MPG Reality Check
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02-12-2010, 08:17
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MPG Reality Check
Finally, after 7 years, I filled the fuel tank to the top, drove 1015 miles, and
filled it again. The 167 gallons calculates to about 6 MPG. The method has plenty of potential for error. The odometer reads low and I don't have a GPS. I used the Google mileage plus 5% to account for wrong turns, finding RV sites, etc. The route was Brookings, OR to Q by way of Hwy 101 and Malibu, CA. The tank is so big that I figure the fill could be off by as much as 10%. If the fill-up were 10% low, the MPG would have been 6.7. If the fill-up were 10% high, the MPG would have been about 5.5. Other details: 1984 FC31 with California 210HP turbo 3208. Road speed about 58 MPH. 4.89 gears. 11R22.5 Michelins at 105 and 95 PSI. Towing a Honda CRV. Air filter has about 5000 miles. The air intake is the enlarged version designed for the 250HP turbo engine. Never blows any black unless I make an operator error. To achieve the 10 MPG sometimes suggested for the FC, my mileage estimate would need to be off by almost 700 miles, or the fill-up would need to be off by almost 70 gallons. I'd be interested any anyone else's MPG observations and the method used. Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA |
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02-12-2010, 08:52
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I get between 9 and 10 mpg with my 77FC35, but we don't tow anything. Â That was measured over a 5000 mile round trip to AZ from GA with side trips last year. Â Our average speed (by GPS) was around 62. Â Top speed around 72 on flat stretches with a tail wind
So 6-ish towing something doesn't sound completely unreasonable. Dorn Hetzel 77FC35 Hogansville, GA
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM, freewill2008 <"sundance101@comcast.net"> wrote:
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02-12-2010, 09:15
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Bob, Our 82 has averaged 9.2 on a little over Two years ago I drove a 77 Eagle - Chuck 1982 FC 31SB From: Finally, after 7 years, I filled the fuel tank to the top, drove 1015 miles, and filled it again. The 167 gallons calculates to about 6 MPG. The method has plenty of potential for error. The odometer reads low and I don't have a GPS. I used the Google mileage plus 5% to account for wrong turns, finding RV sites, etc. The route was The tank is so big that I figure the fill could be off by as much as 10%. If the fill-up were 10% low, the MPG would have been 6.7. If the fill-up were 10% high, the MPG would have been about 5.5. Other details: 1984 FC31 with 210HP turbo 3208. Road speed about 58 MPH. 4.89 gears. 11R22.5 Michelins at 105 and 95 PSI. Towing a Honda CRV. Air filter has about 5000 miles. The air intake is the enlarged version designed for the 250HP turbo engine. Never blows any black unless I make an operator error. To achieve the 10 MPG sometimes suggested for the FC, my mileage estimate would need to be off by almost 700 miles, or the fill-up would need to be off by almost 70 gallons. I'd be interested any anyone else's MPG observations and the method used. Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA |
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02-12-2010, 11:25
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Considering the topography of your route, that's a trifle low for your 'bird, but not entirely out of line.
My 42' got a low of 4.5 and a high of more than 7 mpg. I noticed that the "best" fuel economy all happened east of the Rockies while traveling in flat places like Texas, Kansas, etc. FWIW, I used 5 mpg for planning purposes and generally got between 5 and 6 on most fill-ups. Hot temperatures (running the generator and ACs), mountains, and high speeds brought the mileage down. Cooler weather, flatter routes, and slower speeds all tended to bring the mileage up. During the time I owned my coach, I did notice that filling the tank could be highly variable. If the fuel was more "foamy" I might get indications the (300 gal capacity) tank was full when it still could take 30 or 40 gallons more. If the fuel was less foamy, I'd get a much better fill up. Often, if I'd wait a couple minutes while the fuel "settled down", I could add 20-30 more gallons. So, all the single-tank figures weren't terribly accurate. However, figuring the fuel used over a 2-1/2 year period and 20,000 miles, I ended up with an estimated 5.5 mpg including use of the AquaHot diesel burner (zero mpg) and the generator. The previous owner had calculated the operating hours of these units and had a "pure" mpg figure that put the efficiency nearer to 6+ mpg. Your rig _should_ be getting something like 7 to 10 mpg if everything was well adjusted and the odometer readings were near-correct. Pete Masterson (former) '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 El Sobrante CA "aeonix1@mac.com" On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:17 PM, freewill2008 wrote:
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02-12-2010, 11:54
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Bob says he is running 4.89 rear gears. Those are some real 'stump pulling' or
drag racing gears. It makes me wonder what rear gears are Dorn and Chuck running that get 9-10MPG? Mike Bulriss 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - unknown rear gears San Antonio, TX - finally sunny again! --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008" > > Finally, after 7 years, I filled the fuel tank to the top, drove 1015 miles, and filled it again. The 167 gallons calculates to about 6 MPG. > > The method has plenty of potential for error. The odometer reads low and I don't have a GPS. I used the Google mileage plus 5% to account for wrong turns, finding RV sites, etc. The route was Brookings, OR to Q by way of Hwy 101 and Malibu, CA. > > The tank is so big that I figure the fill could be off by as much as 10%. If the fill-up were 10% low, the MPG would have been 6.7. If the fill-up were 10% high, the MPG would have been about 5.5. > > Other details: 1984 FC31 with California 210HP turbo 3208. Road speed about 58 MPH. 4.89 gears. 11R22.5 Michelins at 105 and 95 PSI. Towing a Honda CRV. Air filter has about 5000 miles. The air intake is the enlarged version designed for the 250HP turbo engine. Never blows any black unless I make an operator error. > > To achieve the 10 MPG sometimes suggested for the FC, my mileage estimate would need to be off by almost 700 miles, or the fill-up would need to be off by almost 70 gallons. > > I'd be interested any anyone else's MPG observations and the method used. > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > |
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02-12-2010, 12:12
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I don't actually know what gears I have.  I do know the previous owner re-rimmed it so it runs all standard 11r22.5 truck tires but I don't know if that diameter varies from the original substantially.
dorn hetzel 77fc35 Hogansville, ga On Feb 12, 2010 6:55 PM, "mbulriss" <"mbulriss@yahoo.com"> wrote: |
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02-12-2010, 13:49
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Ours was 5.29 I changed it to 4.89 about - Chuck 1982 FC 31SB From: I don't actually know what gears I have. I do know the previous owner re-rimmed it so it runs all standard 11r22.5 truck tires but I don't know if that diameter varies from the original substantially. dorn hetzel 77fc35 Hogansville, ga
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02-12-2010, 17:34
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Hardly in the same league as the "Deezel" birds, but the mileage in our 1973FC31
with the 391 gas engine bounces around between 5 & 6mpg... This is making the loop from SoCal to the Seattle area, over to Spokane and Billings, and home through either Denver or Salt Lake City... We always tow our CJ7 fitted with freewheeling hubs at all corners... Most of the time, we can roll along at 60, but on some hills a bit slower. On the Grapevine and Raton quite a bit slower, more like 18 to 20...Just find a big, slow 18 wheeler and fall in behind him... Jack Smith 1973FC31 SoCal . --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008" > > Finally, after 7 years, I filled the fuel tank to the top, drove 1015 miles, and filled it again. The 167 gallons calculates to about 6 MPG. > > The method has plenty of potential for error. The odometer reads low and I don't have a GPS. I used the Google mileage plus 5% to account for wrong turns, finding RV sites, etc. The route was Brookings, OR to Q by way of Hwy 101 and Malibu, CA. > > The tank is so big that I figure the fill could be off by as much as 10%. If the fill-up were 10% low, the MPG would have been 6.7. If the fill-up were 10% high, the MPG would have been about 5.5. > > Other details: 1984 FC31 with California 210HP turbo 3208. Road speed about 58 MPH. 4.89 gears. 11R22.5 Michelins at 105 and 95 PSI. Towing a Honda CRV. Air filter has about 5000 miles. The air intake is the enlarged version designed for the 250HP turbo engine. Never blows any black unless I make an operator error. > > To achieve the 10 MPG sometimes suggested for the FC, my mileage estimate would need to be off by almost 700 miles, or the fill-up would need to be off by almost 70 gallons. > > I'd be interested any anyone else's MPG observations and the method used. > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > |
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02-13-2010, 13:58
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jackcj7"
> > > Hardly in the same league as the "Deezel" birds, but the mileage in our 1973FC31 with the 391 gas engine bounces around between 5 & 6mpg... This is making the loop from SoCal to the Seattle area, over to Spokane and Billings, and home through either Denver or Salt Lake City... We always tow our CJ7 fitted with freewheeling hubs at all corners... Most of the time, we can roll along at 60, but on some hills a bit slower. On the Grapevine and Raton quite a bit slower, more like 18 to 20...Just find a big, slow 18 wheeler and fall in behind him... > Jack Smith > 1973FC31 > SoCal > . > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008" > > > > Finally, after 7 years, I filled the fuel tank to the top, drove 1015 miles, and filled it again. The 167 gallons calculates to about 6 MPG. > > > > The method has plenty of potential for error. The odometer reads low and I don't have a GPS. I used the Google mileage plus 5% to account for wrong turns, finding RV sites, etc. The route was Brookings, OR to Q by way of Hwy 101 and Malibu, CA. > > > > The tank is so big that I figure the fill could be off by as much as 10%. If the fill-up were 10% low, the MPG would have been 6.7. If the fill-up were 10% high, the MPG would have been about 5.5. > > > > Other details: 1984 FC31 with California 210HP turbo 3208. Road speed about 58 MPH. 4.89 gears. 11R22.5 Michelins at 105 and 95 PSI. Towing a Honda CRV. Air filter has about 5000 miles. The air intake is the enlarged version designed for the 250HP turbo engine. Never blows any black unless I make an operator error. > > > > To achieve the 10 MPG sometimes suggested for the FC, my mileage estimate would need to be off by almost 700 miles, or the fill-up would need to be off by almost 70 gallons. > > > > I'd be interested any anyone else's MPG observations and the method used. > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > > Do the calcs when home from a trip, fill @ the same pump @ local truck stop, add up all the fuel used and divide by miles traveled. My FC w/charge air cooler gets 6.5/7.0 every time. Odo verified by mile sticks. Do the whole trip average as that's the best way to figure real mileage. Cruise @ 63 most of the time. Tow 240D or F-150. |
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02-15-2010, 03:39
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Bob, I don't dispute your method or your finding at all. My only comment is, that mileage seems too low.I would expect thatyour mileage would be closer to 8mg. But,that's only based on other folks bragging including my own,that I have observed.
Steve (at Painted Rocks campground). Temp 80 degrees with absolute clear blue skies.
In a message dated 2/12/2010 12:22:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sundance101@... writes:
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