88' 8v92 NC 50grand

[bubblerboy64]

I would like to add that I am not questioning what a PT is "worth"
to its owner. I bet Mr Hayden's coach is a beauty and "worth" twice
his asking price. Problem is we are all running scared and that
pushes the market down even more then the cost of diesel. There are
guys in the business who know the market. I am saying is that there
are bunches of PT's and FC priced fairly and not selling so what is a
guy going to do? He is going to have to hold on or take an "unfair"
offer. I will tell you what I paid for "The Big Napper" $18,500 and
I have about $30,000 in it the way it sits ( which was my target) .I
bought it a year ago. I have pictures of it posted. You will not
find one much nicer and it's not for sale but I have no unrealistic
idea that I would get much more then $15K for it if I HAD to sell.
(Don't any one offer me $15K just to make a point either) I don't
like that much but saying its different doesn't make it so. You see
FC's listed from 9K to 70K. None are moving so you tell me... Pt's
the same. Only way we'll know is if some one sells one and lets us
know the number (not going to happen). The rest is pure
speculation. It's a sorry situation but saying differently doesn't
change a thing. My coach is worth $30 to me which is in my situation
today all that matters. I hope that I don't have to find out in the
near future what its worth to the next guy. I'll let some one else
worry. Leroy's point is buy quality, because price is not cost.
That I firmly believe is a great reason to buy a BB. Factor that
into your thinking and good luck.

John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC





>
> Never at a loss for words, I will attempt to answer some of your
questions.
>
> But before I do, I feel your economic pain as do a gazillion other
Americans. It happen to me also after NAFTA was signed the terms of
which subsequently took down a 50 year old company I worked for
because all the work went to the Maquiladora's in Mexico, thereby
taking my $.5M golden parachute with it. I earned it but never got
it. Unfortunately, that has nothing to do with what you pay for a BB.
>
> The reason you are looking at BB's is, you know as well as I do
that it will last you the rest of your life if properly maintained.
You see value. If properly maintained it will be your last coach. If
not it wouldn't. You cannot say that about any of the 1000 SOB's out
there for sale. Plastic palaces are essentially throw away items. How
many of them 20 year old babies do you see around.
>
> As for future value, do you believe that a well maintained 87 PT 38
will be worth zero one day? If so, you should think a little more. If
you go out there an grab that "fabulous deal" you find, characterized
in terms of dollars you better be careful. You can drop $20k in one
of these things in a heart beat and I ain't talking about the
Heartbeat of America, because these things aren't Chevy's but are the
Mercedes of motor homes.
>
> I see you reside in Washington. I think Dick Hayden, the good
fellow with the $60K bus, lives in that State also. Perhaps it would
be prudent to go look at his fine coach. You might like it and see
the ""value"" because that is what you are really looking for.
>
> I wonder after you buy it if you will think it is worth $40K?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> J R Saunders
wrote: John,
>
> I think you said, what needed to be said here. As a buyer, the
wife & I have been
> looking for 3+ months. And with the current high diesel prices and
economy today.
> Not knowing how LOW it's going to go, why would we pay $60K for a
20+ year old PT.
>
> I know.....because it's Bluebird Wanderlodge! NOT!
>
> Sorry that just does not cut it in this economy. Their our 1000's
of other, newer coaches for sale
> for that amount money, that will do the same job. We just do not
have to have a 20+ year old BB.
> Would we spend $40K on a 20+ year old Wanderlodge??? Yes, maybe,
but that would be our upper
> limit and I would want to be able to eat off the floors in that
unit for $40K. LOL. We looked a very
> nice 40' Bus Conversion, (82 bus, pro converted 86) the seller has
lowered the price 3
> times so far, well below $40k. Come this August, we will give this
some serious consideration.
>
> Another think that needs to be considered in todays market is the
buyer. Who is the buyer? Today I think
> it's OK to say we have.......People that have lot's of money and
all the other folks that do not. The middle
> class, are not longer middle class, money wise. They are now down
a few rungs on the economy's ladder.
> My wife and I are the other folks and not by choice. The economy
got us a few years ago, big time, right
> after 911. The wife works as a flight attendant (37 years) for a
major airline, that went into bankruptcy. We
> no longer have any room to make any mistakes, money wise....Using
retirement monies and the tax consequences
> need to be considered, as well.
>
> Why we are looking for coach. We want a 35' to 40' coach to live
in while we sell our house, the wife will then
> take an early retirement and we will go south to look for land or
something in NM. We are not going to be full
> times, as I will be setting up a small Powder Coating business. We
currently own an 84 22' Class A SOB, that
> is just to small for the amount of time we will be living in it.
>
> As buyers we have 1000's of choices to consider. For us it comes
down to getting a coach that will serve our needs
> at a price we can live with. How much is that mid to late 80's PT
going to be worth in 5 years, 10 years???
> For us right now, that is not a big deal, as this will be our last
coach purchase. However it does need to be considered.
>
> Thanks again for your time.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> J R & Deane
> (84 22' A SOB)
> Kent, WA
>
>
>
> bubblerboy64 wrote:
> Having sold a 5th wheel in January after seven months on the
market
> and taking a loss of 50% a fellow can hardly laugh at any offer in
> todays market. And the market is a lot worse off now then in
> January. Not telling any one something they don't know. I think
the
> market is a lot less then $60K. FC's are not selling at $20 and
there
> are a bunch of PT's listed at $60 and not moving. I think $15 for
an
> FC and $40 for a PT is the market today. Makes a person feel ill.
> (So I hope there are a bunch of guys that tell me I'm full of you
> know what and can support their opinion)
>
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
>