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Unique Bluebird
08-29-2006, 05:38
Post: #1
Unique Bluebird
It never fails to amaze me what some people decide to do with $100K,
rather than just go out and buy a used Wanderlodge.....

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Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX
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08-29-2006, 07:32
Post: #2
Unique Bluebird
I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would consider 40
grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the prison
bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a skoolie.
That's with Progressive/Aon.
MH
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird


It never fails to amaze me what some people decide to do with $100K,
rather than just go out and buy a used Wanderlodge.....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-BLUE...-INVE\
STED_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50056QQihZ012QQitemZ220021390697QQrdZ1

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX





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08-31-2006, 08:17
Post: #3
Unique Bluebird
I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
school bus conversions?

-Ryan

On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would consider 40
grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the prison
bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a skoolie.
That's with Progressive/Aon.
> MH
>
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08-31-2006, 11:19
Post: #4
Unique Bluebird
Hobbyist bus converters sometimes make unfortunate mistakes with electrical and
LP plumbing installations that have caused fires leading to death. Insurance
companies don't like that stuff. Any DIY conversion will have a big problem
getting coverage. My toter home conversion is such an animal, I only get
coverage through my corporate entity, no way could I get it personally.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Wright
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird


I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
school bus conversions?

-Ryan

On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would consider 40
grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the prison
bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a skoolie.
That's with Progressive/Aon.
> MH
>




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09-01-2006, 12:09
Post: #5
Unique Bluebird
Mike,
I give-up! After seeing you refer to your "toter" home many times I just
had to ask what is it?

- Chuck Wheeler -
82 FC 31 SB
Fort Worth, TX


_____

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:19 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird



Hobbyist bus converters sometimes make unfortunate mistakes with electrical
and LP plumbing installations that have caused fires leading to death.
Insurance companies don't like that stuff. Any DIY conversion will have a
big problem getting coverage. My toter home conversion is such an animal, I
only get coverage through my corporate entity, no way could I get it
personally.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Wright
To: WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird

I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
school bus conversions?

-Ryan

On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@wi. <mailto:MHOHNSTEIN%40wi.rr.com>
rr.com> wrote:
>
> I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would consider
40 grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the
prison bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a
skoolie. That's with Progressive/Aon.
> MH
>

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09-01-2006, 12:35
Post: #6
Unique Bluebird
Class 7 truck with a type C 16' lounge and a 8 X 8 rear deck that doubles as a
flat bed. It can tote a goose neck or a 5th wheel. You have seen them, usually
hauling some kind of big race car trailer. Mine is home built on a Ford
Louisville L8000 chassis, 260" wb, 30' over all length. I have used it to learn
all about how to make a 3208 run. I'll send Bluriss an image, it might make
bird of the week.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Wheeler
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird


Mike,
I give-up! After seeing you refer to your "toter" home many times I just
had to ask what is it?

- Chuck Wheeler -
82 FC 31 SB
Fort Worth, TX


_____

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:19 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird

Hobbyist bus converters sometimes make unfortunate mistakes with electrical
and LP plumbing installations that have caused fires leading to death.
Insurance companies don't like that stuff. Any DIY conversion will have a
big problem getting coverage. My toter home conversion is such an animal, I
only get coverage through my corporate entity, no way could I get it
personally.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Wright
To: WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird

I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
school bus conversions?

-Ryan

On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@wi. <mailto:MHOHNSTEIN%40wi.rr.com>
rr.com> wrote:
>
> I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would consider
40 grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the
prison bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a
skoolie. That's with Progressive/Aon.
> MH
>

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09-01-2006, 18:45
Post: #7
Unique Bluebird
Mike,
Please do that. Bird or not, I'm interested!

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Mike Hohnstein wrote:

> Class 7 truck with a type C 16' lounge and a 8 X 8 rear deck that
> doubles as a flat bed. It can tote a goose neck or a 5th wheel. You
> have seen them, usually hauling some kind of big race car trailer.
> Mine is home built on a Ford Louisville L8000 chassis, 260" wb, 30'
> over all length. I have used it to learn all about how to make a 3208
> run. I'll send Bluriss an image, it might make bird of the week.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Mike,
> I give-up! After seeing you refer to your "toter" home many times I just
> had to ask what is it?
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
> 82 FC 31 SB
> Fort Worth, TX
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Hobbyist bus converters sometimes make unfortunate mistakes with
> electrical
> and LP plumbing installations that have caused fires leading to death.
> Insurance companies don't like that stuff. Any DIY conversion will have a
> big problem getting coverage. My toter home conversion is such an
> animal, I
> only get coverage through my corporate entity, no way could I get it
> personally.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Wright
> To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
> school bus conversions?
>
> -Ryan
>
> On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@wi. <mailto:MHOHNSTEIN%40wi.rr.com>
> rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would
> consider
> 40 grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the
> prison bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a
> skoolie. That's with Progressive/Aon.
> > MH
> >
>
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09-02-2006, 02:50
Post: #8
Unique Bluebird
Mike:
How much HP did you say that you are pushing out of that 3208? If I remember,
it was quite a bit more than what the BB's put out. You got some pics etc. of
the engine part of the toter as well?

Bill
84FC35SB

Curt Sprenger wrote:
Mike,
Please do that. Bird or not, I'm interested!

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

Mike Hohnstein wrote:

> Class 7 truck with a type C 16' lounge and a 8 X 8 rear deck that
> doubles as a flat bed. It can tote a goose neck or a 5th wheel. You
> have seen them, usually hauling some kind of big race car trailer.
> Mine is home built on a Ford Louisville L8000 chassis, 260" wb, 30'
> over all length. I have used it to learn all about how to make a 3208
> run. I'll send Bluriss an image, it might make bird of the week.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Mike,
> I give-up! After seeing you refer to your "toter" home many times I just
> had to ask what is it?
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
> 82 FC 31 SB
> Fort Worth, TX
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Hobbyist bus converters sometimes make unfortunate mistakes with
> electrical
> and LP plumbing installations that have caused fires leading to death.
> Insurance companies don't like that stuff. Any DIY conversion will have a
> big problem getting coverage. My toter home conversion is such an
> animal, I
> only get coverage through my corporate entity, no way could I get it
> personally.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Wright
> To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
> school bus conversions?
>
> -Ryan
>
> On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@wi. <mailto:MHOHNSTEIN%40wi.rr.com>
> rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would
> consider
> 40 grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the
> prison bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a
> skoolie. That's with Progressive/Aon.
> > MH
> >
>
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09-03-2006, 13:32
Post: #9
Unique Bluebird
The toter engine is over bored, 3 ring update, roller cam update, NEW CAT head
bolts, balanced assembly, 375hp marine injectors, 9Y 1344 turbo available from
Cat. Best operation speed 1600-2150 rpm. Ideal cruise 1800 as oil and water
temps are happy there. The radiator and charge air cooler are speced for a 350
L-10 Cummins, plenty good for the 3208 however cooling is marginal on hard
climbs in very hot weather.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird


Mike:
How much HP did you say that you are pushing out of that 3208? If I remember,
it was quite a bit more than what the BB's put out. You got some pics etc. of
the engine part of the toter as well?

Bill
84FC35SB

Curt Sprenger wrote:
Mike,
Please do that. Bird or not, I'm interested!

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

Mike Hohnstein wrote:

> Class 7 truck with a type C 16' lounge and a 8 X 8 rear deck that
> doubles as a flat bed. It can tote a goose neck or a 5th wheel. You
> have seen them, usually hauling some kind of big race car trailer.
> Mine is home built on a Ford Louisville L8000 chassis, 260" wb, 30'
> over all length. I have used it to learn all about how to make a 3208
> run. I'll send Bluriss an image, it might make bird of the week.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Mike,
> I give-up! After seeing you refer to your "toter" home many times I just
> had to ask what is it?
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
> 82 FC 31 SB
> Fort Worth, TX
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Hobbyist bus converters sometimes make unfortunate mistakes with
> electrical
> and LP plumbing installations that have caused fires leading to death.
> Insurance companies don't like that stuff. Any DIY conversion will have a
> big problem getting coverage. My toter home conversion is such an
> animal, I
> only get coverage through my corporate entity, no way could I get it
> personally.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Wright
> To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
> school bus conversions?
>
> -Ryan
>
> On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@wi. <mailto:MHOHNSTEIN%40wi.rr.com>
> rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would
> consider
> 40 grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the
> prison bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a
> skoolie. That's with Progressive/Aon.
> > MH
> >
>
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09-04-2006, 09:32
Post: #10
Unique Bluebird
Mike;
Wow, now that is what you call an overhaul. I see you have an 83 BB, what
kind of changes have you done to the engine? I bought a 84FC with a 3208 TA.
What advice do you have for driving in the mountains, what RPM's should one
try to keep the engine at, also with the Allison 643, should one downshift
before the transmission does it itself.
I see in one of your earlier posts about turbo boost should be about 15 and
pyro temp not to exceed 1100.

Thanks
Bill 84FC35SB
Terrace, B.C.

Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
The toter engine is over bored, 3 ring update, roller cam update, NEW
CAT head bolts, balanced assembly, 375hp marine injectors, 9Y 1344 turbo
available from Cat. Best operation speed 1600-2150 rpm. Ideal cruise 1800 as oil
and water temps are happy there. The radiator and charge air cooler are speced
for a 350 L-10 Cummins, plenty good for the 3208 however cooling is marginal on
hard climbs in very hot weather.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird

Mike:
How much HP did you say that you are pushing out of that 3208? If I remember, it
was quite a bit more than what the BB's put out. You got some pics etc. of the
engine part of the toter as well?

Bill
84FC35SB

Curt Sprenger wrote:
Mike,
Please do that. Bird or not, I'm interested!

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

Mike Hohnstein wrote:

> Class 7 truck with a type C 16' lounge and a 8 X 8 rear deck that
> doubles as a flat bed. It can tote a goose neck or a 5th wheel. You
> have seen them, usually hauling some kind of big race car trailer.
> Mine is home built on a Ford Louisville L8000 chassis, 260" wb, 30'
> over all length. I have used it to learn all about how to make a 3208
> run. I'll send Bluriss an image, it might make bird of the week.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Mike,
> I give-up! After seeing you refer to your "toter" home many times I just
> had to ask what is it?
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
> 82 FC 31 SB
> Fort Worth, TX
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Mike Hohnstein
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> Hobbyist bus converters sometimes make unfortunate mistakes with
> electrical
> and LP plumbing installations that have caused fires leading to death.
> Insurance companies don't like that stuff. Any DIY conversion will have a
> big problem getting coverage. My toter home conversion is such an
> animal, I
> only get coverage through my corporate entity, no way could I get it
> personally.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Wright
> To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Unique Bluebird
>
> I'm obviously new and naive, but why won't insurance companies insure
> school bus conversions?
>
> -Ryan
>
> On 8/29/06, Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@wi. <mailto:MHOHNSTEIN%40wi.rr.com>
> rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in awe, at the chutzpah of the person who feels anyone would
> consider
> 40 grand for such a mess. Wow. An uninsurable mess at that. When I put the
> prison bus on my policy, they wanted a picture of it to verify it wasn't a
> skoolie. That's with Progressive/Aon.
> > MH
> >
>
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