WHY DON'T WE HAVE AUTO GAS AT GAS STATIONS HERE LIKE THEY DO IN AUSTRALIA???

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

Pete:
With your expert comments, it is probably time to close off this
subject matter....what do you recommend Ernie?

I will just continue being satisfied driving my corolla and
Mitsubishi on "autogas" and we will all live "happily everafter...now
that Naty & are are "happily" married like the rest of you. Just
kidding..
I am already entered in the "SENIORS TOURNEY" at the WSOP on Monday
here. Should be 3000 entries...sure hope I get LUCKY!
I have enjoyed discussing "autogas." I apologize if I offended
anyone.
LOL
Hank
90SP36 in Vegas






--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Hank,
>
> I don't know why "autogas" (propane?) is so relatively cheap in
> Australia.
>
> In the U.S., domestic heating oil (essentially diesel) is
currently
> at an average price of $3.71/gal and propane (sold as domestic
> heating fuel) is currently at an average price of $2.66/gal here.
>
> That makes propane about 30% less expensive per gallon than
heating
> oil when sold in bulk for home use. I'm comparing the heating fuel
> prices because propane is not generally sold as a vehicle fuel
here.
> These prices therefore compare with a similar level of taxation. I
> note that diesel road fuel is about $1.30 per gallon higher than
> heating oil and that would be a fair reflection of the typical
> vehicle fuel tax load including Federal, state, and local taxes.
>
> For what it's worth, you're quoting "autogas" at about 65% less
> expensive than petrol per unit of measure. That is a pretty
> significant savings and covers the lower miles per gallon
(kilometers
> per liter) you get with propane.
>
> Propane has about 92,000 Btu/gal while gasoline has about 124,000
btu/
> gal. So, your rate of use for the same amount of work is about 25%
> higher with propane.
>
> So, adjusting for the difference between the costs and
efficiencies,
> propane is only about 5% cheaper based on U.S. prices. This is a
> "savings" that would quickly disappear once the increased demand
> pushed up the cost of propane.
>
> For what ever reason, there is a substantial cost differential in
> Australia that does not carry over to the U.S.
>
> Another writer addressed the operating issues that occur in colder
> climates -- something that Australia, to my knowledge, does not
have
> in a significant measure. During and earlier "gas crisis" many
> vehicles in corporate and government fleets were converted to use
> propane or compressed natural gas. In large part, those vehicles
have
> not been replaced with similar technology when they were worn out.
> This would tend to suggest that, under the conditions of the
various
> vehicle fleets, that the change was not economically advantageous.
> Corporate vehicle fleets are usually closely monitored for the
> economics of their operation, and if experimental operations prove
> effective at lowering costs or increasing efficiency, they will be
> implemented.
>
> I note that there is some experimentation with converting transit
> busses to gasoline-electric hybrid operation like the Toyota
Prius.
> The new owners of BB Coachworks are one of the vendors making such
> conversions.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Henry Jay Hannigan wrote:
> > <snip>
> > Let's see..I pay 62 cents a litre for "autogas" and $1.73 per
litre
> > for petrol(American gasoline) and miles per gallon differences
> > between "autogas" and petrol and power difference are nearly
> > negligible to me and over a million Australians
utilizing "autogas."
> >
>