Dead bus... Help!

[krminyl@...]

Are you showing 12V on your DC volt meter? Have you tried hitting the aux
battery switch? Your AT switch in the proper position? Have you tried
starting the BB from the starter switch at the rear of the bus? Tried starting
the
genset, then the bus?

Your BB is 10 yr newer than mine, so I'm not sure if the above would apply
to your BB, but these would be the first things I checked.

Good luck...you'll be back on the road soon...it's probably something simple.

Kevin McKeown
Yorba Linda, CA
1986 38' PT



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[krminyl@...]

Glad it all worked out OK...I knew it has to be something simple!

Kevin Mc
YL CA
86 38 PT



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[Pete Masterson]

Got up this AM _really_ early in Kingman and headed east on I-40.
Uneventful drive for 100+ miles. Stopped in Flagstaff since spouse
wants to visit a national monument nearby. We pulled into a shopping
center parking lot to rest awhile and to unhook the toad --- and
found the battery dead (learned a new lesson). Re-hooked the car to
the coach to drag it over to a service station for a jump AND...

The bus won't start. I flipped the ignition switch ... the buzzers
came on (as usual), then turned to the start position, the starter
motor turned briefly -- then quit. All ignition-related circuits are
dead. No buzzers, no starter, nada...

I checked the load center in the front and the load center in the
back closet. Nothing obvious and no tripped breakers or blown fuses
that I could see. Looked in the engine compartment (back and side)
nothing seems to be out of place. No fried wires.

Is there a master fuse/circuit breaker somewhere? Any ideas.

(I've called for service ... but I'd sure like to understand this
myself, if possible.)

Thanks for any comments.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
Flagstaff, AZ
aeonix1@...

[Leroy Eckert]

In addition, if you have a multi-meter check the battery power. If it is good
look at the ground connections for the battery system. Also, I have had the
rear start switch get out of position and cause a no start problem. It doesn't
take much on my coach.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: krminyl@...
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Dead bus... Help!


Are you showing 12V on your DC volt meter? Have you tried hitting the aux
battery switch? Your AT switch in the proper position? Have you tried
starting the BB from the starter switch at the rear of the bus? Tried starting
the
genset, then the bus?

Your BB is 10 yr newer than mine, so I'm not sure if the above would apply
to your BB, but these would be the first things I checked.

Good luck...you'll be back on the road soon...it's probably something simple.

Kevin McKeown
Yorba Linda, CA
1986 38' PT

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[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Hi Pete:

A couple of questions to consider;
1. What voltage is your dash DC gauge say?
2. Will the Gen set start?

If you have 12.5/13.1 vdc on the gauge, then I would try going to the rear
start switch and try to start form there. If it won't turn, check the
grounds, especially the one between the starter and frame and the starter
and the start solenoid. The rear/off/front toggle switch has been a bad boy
in the past.

Just tossing some ideas, but if the starter gave you 1/2 turn I would put
my money on the ground strap.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma

At 10:14 AM 4/2/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>Got up this AM _really_ early in Kingman and headed east on I-40.
>Uneventful drive for 100+ miles. Stopped in Flagstaff since spouse
>wants to visit a national monument nearby. We pulled into a shopping
>center parking lot to rest awhile and to unhook the toad --- and
>found the battery dead (learned a new lesson). Re-hooked the car to
>the coach to drag it over to a service station for a jump AND...
>
>The bus won't start. I flipped the ignition switch ... the buzzers
>came on (as usual), then turned to the start position, the starter
>motor turned briefly -- then quit. All ignition-related circuits are
>dead. No buzzers, no starter, nada...
>
>I checked the load center in the front and the load center in the
>back closet. Nothing obvious and no tripped breakers or blown fuses
>that I could see. Looked in the engine compartment (back and side)
>nothing seems to be out of place. No fried wires.
>
>Is there a master fuse/circuit breaker somewhere? Any ideas.
>
>(I've called for service ... but I'd sure like to understand this
>myself, if possible.)
>
>Thanks for any comments.
>
>Pete Masterson
>'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>Flagstaff, AZ
>aeonix1@...
>
>
>

[Kevin Ford]

I had the same problem (intermittently) a couple of years back on my
1982 PT-40 and it turned out to be a bad crimp on the battery cable
that runs from the back of the bus to the front load center. You may
not have the same configuration on the newer machine, but it's worth
checking the main battery feed if you can find where it connects.

Kevin Ford
1982 PT-40
Richmond TX


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Got up this AM _really_ early in Kingman and headed east on I-40.
> Uneventful drive for 100+ miles. Stopped in Flagstaff since spouse
> wants to visit a national monument nearby. We pulled into a
shopping
> center parking lot to rest awhile and to unhook the toad --- and
> found the battery dead (learned a new lesson). Re-hooked the car
to
> the coach to drag it over to a service station for a jump AND...
>
> The bus won't start. I flipped the ignition switch ... the buzzers
> came on (as usual), then turned to the start position, the starter
> motor turned briefly -- then quit. All ignition-related circuits
are
> dead. No buzzers, no starter, nada...
>
> I checked the load center in the front and the load center in the
> back closet. Nothing obvious and no tripped breakers or blown
fuses
> that I could see. Looked in the engine compartment (back and side)
> nothing seems to be out of place. No fried wires.
>
> Is there a master fuse/circuit breaker somewhere? Any ideas.
>
> (I've called for service ... but I'd sure like to understand this
> myself, if possible.)
>
> Thanks for any comments.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> Flagstaff, AZ
> aeonix1@...
>

[Pete Masterson]

Larry ... you win the gold star! That was it ... bad ground.

Thanks.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> In addition, if you have a multi-meter check the battery power. If
> it is good look at the ground connections for the battery system.
> Also, I have had the rear start switch get out of position and
> cause a no start problem. It doesn't take much on my coach.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: krminyl@...
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Dead bus... Help!
>
>
> Are you showing 12V on your DC volt meter? Have you tried hitting
> the aux
> battery switch? Your AT switch in the proper position? Have you
> tried
> starting the BB from the starter switch at the rear of the bus?
> Tried starting the
> genset, then the bus?
>
> Your BB is 10 yr newer than mine, so I'm not sure if the above
> would apply
> to your BB, but these would be the first things I checked.
>
> Good luck...you'll be back on the road soon...it's probably
> something simple.
>
> Kevin McKeown
> Yorba Linda, CA
> 1986 38' PT
>
> ************************************** See what's free at http://
> http://www.aol.com.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

[Pete Masterson]

Another winner! I owe some folks a case of beer.

Thanks.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Ralph L. Fullenwider wrote:

> Hi Pete:
>
> A couple of questions to consider;
> 1. What voltage is your dash DC gauge say?
> 2. Will the Gen set start?
>
> If you have 12.5/13.1 vdc on the gauge, then I would try going to
> the rear
> start switch and try to start form there. If it won't turn, check the
> grounds, especially the one between the starter and frame and the
> starter
> and the start solenoid. The rear/off/front toggle switch has been a
> bad boy
> in the past.
>
> Just tossing some ideas, but if the starter gave you 1/2 turn I
> would put
> my money on the ground strap.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
>
> At 10:14 AM 4/2/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>> Got up this AM _really_ early in Kingman and headed east on I-40.
>> Uneventful drive for 100+ miles. Stopped in Flagstaff since spouse
>> wants to visit a national monument nearby. We pulled into a shopping
>> center parking lot to rest awhile and to unhook the toad --- and
>> found the battery dead (learned a new lesson). Re-hooked the car to
>> the coach to drag it over to a service station for a jump AND...
>>
>> The bus won't start. I flipped the ignition switch ... the buzzers
>> came on (as usual), then turned to the start position, the starter
>> motor turned briefly -- then quit. All ignition-related circuits are
>> dead. No buzzers, no starter, nada...
>>
>> I checked the load center in the front and the load center in the
>> back closet. Nothing obvious and no tripped breakers or blown fuses
>> that I could see. Looked in the engine compartment (back and side)
>> nothing seems to be out of place. No fried wires.
>>
>> Is there a master fuse/circuit breaker somewhere? Any ideas.
>>
>> (I've called for service ... but I'd sure like to understand this
>> myself, if possible.)
>>
>> Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> Flagstaff, AZ
>> aeonix1@...
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[Leroy Eckert]

Have a good trip. How is the car battery?

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL



----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Dead bus... Help!


Larry ... you win the gold star! That was it ... bad ground.

Thanks.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...

On Apr 2, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> In addition, if you have a multi-meter check the battery power. If
> it is good look at the ground connections for the battery system.
> Also, I have had the rear start switch get out of position and
> cause a no start problem. It doesn't take much on my coach.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: krminyl@...
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Dead bus... Help!
>
>
> Are you showing 12V on your DC volt meter? Have you tried hitting
> the aux
> battery switch? Your AT switch in the proper position? Have you
> tried
> starting the BB from the starter switch at the rear of the bus?
> Tried starting the
> genset, then the bus?
>
> Your BB is 10 yr newer than mine, so I'm not sure if the above
> would apply
> to your BB, but these would be the first things I checked.
>
> Good luck...you'll be back on the road soon...it's probably
> something simple.
>
> Kevin McKeown
> Yorba Linda, CA
> 1986 38' PT
>
> ************************************** See what's free at http://
> http://www.aol.com.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>





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[ronmarabito2002]

I would have suggested starting the generator and allowing the
chargers to bring up the batteries well enough for a start, but you
couldn't do that either if both the chassis and house batteries are
dead. I'd have the batteries checked. You probably have a bad one,
or (god for bid) your alternators are not putting out.

Good luck. Let us know what you find.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Got up this AM _really_ early in Kingman and headed east on I-40.
> Uneventful drive for 100+ miles. Stopped in Flagstaff since spouse
> wants to visit a national monument nearby. We pulled into a shopping
> center parking lot to rest awhile and to unhook the toad --- and
> found the battery dead (learned a new lesson). Re-hooked the car to
> the coach to drag it over to a service station for a jump AND...
>
> The bus won't start. I flipped the ignition switch ... the buzzers
> came on (as usual), then turned to the start position, the starter
> motor turned briefly -- then quit. All ignition-related circuits are
> dead. No buzzers, no starter, nada...
>
> I checked the load center in the front and the load center in the
> back closet. Nothing obvious and no tripped breakers or blown fuses
> that I could see. Looked in the engine compartment (back and side)
> nothing seems to be out of place. No fried wires.
>
> Is there a master fuse/circuit breaker somewhere? Any ideas.
>
> (I've called for service ... but I'd sure like to understand this
> myself, if possible.)
>
> Thanks for any comments.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> Flagstaff, AZ
> aeonix1@...
>