80 bird with 3208 cat keeps stalling - PLEASE help

[John Stiles]

Actually no. Not on a 1980, at least none that I have seen. The
1980 did not have a water seperator or an air dryer either. I
assume these were added in '81 or '82?

John Stiles
1980 33FC
"My Navion"


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes"
<mrbeebody@n...> wrote:
> So there is a water seperator at the rear of the engine that I
> didn't even notice when removing the fuel filter a dozen times?
>
> huh.
>
> I figured the one at the LP bay was the only one.
>
> Let me know,
>
> John
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "samax8"
> wrote:
> > -I agree with everyone else that you may have contaminated fuel.
> But
> > these old cats seem to run with pretty bad fuel so try the
simple
> > things first. I beleive you have an air leak. I had a very
similar
> > situation with the engine stalling but running and starting with
> > starter fluid. Turns out a newly replaced water seperator had a
> bad
> > seal and was allowing air to be sucked in. Replaced the
seperator
> > and everything was fine. I could see air bubbles in the glass
bowl
> > of the water seperator. Check yours if you can keep the engine
> > running for a few minutes. The water seperator is located at the
> top
> > rear of the engine.
> >
> > Bill
> > 82FC33
> >
> > -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Adria Haynes"
> > <mrbeebody@n...> wrote:
> > > Gurus,
> > >
> > > I had been here for a while, took a break, but have been
lurking
> > > again
> > > for a while. I NEED HELP!
> > >
> > > What I have is a Wanderlodge 35fc with a newer 3208 Cat. We
just
> > > used it last month for a long weekend that was 2 hours away
and
> > > everything went excellent. We started the trip with 1/4 tank,
> > > filled up, and had 1/2 tank when the trip was over - which how
> it
> > > has sat for the past
> > > month.
> > >
> > > I fired it up for a few minutes on Thursday night to make sure
we
> > > were ready to rock for the long weekend. After getting
> everything
> > > ready to head out - it wouldn't stay running. Per advice from
> > > friends and family, I changed the fuel filter at the back of
the
> > > motor with a brand new one that was FULL of fuel. I also
changed
> > out
> > > the water seperator and filter under the LP compartment door.
I
> > > removed, refilled, and reinstalled the engine bay fuel filter
a
> > > number of times. Each time priming it with the primer.
> > >
> > > After removing the air filter, the bus would start and run if
I
> > shot
> > > and kept shooting starting fluid down the intake. After a
> while,
> > it
> > > seemed to be able to sustain on its own. I had to keep the
> > throttle
> > > pulled back to keep it idling a little over 1200. While the
> tach
> > > indicated steady RPM's, the cloud out the back indicated
> > sputtering
> > > within. Again, after a while it would run on its own, seem to
> run
> > > well, but not for long before it would start to sputter. At
> that
> > > point, I would remove the new fuel filter and find it to be
only
> > > about 1/4 full of fuel - making me to believe that it died
when
> > the
> > > fuel filter ran out of fuel. When removing the new filter, at
> the
> > > point when the seal breaks, it gives out that "shtook" popping
> > sound
> > > as though it were under heavy suction.
> > >
> > > Another interesting thing is that after having been run, I
would
> > > turn the valve on the water seperator. Not only would the
> liquids
> > > not just stream out - it would "burble and chug" out the
bottom
> > but
> > > only do so after it looked like it sucked air IN - as though
> there
> > > were a natural vacuum.
> > >
> > > After having the vacation already wrecked, I need to focus on
> > > getting it back up and running again ASAP. I read a post on
the
> > > vintagebirds.com site in which a gentleman indicated that he
had
> an
> > > 81 with a 1/2 tank that acted like he was out of fuel and that
> he
> > > added more fuel and it behaved as long as he kept it above the
> 1/2
> > > tank level until he did something with a 1/4" copper line.
> > >
> > > I'm unclear as to what he did to fix it and cannot contact him.
> > >
> > > Is it a common problem for a bird such as mine to ALL OF A
> SUDDEN
> > > act like it has a heavy fuel restriction or act like its out
of
> > > gas? My uncle seems to think its acting like it's sucking air
> > into
> > > the line or there is a restriction.
> > >
> > > Please help, I'm desperate. Any help, suggestions, or
anything
> > > would be HUGELY appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks, John in Flint.