Update on loss of Turbo Boost and check Transmission light

[Bob & Carol Howald`]

I disagree, I think this topic is very suitable for the forum. If
we get repairs on the road, how do we react to various senario's that
come up with regards to quality of work provided. It provide's a
couple different points of view that need to be incorperated in one's
decision on weather to pay protest or simply remain silent and accept
what happens.
As long as there is no name calling and civility prevail's with
no obvious attempts to intimidate anyone I think it's appropriate.
It's obvious that it has member's thinking about this problem which
we'll all face at one time or another with our bird's.

Bob 93pt40 Illinois (warming up)
anderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst" wrote:
>
> DanD,
>
> this has turned into a spittin match, I'd leave it alone.
>
> you boys need to take this crap somewhere else, this forum is not
> about this
>
> Later
> JDarst
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Darst"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey I'll take 50% back on my cell phone charges, what a scam.
> >
> > dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil.
> > how bout Arthur Anderson and Enron
> >
> > >From: "ac7880"
> > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Update on loss of Turbo Boost
and
> check
> > >Transmission light
> > >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:07:55 -0000
> > >
> > >Well Tom, If I demand 100 percent satisfaction for every dollar
I
> > >spend, then the IRS and US government owes me back every dollar I
> > >ever paid in US taxes. I am not 100% satisifed with how my
money
> was
> > >spent.
> > >
> > >I also have some investments on the stock market where I was not
> > >satisfied - I want all my money back there.
> > >
> > >Then there was one motorcycle and 2 new cars where I was not
> happy -
> > >I'll settle for 50 percent back there as I had some use, though
> not
> > >meeting my level of expectation.
> > >
> > >I purchased some tough steaks over the years - I'll take back 25%
> > >there. Some potatoes I purchased went bad - I want 20% back
> there.
> > >
> > >I have had some problems on air line flights over the years -
I'll
> > >settle for 30% back there.
> > >
> > >The medical system mis-diagnosed my wife 3 times before we fixed
> the
> > >problem - I want 100 percent back there plus pain and suffering -
> > >hell I'll just sue them for 3 million dollars like others have
> done,
> > >and every other person in need of medical treatment can pay
higher
> > >medical fees to cover our gain on that one.
> > >
> > >In your years in USAF Civil Engineering I am sure you made some
> > >errors - please submit a check to the US treasory to cover your
> wages
> > >you were paid while making those errors - plus interest of
course.
> > >You did make at least SOME errors - though you were working in
> good
> > >faith?
> > >
> > >People work in good faith - and get paid for good faith efforts.
> > >Most of the time it works out. .
> > >
> > >Dan
> > >\
> > >
> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
> > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Doug sounds like we have a disagreement here and in my
opinion
> one
> > >of
> > > > the reasons we have a few bad service areas that can get away
> with
> > > > poor service. And notice that I said a few. I dont
understand
> your
> > > > rationale Doug when you say "time was spent, labor was done,
> the
> > > > problem was not fixed", then what are you paying them for? I
> am
> > > > going to pay $90-$110 an hour for expert services to NOT fix a
> > > > problem now? Dont think so.
> > > > I stick by my previous statement, if you cant do the work get
> out
> > >of
> > > > the business. If they advertise diesel and allison
transmission
> > > > service then they should have the equipment, skills and parts
> to
> > >fix them.
> > > >
> > > > tom warner
> > > > vernon center,ny
> > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 10:09 PM 12/8/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >FWIW, Speaking as a repair shop owner, time was spent, labor
> was
> > > > >done, the problem was not fixed. I feel that the previous
> shops
> > >are
> > > > >due something for their time. Maybe some refund is due,
maybe
> not,
> > >I
> > > > >don't know what they charged. It sounds like the problem is
> not a
> > > > >simple one, so missed diagnosis is not hard to understand. I
> feel
> > > > >for Julie, the frustration of being stuck, spending money
and
> not
> > > > >getting the results you expected and spending more money is
> no fun
> > > > >to say the least, but we cannot expect these complicated
> machines
> > >to
> > > > >always be easy to fix. More often than not, I find elusive
> > >problems
> > > > >to be multi-faceted, and while the actual repair may be easy
> and
> > > > >quick, finding the problem may be difficult and time
> consuming.
> > > > >Certianly we can't expect service facilities to only get
paid
> for
> > > > >the problems they fix, and not for the time it takes to
> diagnose
> > >the
> > > > >problem? At least the most recent shop knows what has been
> tried
> > >and
> > > > >didn't work, that alone is worth something.
> > > > > I've been to my doctor 3 times with an aching elbow
and
> it
> > > > > still aches, but I have to keep paying for him to look at
it.
> > > > > I just hope they get it figured out and Julie and crew
> can
> > >get
> > > > > on with their travels.
> > > > > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO, 1981 FC35SB, "Pokey"
> > > > >
> > > > >ac7880 wrote:
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > >Perhaps you are jumping the starter gun? How can they demand
> a 100%
> > > > >refund from previous shops until the problem is actually
> proven to
> > >be
> > > > >solved with a simple new air filter replacement?
> > > > >
> > > > >What if they demand refunds, and the last shop's fix is not
> the
> > >final
> > > > >solution?
> > > > >
> > > > >Do they then refund the refund?
> > > > >
> > > > >Let them get a fix that proves out in the long haul before
> pointing
> > > > >fingers at previous shops and demanding money back. Maybe
the
> 3rd
> > > > >shops diagnosis is correct--or maybe not. 3 opinions thus
> far -
> > > > >which one is right? The one that solves the problem over the
> next
> > > > >30 days and multiple miles is likely the right one.
> > > > >
> > > > >As for me, I would never "immediately contact both shops
> > > > >for a 100% refund", until it was proven beyond a boubt they
> were
> > >both
> > > > >wrong - and even then I would cut slack for the hours they
> expended
> > > > >in good faith to help me solve the problem when I needed
help.
> > > > >
> > > > >Dan
> > > > >94 BMC 37'
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Julie if I were in your place I would immediately contact
> both
> > > > >shops
> > > > > > for a 100% refund once you get the bill. If you have the
> number
> > >off
> > > > > > the old filter go to this site and plug it in with no
> > > > > > dashes. http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp
> then go
> > > > > > to http://www.filter1.com and get the phone number and the
> chances are
> > > > >they
> > > > > > will have one in stock.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tom warner
> > > > > > vernon center,ny
> > > > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 10:44 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > > >We arrived in front of Stewart and Stevenson at 10 p.m.
> last
> > >night.
> > > > > > >They said they would take a preliminary look today. From
> our
> > > > > > >description of the problem and what work had been done
> they
> > >thought
> > > > > > >that the issue was on the engine side of the equation.
> What
> > >they
> > > > > > >found was the air filter was full. Now they are trying to
> > >locate a
> > > > > > >filter to fit. They have phoned Bluebird but did not get
> an
> > >answer
> > > > > > >today. He hoped for a call back tomorrow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >After they put in the air filter they will test the
> system to
> > >see
> > > > >if
> > > > > > >the problem is resolved. Now it really is aggravating to
> have
> > >to
> > > > >pay
> > > > > > >3 shops to troubleshoot a problem when the first shop
> should
> > >have
> > > > > > >found the problem. United Engines in Oklahoma City told
us
> > >that we
> > > > > > >had about 50% left on our air filter. They were wrong and
> > > > > > >consequently we had a transmission shop try to find the
> > >problem. I
> > > > > > >guess it is a good thing to have all our ground
> connections
> > >made
> > > > > > >secure but it was not the cause.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >So does Bluebird work on Friday. Does anyone know what
air
> > >filter
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >1992 WLWB 40' PT 8V92 uses?
> > > > > > >If S & S can obtain a filter we could possibly be on our
> way
> > >to our
> > > > > > >winter abode.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for all the advice and support. The camaraderie
of
> > >these
> > > > > > >lists is truly wonderful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Julie Bonser
> > > > > > >1992 WLWB PT 40'
> > > > > > >El Paso, TX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > >Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey"
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