the > > > > > > hydraulic fan cooling radiators. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a > > > > > reservoir? > > > > > > Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at > > > > this > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath > > > > > > 95 Pt-42 WLWB > > > > > > |10AC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Gregory OConnor" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids > > are > > > > > kept > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator > > infront > > > > > of > > > > > > > engine radiator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GregoryO'Connor > > > > > > > 94ptRomolandCa- -- In > > "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Kurt > > > > > > > Horvath" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that post Bob, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last > > > > trip > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you > > say > > > > > who > > > > > > > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no > > > > records > > > > > of > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been working on the coach steering since day one > > and > > > > > while > > > > > > > > it's greatly improved, it could be better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A few questions need to be answered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box > > a > > > > > stand > > > > > > > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it > > have > > > > a > > > > > > > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a > > cooler, > > > > > but > > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage > > fan > > > > > and > > > > > > > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never > > > > noticed > > > > > it > > > > > > > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal > > > > > > > adjustments > > > > > > > > in the steering box ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other inf. would be helpful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath > > > > > > > > 95-PT-42 WLWB > > > > > > > > 10AC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "freewill2008" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil > > > > > > > from "whatever > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. > > The > > > > > > > steering > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed > > situations > > > > > like > > > > > > > > parking. > > > > > > > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I > > could > > > > > > spin > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no > > > > > resistance. > > > > > > > Looks > > > > > > > > > like synthetic is a winner! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system. > > > > > > > Hopefully > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic > > > > > noise > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > reduced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have > > > > shared > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Kurt Horvath]

Leroy,

Wish I had a manual!

Still waiting for a call back from Jessie @ BB.

Checking on the 4TH FILTER.

Do you think that 10w30 synthetic oil would be a problem in lieu of
regular dino drippings:}

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red
letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option
so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have
other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the
reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach
that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which
tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is about
$100.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote:
> From: freewill2008
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan
>
> > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot
>
> > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same
>
> > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I
>
> > would not know why yours is different.?? ?
>
>
>
> Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one
>
> of the recommended fluids for the Ross.
>
>
>
> > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir
>
> > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my
>
> > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but
>
> > do not know.
>
>
>
> The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates
>
> from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering
>
> pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then
>
> back to the reservoir.
>
>
>
> There could be several oils that would work in your system.
>
> What's important is that you know of a correct oil that
>
> you can obtain and rely on.
>
>
>
> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Leroy Eckert
>
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>
> > Dahlonega, GA
>
> > >
>
> > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved
>
> oils
>
> > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF
>
> types,
>
> > > and 2 or 3 motor oils.
>
> > >
>
> > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that
>
> hydraulic
>
> > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-
viscosity
>
> > > additives, and detergent additives (or not).
>
> > >
>
> > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my
>
> conclusion
>
> > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications
for
>
> > > viscosity and additives.
>
> > >
>
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
> > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@>
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Kurt,
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83
>
> and 91
>
> > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-
>
> 30
>
> > > motor
>
> > > > oil. I wonder why the difference?
>
> > > >
>
> > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters &
Belts
>
> > > Files
>
> > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Mike Bulriss
>
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
>
> > > > San Antonio, TX
>

[Leroy Eckert]

I cannot imagine why synthetic 10w30 would not work, BUT I did not write the spec. Here are filter numbers I have; Parker Cannister filter-(about 18" long in line street side) Parker 925835 Donaldson P170073 BB 2122026 Reservoir filters(3 each)With original 10w30 sticker on top. Nelson 83284D Donaldson P550698 BB 2137065 I would think your application is the same but verify with Jesse in no manual in hand. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:21 PM Leroy, Wish I had a manual! Still waiting for a call back from Jessie @ BB. Checking on the 4TH FILTER. Do you think that 10w30 synthetic oil would be a problem in lieu of regular dino drippings:} Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert wrote: > > I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is about $100. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote: > From: freewill2008 > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan > > > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot > > > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same > > > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I > > > would not know why yours is different.?? ? > > > > Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one > > of the recommended fluids for the Ross. > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir > > > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my > > > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but > > > do not know. > > > > The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates > > from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering > > pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then > > back to the reservoir. > > > > There could be several oils that would work in your system. > > What's important is that you know of a correct oil that > > you can obtain and rely on. > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved > > oils > > > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF > > types, > > > > and 2 or 3 motor oils. > > > > > > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that > > hydraulic > > > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi- viscosity > > > > additives, and detergent additives (or not). > > > > > > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my > > conclusion > > > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for > > > > viscosity and additives. > > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K' > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kurt, > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 > > and 91 > > > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10- > > 30 > > > > motor > > > > > oil. I wonder why the difference? > > > > > > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts > > > > Files > > > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters. > > > > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > > > San Antonio, TX >

[Leroy Eckert]

Repost. The original is in cyber space --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Leroy Eckert wrote: From: Leroy Eckert Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:34 PM I cannot imagine why synthetic 10w30 would not work, BUT I did not write the spec. Here are filter numbers I have; Parker Cannister filter-(about 18" long in line street side) Parker 925835 Donaldson P170073 BB 2122026 Reservoir filters(3 each)With original 10w30 sticker on top. Nelson 83284D Donaldson P550698 BB 2137065 I would think your application is the same but verify with Jesse in no manual in hand. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:21 PM Leroy, Wish I had a manual! Still waiting for a call back from Jessie @ BB. Checking on the 4TH FILTER. Do you think that 10w30 synthetic oil would be a problem in lieu of regular dino drippings:} Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert wrote: > > I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is about $100. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote: > From: freewill2008 > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . . > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan > > > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot > > > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same > > > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I > > > would not know why yours is different.?? ? > > > > Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one > > of the recommended fluids for the Ross. > > > > > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir > > > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my > > > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but > > > do not know. > > > > The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates > > from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering > > pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then > > back to the reservoir. > > > > There could be several oils that would work in your system. > > What's important is that you know of a correct oil that > > you can obtain and rely on. > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > > > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > > > > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved > > oils > > > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF > > types, > > > > and 2 or 3 motor oils. > > > > > > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that > > hydraulic > > > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi- viscosity > > > > additives, and detergent additives (or not). > > > > > > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my > > conclusion > > > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for > > > > viscosity and additives. > > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K' > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kurt, > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 > > and 91 > > > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10- > > 30 > > > > motor > > > > > oil. I wonder why the difference? > > > > > > > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts > > > > Files > > > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters. > > > > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > > > San Antonio, TX >

[Kurt Horvath]

Got a message yesterday from Jessie on my answering machine.

It takes three filters.

The 95 BB with an 8V-92 uses 10w30, the 95 Bird with a series 60 uses
HD32. He didn't give an explanation.

Also there is a Parker filter on the95 PT-42 with the series 60.It is
located on the roadside between the radiators and the tag axle. I
haven't lay hands on it yet. I'm reasonably sure it's never been
replaced. Anybody have a part number ?

Anybody know the capacity of the hydraulic system ?

I'll have to call back and get a part # for the Parker Filter &
pricing, along with fluid capacity and perhaps an explanation why
they used different oils in the coaches with different motors.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB S60
10AC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red
letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option
so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have
other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the
reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach
that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which
tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is about
$100.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote:
> From: freewill2008
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan
>
> > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot
>
> > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same
>
> > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I
>
> > would not know why yours is different.?? ?
>
>
>
> Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one
>
> of the recommended fluids for the Ross.
>
>
>
> > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir
>
> > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my
>
> > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but
>
> > do not know.
>
>
>
> The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates
>
> from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering
>
> pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then
>
> back to the reservoir.
>
>
>
> There could be several oils that would work in your system.
>
> What's important is that you know of a correct oil that
>
> you can obtain and rely on.
>
>
>
> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Leroy Eckert
>
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>
> > Dahlonega, GA
>
> > >
>
> > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved
>
> oils
>
> > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF
>
> types,
>
> > > and 2 or 3 motor oils.
>
> > >
>
> > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that
>
> hydraulic
>
> > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-
viscosity
>
> > > additives, and detergent additives (or not).
>
> > >
>
> > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my
>
> conclusion
>
> > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications
for
>
> > > viscosity and additives.
>
> > >
>
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
> > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@>
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Kurt,
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83
>
> and 91
>
> > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-
>
> 30
>
> > > motor
>
> > > > oil. I wonder why the difference?
>
> > > >
>
> > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters &
Belts
>
> > > Files
>
> > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Mike Bulriss
>
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
>
> > > > San Antonio, TX
>

[Kurt Horvath]

I may have misunderstood Jesse's phone message. I don't think the
series 60 has the Parker Filter. I called parts to get pricing and
part #'s and was told the S60 had no inline filter.

Waiting for Tech to call me back to clarify and with spec.'s on fluid
capacity and proper technique on evacuating and replacing hydraulic
fluid.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB S-60
10AC




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
wrote:
>
> Got a message yesterday from Jessie on my answering machine.
>
> It takes three filters.
>
> The 95 BB with an 8V-92 uses 10w30, the 95 Bird with a series 60
uses
> HD32. He didn't give an explanation.
>
> Also there is a Parker filter on the95 PT-42 with the series 60.It
is
> located on the roadside between the radiators and the tag axle. I
> haven't lay hands on it yet. I'm reasonably sure it's never been
> replaced. Anybody have a part number ?
>
> Anybody know the capacity of the hydraulic system ?
>
> I'll have to call back and get a part # for the Parker Filter &
> pricing, along with fluid capacity and perhaps an explanation why
> they used different oils in the coaches with different motors.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42 WLWB S60
> 10AC
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
> wrote:
> >
> > I try not to make it difficult. My BB manual has a specific red
> letter warning which calls for 10w30. It does not give me an option
> so that is what I use. That is not to say that others do not have
> other compatible oil options. Along with the three filters in the
> reservoir is a Parker filter in line on the street side of my coach
> that has a warning light on it up by the rear start switch which
> tells the owner if it is in bypass or plugged. That filter is
about
> $100.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, GA
> > Royale Conversion
> >
> > --- On Mon, 8/25/08, freewill2008 wrote:
> > From: freewill2008
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:07 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > > Leroy A. Eckert: My power steering and hydraulic fan
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> > > spec's 10w-30 motor oil, specifically, Texaco but cannot
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> > > see that makes any difference. I know that is the same
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> > > on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I
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> > > would not know why yours is different.?? ?
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> > Actually, it is not different. 10w-30 motor oil is one
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> > of the recommended fluids for the Ross.
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> > > Leroy A. Eckert: However, I would not call the reservoir
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> > > a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my
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> > > steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but
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> > > do not know.
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> > The reservoir holds extra oil that constantly circulates
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> > from the reservoir to the hydraulic pump (power steering
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> > pump), to the steering box, to your fan motor, and then
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> > back to the reservoir.
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> > There could be several oils that would work in your system.
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> > What's important is that you know of a correct oil that
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> > you can obtain and rely on.
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> > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
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> > > Leroy Eckert
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> > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
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> > > Dahlonega, GA
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> > > > For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved
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> > > > including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF
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> > types,
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> > > > and 2 or 3 motor oils.
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> > > > While researching available synthetic oils, I found that
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> > > > oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-
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> > > > additives, and detergent additives (or not).
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> > > > Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my
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> > conclusion
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> > > > is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications
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> > > > viscosity and additives.
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> > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
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> > > > (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
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> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "mbulriss"
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> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > Kurt,
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> > > > > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my
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> > > > > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade
10-
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> > 30
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> > > > motor
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> > > > > oil. I wonder why the difference?
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> > > > > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters &
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> > > > > have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
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> > > > > Mike Bulriss
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> > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
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> > > > > San Antonio, TX
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