Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch

[bumpersbird]

Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the captions.
Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what
the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000
lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our
coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have
class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever
higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen rigs
come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches and
receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an
issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an 8V92
or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as long
as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper brakes,
bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand Prix
GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the
same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no problem
stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would do
it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes,
stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only
problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves the
Bird ", asks what my total combined length is?

You're either on the bus or your not!

Kurt Horvath
Bumpersbird

[Gregory OConnor]

Kurt, the crank case vent system looks like a pro install. I wonder
if use of metalic tube would help keep the oil from building up and
forming a line blockage that leads to crankcase + pressure and seal
damage???????
The metalic tube would heat up ( transfer block heat) and pass oil to
the new filter better. part of the reason the vent hose are not
routed horizontally is because the oil will not drain via gravity
after shut down.
The 8v92 slobber tubes dont vent the crank case they handle a
byproduct of the 2 cycle engine design that the S 60 does not
produce. some 8v92 owners use "crap cans" that collect the slobber
but allow pressure bypass.

there is more crankcase pressure when the engine is cold or when the
owner runs the fan to cool the engine lower than the engineered op
temp in a false scense of operating kindness. The block and pistons
are designed to size at a given temp.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
wrote:
>
> Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the
captions.
> Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what
> the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000
> lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our
> coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have
> class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever
> higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen
rigs
> come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches
and
> receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an
> issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an
8V92
> or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as
long
> as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper
brakes,
> bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand
Prix
> GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the
> same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no
problem
> stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would
do
> it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes,
> stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only
> problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves
the
> Bird ", asks what my total combined length is?
>
> You're either on the bus or your not!
>
> Kurt Horvath
> Bumpersbird
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Thanks for those kind words on my handy work.

I like the idea of using tubing of some sort. I don't know if it would be more
functional, but it would look GREAT!

A blockage is always possible, but the hose is mounted high and I think it has
enough fall in it to prevent any pooling of oil.
I also mounted the entire unit lower than the fresh air intake to make sure it
would be hard for any fluids to get up there. The filter also a valve in it that
regulates and can bypass any unwanted pressure or vacume that may occure.

The existing rubber hose has a heavy wire in it and is quit rigid in the respect
of not being collapsible.
It will flex but in the photo of were the hose exits the filter and routes back
into the fresh air intake pipe, that¢s about as much as it will flex. I think if
we used metal it mite be a wash as to price. The hose kit for the Racor CCV6000
was about $130.00.
I think that's a lot for what you get 8' of hose, 4 clamps and a few heavy
plastic ties. But it was the easiest part of the install.

If you were referring to the oil return to the case. BLUE HOSE there is no
pressure in that line and it retunes the filtered oil back into the case via
gravity. It also has a check valve in the line to prevent any back flow from the
motor or the bulk oil fill. The filter is accessible buy releasing 4 latches
then it drops down. A rigid connection here would not facilitate easy filter
changes. Although at 750 hrs. Filter life it would not really matter. But it
would look cool.

I'm not as up to speed on the 8V92 as to how they are vented, but I do know that
several companies make several different products that will stop or lessen the
amount of oily residue the plagued my coach. One of the hose kits available had
a T in it. I assume that is for a motor with 2 breathers (8V92)??
http://www.dieselboat.com has a lot of discussion on this topic. Some of those guys are
running two and three 8V16's in an enclosed engine room.

It's was not so much the oil covered back end, or my tow was covered in dirt
that was precipitated by a covering of a fine oily mist. But the engine
compartment was always untouchable before a gallon bath of Purple Power and a
pressure hose. All of that stuff ends up on the ground, usually at home,
UNACEPTABLE!!! Hey I'm no saint, but I don't like this crap on the ground
ANYWHERE. Not to mention the fact that it's fire hazard.

It works I have none of the above mention problems any more.



----- Original Message ----
From: Gregory OConnor
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:10:30 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix
Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch

Kurt, the crank case vent system looks like a pro install. I wonder
if use of metalic tube would help keep the oil from building up and
forming a line blockage that leads to crankcase + pressure and seal
damage?????? ?
The metalic tube would heat up ( transfer block heat) and pass oil to
the new filter better. part of the reason the vent hose are not
routed horizontally is because the oil will not drain via gravity
after shut down.
The 8v92 slobber tubes dont vent the crank case they handle a
byproduct of the 2 cycle engine design that the S 60 does not
produce. some 8v92 owners use "crap cans" that collect the slobber
but allow pressure bypass.

there is more crankcase pressure when the engine is cold or when the
owner runs the fan to cool the engine lower than the engineered op
temp in a false scense of operating kindness. The block and pistons
are designed to size at a given temp.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bumpersbird"
wrote:
>
> Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the
captions.
> Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what
> the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000
> lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our
> coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have
> class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever
> higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen
rigs
> come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches
and
> receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an
> issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an
8V92
> or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as
long
> as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper
brakes,
> bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand
Prix
> GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the
> same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no
problem
> stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would
do
> it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes,
> stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only
> problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves
the
> Bird ", asks what my total combined length is?
>
> You're either on the bus or your not!
>
> Kurt Horvath
> Bumpersbird
>






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[Rob Robinson]

Greg I understand what you mean by running the engine too cool by putting
the fan override switch on. But the fan comes on any time you use the dash
air anyways and that's a lot of the time for this northerner when he's down
south.

On 25/08/07, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> Kurt, the crank case vent system looks like a pro install. I wonder
> if use of metalic tube would help keep the oil from building up and
> forming a line blockage that leads to crankcase + pressure and seal
> damage???????
> The metalic tube would heat up ( transfer block heat) and pass oil to
> the new filter better. part of the reason the vent hose are not
> routed horizontally is because the oil will not drain via gravity
> after shut down.
> The 8v92 slobber tubes dont vent the crank case they handle a
> byproduct of the 2 cycle engine design that the S 60 does not
> produce. some 8v92 owners use "crap cans" that collect the slobber
> but allow pressure bypass.
>
> there is more crankcase pressure when the engine is cold or when the
> owner runs the fan to cool the engine lower than the engineered op
> temp in a false scense of operating kindness. The block and pistons
> are designed to size at a given temp.
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "bumpersbird"
> wrote:
> >
> > Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the
> captions.
> > Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what
> > the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000
> > lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our
> > coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have
> > class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever
> > higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen
> rigs
> > come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches
> and
> > receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an
> > issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an
> 8V92
> > or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as
> long
> > as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper
> brakes,
> > bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand
> Prix
> > GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the
> > same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no
> problem
> > stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would
> do
> > it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes,
> > stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only
> > problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves
> the
> > Bird ", asks what my total combined length is?
> >
> > You're either on the bus or your not!
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > Bumpersbird
> >
>
>
>



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Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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