Post Reply 
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
BB Direct Sales info
05-10-2006, 10:46
Post: #27
BB Direct Sales info
Thanks Tom. Your suggestions were forwarded and received in a very
positive light. We may be on the road to a very healthy relationship
with Wanderlodge and that sure couldn't hurt at all. I think
management is much more receptive now to suggestions to improve the
product, production, service and marketing.

Thank you again.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> Since Ron brought this up I guess I should extend the courtesy to him
> he extended to me and reply. I did send Ron some suggestions that I
> believe could make a difference for all of us and certainly the
> factory. It doesnt matter what year coach you own, when people buy a
> new Bluebird they normally trade in their old one and it is recycled
> to another Bluebird owner wishing to move up. I believe this is a
> very important aspect of ownership that Bluebird recognizes. Its
> called brand loyalty. You have positive feelings about owning your
> Bluebird and you wish to buy a newer one after a few years.
>
> I early on took a very personal interest in Bluebird after buying the
> 1982 FC35, and on the way home from buying it in Houston, Texas,
> stopping at Fort Valley, touring the factory and the Birds Nest and
> witnessing many of the different procedures in building and
> supporting a bluebird...and Bluebird owners. The personnel there were
> superb and gave me absolutely no indication that they valued a
> customer with a 20 plus year old coach any less then a owner of a new
> one. That is a very different concept then other motorhome owners get
> primarily since very few other 1982 motorhomes are on the road.
> Bluebird should keep capitalizing on this. I have sat down and
> talked to Bennie Collier many times, as I have with Ray Horne and
> many others at Bluebird, each and every one of them had vast
> corporate knowledge that I found invaluable. Each and everyone of
> them is not only courteous but helpful beyond anything that I could
> have imagined. I obtained all of the engineering drawings for the
> 1982 within days of purchasing it, and did the same while going thru
> Fort Vally on the way home from purchasing the 1985 PT 40.
>
> Contrary to what some may believe there is very little difference
> between many of the Bluebird motorhome products as I was to find out
> later, as it relates to suspensions, engines, transmissions, shocks,
> body panels, glass etc. I am fortunate to have a database of Bluebird
> products that includes school buses, tour buses, transit buses and of
> course Bluebird Wanderlodges, that very quickly allows me to search
> for a specific part and tell me all of the Bluebird products that it
> is used on. You would be amazed at how many parts used on a 2004 LXI
> are used on school buses, tour buses etc. Its a nice thing to have
> when you are trying to restore a Bluebird for I can quickly buy parts
> from any Bluebird Schoolbus, transit bus etc dealer if Fort Vally
> doesnt have it. For example the Bluebird TC2000 school bus
> windshield is the same one used on my 1982 FC35, exactly the same
> right down to the top tint, and the school bus mechanics near me are
> very proficient at working on the forward controls. When I had the
> accident with the 1982 in Nashville, Tennesse , Bluebird parts did
> not have the new battery door and front drivers panel, as they no
> longer stocked them. However the local Bluebird School bus dealer
> about 15 miles from me had a compete fabrication metal shop and made
> the new panels for it, repaired the damage, painted it, and made it
> as good as new. With all of these school bus and tour bus dealers
> Bluebird has nationwide, doesnt it make sense to use them to servide
> the Wanderlodges of any year? Bluebird could have the largest dealer
> network of any motorhome manufacturer.
>
> There are different things I covered in the email to Ron but I am
> sure many of you have many many more ideas based on your experiences
> with your Bluebird. If you honestly want to see them survive then
> now is the time to try and help.
>
> Tom Warner
> Vernon Center,NY
> 1985 PT 40
>
>
> (
>
>
> At 01:00 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote:
> >O.K. Guys. Let's keep this friendly and not personal. As a matter of
> >information: Tom did send me some positive suggestions this evening
> >and they all were valid. I asked Tom to post them to start a dialogue.
> >
> >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > thats why the systems are multiplexed they follow an industry
standard
> > > for ease of repair one or two diagnostic ports to access all the
> > > electrical systems.The information bus on the 450 can be
accessed from
> > > the outside of the coach if need be. The canbus is industry standard
> > > for almost all heavy vehicles do a search and read and learn
> > > Tom wake up and smell the diesel it is easier to diagnose a
problem on
> > > a 450 than it ever was on a older lxi.
> > > quit ragging on how good the old were and how simple it was and how
> > > bad Bluebird is. It is not 1985 anymore
> > > At the risk of being booted by the moderators either put up or
shut up
> > > nuff said
> > > Stephen 77fc35
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David you have a 2002 LXI , its a beautiful coach and complicated
> > > > from the aspect of the many redundant systems and lots of work to
> > > > keep it running at its peak. The engine and transmission
should be no
> > > > problem since it is used by many other over the road trucks and
> > > > buses. But honestly how many repair facilities have you been
able to
> > > > find that can work on the rest of the coach, and that you have
> > > > confidence in? The M450 is many levels above the LXI when it
comes
> > > > to finding a repair shop that can keep one running, with
multiplexed
> > > > wiring and manabloc plumbing. Open the panels up and look at the
> > > > wiring and relays and most mechanics will scratch their heads and
> > > > button everything back up. What I am saying is that there are now
> > > > many many nice coaches out there, a condition that did not
exist when
> > > > Bluebird was in its prime. Anyone can design and build a
beautiful
> > > > motorhome now but the real problem is keeping it repaired.
Buy one
> > > > here in New York state and who is going to repair it?
> > > >
> > > > Tom Warner
> > > > Vernon Center,NY
> > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > . know At 05:53 PM 5/9/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >I want to see them succeed too Tom. I test drove the 450 the
> > > > >other day and it is a great coach. Should appeal to a wide
audience.
> > > > >We'll have to wait and see.
> > > > >
> > > > >David Brady
> > > > >'02 LXi, Smokey
> > > > >Va
> > > > >
> > > > >Tom Warner wrote:
> > > > > > With this in mind does anyone else see something that I
dont see
> > > that
> > > > > > will pull Bluebird out of this nose dive? I honestly want to
> > > see them
> > > > > > succeed and continue producting good coaches but?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom Warner
> > > > > > Vernon Center,NY
> > > > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >SPONSORED LINKS
> > > >
> > >
> > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recr
> >
eational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repa\
ir&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational\
+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=_jXmbh7qWHD7DSskzUir3w>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads\
?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+f\
inancing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recrea\
tional+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=_jXmbh7qWHD7DS\
skzUir3w>Recreational
> > >
> > > > >vehicles
> > > >
> > >
> > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+financin
> >
g&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+veh\
icle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Rec\
reational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=f_xgT1AKZsKXD6CT0_3nwg>http://groups.yahoo\
.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recr\
eational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicl\
e+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.\
sig=f_xgT1AKZsKXD6CT0_3nwg>Recreational
> > >
> > > > >vehicle financing
> > > >
> > >
> > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w
> >
1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicl\
e+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recrea\
tional+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=0EDYS_wXU1aorG4893QXpQ>http://groups.yahoo.co\
m/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreation\
al+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rent\
al&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=0E\
DYS_wXU1aorG4893QXpQ>Recreational
> > >
> > > > >vehicle repair
> > > >
> > >
> > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w
> >
1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicl\
e+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recrea\
tional+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LNSmSf785IF1UlbWHRIOLA>http://groups.yahoo.co\
m/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreation\
al+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rent\
al&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LN\
SmSf785IF1UlbWHRIOLA>Recreational
> > >
> > > > >vehicle rental
> > > >
> > >
> > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w
> >
1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicl\
e+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recrea\
tional+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LoIo4UxSgNx-IyPMRku1lQ>http://groups.yahoo.co\
m/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreation\
al+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rent\
al&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=Lo\
Io4UxSgNx-IyPMRku1lQ>Recreational
> > >
> > > > >vehicle camper
> > > >
> > >
> > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rate&w1=
> >
Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+\
repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreati\
onal+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=N3ia10-EgZXwB7kJhwD4dw>http://groups.yahoo.com/\
gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rate&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+v\
ehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w\
5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=N3ia10\
-EgZXwB7kJhwD4dw>Recreational
> > >
> > > > >vehicle rate
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----------
> > > > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> > > > >
> > > > > * Visit your group
> > > > >
> >
"<<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/\
WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum"
> > > on the web.
> > > > > *
> > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > >
>
>Wander\
lodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *
> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> > > > >
> >
<<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo!

> > Terms of Service.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----------
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >SPONSORED LINKS
>
><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...;vehi\
cles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreat\
ional+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate\
&c=6&s=193&.sig=_jXmbh7qWHD7DSskzUir3w>Recreational

> >vehicles
>
><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...reati\
onal+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w\
4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+veh\
icle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=f_xgT1AKZsKXD6CT0_3nwg>Recreational

> >vehicle financing
>
><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\
l+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=R\
ecreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicl\
e+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=0EDYS_wXU1aorG4893QXpQ>Recreational

> >vehicle repair
>
><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\
l+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=R\
ecreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicl\
e+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LNSmSf785IF1UlbWHRIOLA>Recreational

> >vehicle rental
>
><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\
l+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=R\
ecreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicl\
e+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LoIo4UxSgNx-IyPMRku1lQ>Recreational

> >vehicle camper
>
><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...onal+\
vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Rec\
reational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+\
rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=N3ia10-EgZXwB7kJhwD4dw>Recreational

> >vehicle rate
> >
> >
> >----------
> >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> >
> > * Visit your group
> > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum"
on the web.
> > *
> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > *
> >
Wanderl\
odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

> >
> > *
> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> >----------
>
Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Messages In This Thread
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 01:01
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 02:50
BB Direct Sales info - David Brady - 05-09-2006, 06:29
BB Direct Sales info - George Lowry - 05-09-2006, 07:31
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 09:17
BB Direct Sales info - David Brady - 05-09-2006, 09:53
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 10:21
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 11:51
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 11:54
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 12:02
BB Direct Sales info - Wallace Craig - 05-09-2006, 12:32
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 12:49
BB Direct Sales info - Scott - 05-09-2006, 12:56
BB Direct Sales info - smquandt - 05-09-2006, 13:08
BB Direct Sales info - Mike Hohnstein - 05-09-2006, 13:34
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 13:40
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 13:42
BB Direct Sales info - Gregory OConnor - 05-09-2006, 16:56
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 17:00
BB Direct Sales info - George Lowry - 05-09-2006, 17:12
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 17:56
BB Direct Sales info - Blair - 05-10-2006, 01:44
BB Direct Sales info - Gregory OConnor - 05-10-2006, 02:43
BB Direct Sales info - George Lowry - 05-10-2006, 05:00
BB Direct Sales info - erniecarpet@... - 05-10-2006, 07:13
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006, 10:39
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006 10:46
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006, 10:58
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006, 11:29
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-10-2006, 14:10
BB Direct Sales info - ttikalsky - 05-11-2006, 04:14



User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)