Removing couch

[SteveQ]

John

Was Primus now converted to Webasto.

Steve Quandt
1993 PT40
Iron Mountain, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, jvredden@... wrote:
>
> Steve,
> Is your coach heat a Primus or AquaHot ?
>
> John Redden
> 91 PT 40
> N Carolina
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "SteveQ"
>
> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:21:27
> To:
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Removing couch
>
>
> When I removed my curb side sofa it was disassembled to make it easier. I
also had to make a cover for the heat run and wires that were there. I cut
three holes in the top of the cover and installed 4x12 register covers. There
is a hot 12vdc circuit in the bundle of wire that was supposed to go to the
Table in/out, that circuit is not used in my coach.
>
> To improve the heat distribution I installed a snap disk on at 130?degrees amd
off at 90? (I'll look if anyone is interested) to trigger two small computer
cooling fans directly under each register cover using the Table in/out circuit
to power them. There is also a three position switch in the circuit to turn off
the fans, turn on the fans or let the snap disk control them.
>
> There is a little extra noise from these but a real improvement in heat
distribution. If I remeber my calcutaltions these fans (all not individually)
will move the cubic footage of air in the front of the coach every five or six
minutes.
>
> Steve Quandt
> 1993 PT40
> Iron Mountain, MI
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson wrote:
> >
> > Street side sofa has an AquaHot heat radiator and the 12-vdc
> > "filter" (a metal box with some large capacitors inside) under/behind
> > it. In my coach, the heat-thing was accommodated with a 2/3 width
> > drawer under the sofa. The filter goes against the coach wall and does
> > not interfere with the sofa drawer.
> >
> > The wire chase was not enclosed, but was "finished" with a single
> > board covered with the gray felt "Ozite" fabric attached to the wall
> > and left to hang over the area. Looking behind the sofa from above,
> > you did not see that it was open to the aisle.
> >
> > When I modified the interior to have filing cabinets where that sofa
> > had been, I built a platform to accommodate both the heat device and
> > the electrical filter. I used the Ozite board to cover the area behind
> > the platform. When I installed the filing cabinets, I removed a skinny
> > cabinet (that was virtually useless do to the impossibly narrow door)
> > mounted between the original sofa and the "throne" cabinets that
> > surround the driver's seat.
> >
> > When installing the new sofa (in preparation of getting the coach
> > ready for sale) I ordered a full width drawer -- which left me with
> > the problem of what to do with the heat radiator. I created a semi-box
> > in the position where the narrow cabinet had been removed, with a vent
> > hole cut toward the aisle-side, with the back and side (toward the
> > sofa) left open (to allow air to flow through) I replaced part of of
> > the Pex tubing (conveniently, there were some copper elbows used to
> > make a tight turn) to the radiator with slightly longer pieces, and
> > then attached the radiator to the back (sofa) side of the throne
> > cabinet. Once the sofa is in place, you just see the top and front of
> > the "box" (covered in the same wood as used for the floor) and the
> > heat blows out next to the sofa rather than from under it.
> >
> > Again, I used the Ozite-covered board behind the sofa to disguise the
> > view of the open wire-chase from above, if you should look down behind
> > the sofa. As before the electrical filter is attached to the wall and
> > does not project far enough to interfere with the sofa drawer.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:18 AM, tcandt wrote:
> >
> > > We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is
> > > making a run box and covering with carpet this weekend.
> > >
> > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > > Aguanga, CA
> > > 1995 PT 42
> > > "Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernie Ekberg"
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate
> > >> the top from the bottom ernie
> > >>
> > >> ----------
> > >> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
> > >>
> > >> ------Original Message------
> > >> From: contrail Bob
> > >> To:
> > >> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> > >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
> > >>
> > >> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to
> > >> work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're
> > >> thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put
> > >> in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and
> > >> the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on
> > >> the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if
> > >> we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be
> > >> the best but we found the heater and other things under it that
> > >> would probably require more work that taking out the curb side
> > >> couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do
> > >> you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
> > >> synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the
> > >> engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in
> > >> wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July,
> > >> we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol
> > >> 99LX Illinois.......
> > >>
> >
>

[contrail Bob]

-Today I removed the street side couch. I took the arms off and it went out the
door with no problem. Now, I need to get a recliner and table (cabinet) to put
where the couch was. There was nothing under the couch but the cylinder for the
stair well cover and this should not be a problem with the cabinet and a little
extra carpet cover. The wall's were covered to the floor with no wire chase's
etc. Iam thinking I need to recarpet while Iam at this stage as I believe I can
take the street side couch loose and put it in the kitchen area. I've been
looking at the two seats and trying to figure how they come out. Looks like four
bolts to a frame then remove chair and then a large bolt in the center comes out
to remove the base, both front seats are electric. Thanks to all for the help,
If you have any idea's on the front seat removal I would appreciate the imput.
Thanks Bob&Carol...99 40'LX Illinois

-- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SteveQ"


.> wrote:
>
> When I removed my curb side sofa it was disassembled to make it easier. I
also had to make a cover for the heat run and wires that were there. I cut
three holes in the top of the cover and installed 4x12 register covers. There
is a hot 12vdc circuit in the bundle of wire that was supposed to go to the
Table in/out, that circuit is not used in my coach.
>
> To improve the heat distribution I installed a snap disk on at 130?degrees amd
off at 90? (I'll look if anyone is interested) to trigger two small computer
cooling fans directly under each register cover using the Table in/out circuit
to power them. There is also a three position switch in the circuit to turn off
the fans, turn on the fans or let the snap disk control them.
>
> There is a little extra noise from these but a real improvement in heat
distribution. If I remeber my calcutaltions these fans (all not individually)
will move the cubic footage of air in the front of the coach every five or six
minutes.
>
> Steve Quandt
> 1993 PT40
> Iron Mountain, MI
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson wrote:
> >
> > Street side sofa has an AquaHot heat radiator and the 12-vdc
> > "filter" (a metal box with some large capacitors inside) under/behind
> > it. In my coach, the heat-thing was accommodated with a 2/3 width
> > drawer under the sofa. The filter goes against the coach wall and does
> > not interfere with the sofa drawer.
> >
> > The wire chase was not enclosed, but was "finished" with a single
> > board covered with the gray felt "Ozite" fabric attached to the wall
> > and left to hang over the area. Looking behind the sofa from above,
> > you did not see that it was open to the aisle.
> >
> > When I modified the interior to have filing cabinets where that sofa
> > had been, I built a platform to accommodate both the heat device and
> > the electrical filter. I used the Ozite board to cover the area behind
> > the platform. When I installed the filing cabinets, I removed a skinny
> > cabinet (that was virtually useless do to the impossibly narrow door)
> > mounted between the original sofa and the "throne" cabinets that
> > surround the driver's seat.
> >
> > When installing the new sofa (in preparation of getting the coach
> > ready for sale) I ordered a full width drawer -- which left me with
> > the problem of what to do with the heat radiator. I created a semi-box
> > in the position where the narrow cabinet had been removed, with a vent
> > hole cut toward the aisle-side, with the back and side (toward the
> > sofa) left open (to allow air to flow through) I replaced part of of
> > the Pex tubing (conveniently, there were some copper elbows used to
> > make a tight turn) to the radiator with slightly longer pieces, and
> > then attached the radiator to the back (sofa) side of the throne
> > cabinet. Once the sofa is in place, you just see the top and front of
> > the "box" (covered in the same wood as used for the floor) and the
> > heat blows out next to the sofa rather than from under it.
> >
> > Again, I used the Ozite-covered board behind the sofa to disguise the
> > view of the open wire-chase from above, if you should look down behind
> > the sofa. As before the electrical filter is attached to the wall and
> > does not project far enough to interfere with the sofa drawer.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:18 AM, tcandt wrote:
> >
> > > We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is
> > > making a run box and covering with carpet this weekend.
> > >
> > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > > Aguanga, CA
> > > 1995 PT 42
> > > "Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernie Ekberg"
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate
> > >> the top from the bottom ernie
> > >>
> > >> ----------
> > >> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
> > >>
> > >> ------Original Message------
> > >> From: contrail Bob
> > >> To:
> > >> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> > >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
> > >>
> > >> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to
> > >> work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're
> > >> thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put
> > >> in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and
> > >> the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on
> > >> the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if
> > >> we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be
> > >> the best but we found the heater and other things under it that
> > >> would probably require more work that taking out the curb side
> > >> couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do
> > >> you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
> > >> synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the
> > >> engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in
> > >> wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July,
> > >> we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol
> > >> 99LX Illinois.......
> > >>
> >
>

[cape0001]

the seats should just lift off, The pedestals loosen the clamp which allows it
to swivel and lift them straight up
the remainder of the pedestal is bolted to the floor mark the pedestals for
orientation the bolts maybe slightly off and which pedestal goes on the proper
side
Stephen 7735fc

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "contrail Bob" wrote:
>
> -Today I removed the street side couch. I took the arms off and it went out
the door with no problem. Now, I need to get a recliner and table (cabinet) to
put where the couch was. There was nothing under the couch but the cylinder for
the stair well cover and this should not be a problem with the cabinet and a
little extra carpet cover. The wall's were covered to the floor with no wire
chase's etc. Iam thinking I need to recarpet while Iam at this stage as I
believe I can take the street side couch loose and put it in the kitchen area.
I've been looking at the two seats and trying to figure how they come out. Looks
like four bolts to a frame then remove chair and then a large bolt in the center
comes out to remove the base, both front seats are electric. Thanks to all for
the help, If you have any idea's on the front seat removal I would appreciate
the imput. Thanks Bob&Carol...99 40'LX Illinois
>
> -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "SteveQ" >
>
>
> .> wrote:
> >
> > When I removed my curb side sofa it was disassembled to make it easier. I
also had to make a cover for the heat run and wires that were there. I cut
three holes in the top of the cover and installed 4x12 register covers. There
is a hot 12vdc circuit in the bundle of wire that was supposed to go to the
Table in/out, that circuit is not used in my coach.
> >
> > To improve the heat distribution I installed a snap disk on at 130?degrees
amd off at 90? (I'll look if anyone is interested) to trigger two small computer
cooling fans directly under each register cover using the Table in/out circuit
to power them. There is also a three position switch in the circuit to turn off
the fans, turn on the fans or let the snap disk control them.
> >
> > There is a little extra noise from these but a real improvement in heat
distribution. If I remeber my calcutaltions these fans (all not individually)
will move the cubic footage of air in the front of the coach every five or six
minutes.
> >
> > Steve Quandt
> > 1993 PT40
> > Iron Mountain, MI
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > >
> > > Street side sofa has an AquaHot heat radiator and the 12-vdc
> > > "filter" (a metal box with some large capacitors inside) under/behind
> > > it. In my coach, the heat-thing was accommodated with a 2/3 width
> > > drawer under the sofa. The filter goes against the coach wall and does
> > > not interfere with the sofa drawer.
> > >
> > > The wire chase was not enclosed, but was "finished" with a single
> > > board covered with the gray felt "Ozite" fabric attached to the wall
> > > and left to hang over the area. Looking behind the sofa from above,
> > > you did not see that it was open to the aisle.
> > >
> > > When I modified the interior to have filing cabinets where that sofa
> > > had been, I built a platform to accommodate both the heat device and
> > > the electrical filter. I used the Ozite board to cover the area behind
> > > the platform. When I installed the filing cabinets, I removed a skinny
> > > cabinet (that was virtually useless do to the impossibly narrow door)
> > > mounted between the original sofa and the "throne" cabinets that
> > > surround the driver's seat.
> > >
> > > When installing the new sofa (in preparation of getting the coach
> > > ready for sale) I ordered a full width drawer -- which left me with
> > > the problem of what to do with the heat radiator. I created a semi-box
> > > in the position where the narrow cabinet had been removed, with a vent
> > > hole cut toward the aisle-side, with the back and side (toward the
> > > sofa) left open (to allow air to flow through) I replaced part of of
> > > the Pex tubing (conveniently, there were some copper elbows used to
> > > make a tight turn) to the radiator with slightly longer pieces, and
> > > then attached the radiator to the back (sofa) side of the throne
> > > cabinet. Once the sofa is in place, you just see the top and front of
> > > the "box" (covered in the same wood as used for the floor) and the
> > > heat blows out next to the sofa rather than from under it.
> > >
> > > Again, I used the Ozite-covered board behind the sofa to disguise the
> > > view of the open wire-chase from above, if you should look down behind
> > > the sofa. As before the electrical filter is attached to the wall and
> > > does not project far enough to interfere with the sofa drawer.
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > El Sobrante CA
> > > aeonix1@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:18 AM, tcandt wrote:
> > >
> > > > We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is
> > > > making a run box and covering with carpet this weekend.
> > > >
> > > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > > > Aguanga, CA
> > > > 1995 PT 42
> > > > "Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernie Ekberg"
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate
> > > >> the top from the bottom ernie
> > > >>
> > > >> ----------
> > > >> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email
> > > >>
> > > >> ------Original Message------
> > > >> From: contrail Bob
> > > >> To:
> > > >> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM
> > > >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to
> > > >> work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're
> > > >> thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put
> > > >> in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and
> > > >> the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on
> > > >> the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if
> > > >> we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be
> > > >> the best but we found the heater and other things under it that
> > > >> would probably require more work that taking out the curb side
> > > >> couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do
> > > >> you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of
> > > >> synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the
> > > >> engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in
> > > >> wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July,
> > > >> we're really anxious to get it going.......Thanks, Bob&Carol
> > > >> 99LX Illinois.......
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

Bob, the nuts that hold the seat to the base are 15/16 inch. The copilot area- the steel platform is thru bolted and has large washers and nuts under the wheel well. There are 4 bolts into the steel wall, also. The pilot seat may have to be removed with the 4 nuts/bolts that secure that chair to a steel plate. the 15/16 nut is hard to get at untill you remove the plate. The base is thru bolted to the wheel well, also Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Sun, 9/20/09, cape0001 wrote: From: cape0001 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Removing couch To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 7:17 PM the seats should just lift off, The pedestals loosen the clamp which allows it to swivel and lift them straight up the remainder of the pedestal is bolted to the floor mark the pedestals for orientation the bolts maybe slightly off and which pedestal goes on the proper side Stephen 7735fc --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "contrail Bob" wrote: > > -Today I removed the street side couch. I took the arms off and it went out the door with no problem. Now, I need to get a recliner and table (cabinet) to put where the couch was. There was nothing under the couch but the cylinder for the stair well cover and this should not be a problem with the cabinet and a little extra carpet cover. The wall's were covered to the floor with no wire chase's etc. Iam thinking I need to recarpet while Iam at this stage as I believe I can take the street side couch loose and put it in the kitchen area. I've been looking at the two seats and trying to figure how they come out. Looks like four bolts to a frame then remove chair and then a large bolt in the center comes out to remove the base, both front seats are electric. Thanks to all for the help, If you have any idea's on the front seat removal I would appreciate the imput. Thanks Bob&Carol... 99 40'LX Illinois > > -- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "SteveQ" > > > > .> wrote: > > > > When I removed my curb side sofa it was disassembled to make it easier. I also had to make a cover for the heat run and wires that were there. I cut three holes in the top of the cover and installed 4x12 register covers. There is a hot 12vdc circuit in the bundle of wire that was supposed to go to the Table in/out, that circuit is not used in my coach. > > > > To improve the heat distribution I installed a snap disk on at 130?degrees amd off at 90? (I'll look if anyone is interested) to trigger two small computer cooling fans directly under each register cover using the Table in/out circuit to power them. There is also a three position switch in the circuit to turn off the fans, turn on the fans or let the snap disk control them. > > > > There is a little extra noise from these but a real improvement in heat distribution. If I remeber my calcutaltions these fans (all not individually) will move the cubic footage of air in the front of the coach every five or six minutes. > > > > Steve Quandt > > 1993 PT40 > > Iron Mountain, MI > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson wrote: > > > > > > Street side sofa has an AquaHot heat radiator and the 12-vdc > > > "filter" (a metal box with some large capacitors inside) under/behind > > > it. In my coach, the heat-thing was accommodated with a 2/3 width > > > drawer under the sofa. The filter goes against the coach wall and does > > > not interfere with the sofa drawer. > > > > > > The wire chase was not enclosed, but was "finished" with a single > > > board covered with the gray felt "Ozite" fabric attached to the wall > > > and left to hang over the area. Looking behind the sofa from above, > > > you did not see that it was open to the aisle. > > > > > > When I modified the interior to have filing cabinets where that sofa > > > had been, I built a platform to accommodate both the heat device and > > > the electrical filter. I used the Ozite board to cover the area behind > > > the platform. When I installed the filing cabinets, I removed a skinny > > > cabinet (that was virtually useless do to the impossibly narrow door) > > > mounted between the original sofa and the "throne" cabinets that > > > surround the driver's seat. > > > > > > When installing the new sofa (in preparation of getting the coach > > > ready for sale) I ordered a full width drawer -- which left me with > > > the problem of what to do with the heat radiator. I created a semi-box > > > in the position where the narrow cabinet had been removed, with a vent > > > hole cut toward the aisle-side, with the back and side (toward the > > > sofa) left open (to allow air to flow through) I replaced part of of > > > the Pex tubing (conveniently, there were some copper elbows used to > > > make a tight turn) to the radiator with slightly longer pieces, and > > > then attached the radiator to the back (sofa) side of the throne > > > cabinet. Once the sofa is in place, you just see the top and front of > > > the "box" (covered in the same wood as used for the floor) and the > > > heat blows out next to the sofa rather than from under it. > > > > > > Again, I used the Ozite-covered board behind the sofa to disguise the > > > view of the open wire-chase from above, if you should look down behind > > > the sofa. As before the electrical filter is attached to the wall and > > > does not project far enough to interfere with the sofa drawer. > > > > > > Pete Masterson > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > > > El Sobrante CA > > > aeonix1@ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:18 AM, tcandt wrote: > > > > > > > We also found the wire run was unfinished behind the sofa. Ernie is > > > > making a run box and covering with carpet this weekend. > > > > > > > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy > > > > Aguanga, CA > > > > 1995 PT 42 > > > > "Fires don't scare me. I stay far away from them." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Ernie Ekberg" > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> bob i took tommy mccarthys curbside couch out and had to separate > > > >> the top from the bottom ernie > > > >> > > > >> ---------- > > > >> Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email > > > >> > > > >> ------Original Message----- - > > > >> From: contrail Bob > > > >> To: <WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com> > > > >> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 02:47 AM > > > >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Removing couch > > > >> > > > >> Hi All, We've been gone all summer and just now we're starting to > > > >> work on our coach that we purchased this past July. We're > > > >> thinking that we would like to take one of the couch's out and put > > > >> in the recliner and table. We have two, one is about 80" long and > > > >> the other is about 68" long. We're thinking that the short one on > > > >> the curb side is the best one to take out. We first thought that if > > > >> we took the longer one out on the street side that this would be > > > >> the best but we found the heater and other things under it that > > > >> would probably require more work that taking out the curb side > > > >> couch. Our question is, will the couch go out the door as is or do > > > >> you have to take the end's off? We purchased 10 gallon's of > > > >> synthetic oil and plan on doing the oil and filter change on the > > > >> engine and generator. We've been in our fifth wheel trailer in > > > >> wyoming and the coach has not been out of our garage since July, > > > >> we're really anxious to get it going....... Thanks, Bob&Carol > > > >> 99LX Illinois.... ... > > > >> > > > > > >