Update on loss of Turbo Boost and check Transmission light

[Julia Bonser]

The third shop based their diagnosis on their preliminary assessment,
they cannot complete the assessment until after the air filter is
changed. They also listened to the explanation of the problem and
asked questions to help them identify the likely problem area. They
tell us from the description the problem is likely on the engine side
rather than the transmission. They have the tools to examine the DDEC
and the transmission codes.

Based on our description two place have said that it sounds like
there was not enough air getting through for proper combustion to
take place hence the decline in the turbo boost which usually took
place on uphill inclines.

I don't understand why you think it is not the air filter as a
component of the problem. I am not negating the fuel filters or
problems with the ground connections. All 3 are necessary for proper
functioning.
I feel like there have been blind men examining the elephant.

Julie Bonser
1992 WLWB PT 40'
El Paso, TX


On Dec 8, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

> Dan, I'm with you and still dont believe it is the AirFilter. The
> third shop baced their diagnosis on the documented tasks of the other
> shops. Its kinda a "well if they ruled out A and B then lets look at
> C. It is always the last thing you do that corrects the problem, why
> go any farther. Ground connections are just one link that are a
> reasonable place for a problem. Ground wires and straps are less
> likely and harder to detect.
>
> Tom has a point also; aim high, it don't hurt to ask, squeeky wheel,
> etc. A customer once asked for a refund on my labor so I just brought
> their driveway back. He still was'nt happy.
>
> GregoryO'Connor
>
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ac7880"
> wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Perhaps you are jumping the starter gun? How can they demand a
> 100%
>> refund from previous shops until the problem is actually proven to
> be
>> solved with a simple new air filter replacement?
>>
>> What if they demand refunds, and the last shop's fix is not the
> final
>> solution?
>>
>> Do they then refund the refund?
>>
>> Let them get a fix that proves out in the long haul before pointing
>> fingers at previous shops and demanding money back. Maybe the 3rd
>> shops diagnosis is correct--or maybe not. 3 opinions thus far -
>> which one is right? The one that solves the problem over the
> next
>> 30 days and multiple miles is likely the right one.
>>
>> As for me, I would never "immediately contact both shops
>> for a 100% refund", until it was proven beyond a boubt they were
> both
>> wrong - and even then I would cut slack for the hours they expended
>> in good faith to help me solve the problem when I needed help.
>>
>> Dan
>> 94 BMC 37'
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Julie if I were in your place I would immediately contact both
>> shops
>>> for a 100% refund once you get the bill. If you have the number
> off
>>> the old filter go to this site and plug it in with no
>>> dashes. http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp then
> go
>>> to http://www.filter1.com and get the phone number and the chances are
>> they
>>> will have one in stock.
>>>
>>> tom warner
>>> vernon center,ny
>>> 1985 PT 40
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:44 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote:
>>>> We arrived in front of Stewart and Stevenson at 10 p.m. last
> night.
>>>> They said they would take a preliminary look today. From our
>>>> description of the problem and what work had been done they
> thought
>>>> that the issue was on the engine side of the equation. What they
>>>> found was the air filter was full. Now they are trying to locate
> a
>>>> filter to fit. They have phoned Bluebird but did not get an
> answer
>>>> today. He hoped for a call back tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> After they put in the air filter they will test the system to
> see
>> if
>>>> the problem is resolved. Now it really is aggravating to have to
>> pay
>>>> 3 shops to troubleshoot a problem when the first shop should have
>>>> found the problem. United Engines in Oklahoma City told us that
> we
>>>> had about 50% left on our air filter. They were wrong and
>>>> consequently we had a transmission shop try to find the problem.
> I
>>>> guess it is a good thing to have all our ground connections made
>>>> secure but it was not the cause.
>>>>
>>>> So does Bluebird work on Friday. Does anyone know what air
> filter
>> the
>>>> 1992 WLWB 40' PT 8V92 uses?
>>>> If S & S can obtain a filter we could possibly be on our way to
> our
>>>> winter abode.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the advice and support. The camaraderie of
> these
>>>> lists is truly wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> Julie Bonser
>>>> 1992 WLWB PT 40'
>>>> El Paso, TX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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