Upgrades to interior

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Leroy
    How did you do you lighted ceiling? I am always looking for ways to
change the interior of mine.Â


Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA


-----Original Message-----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 4:07 pm
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1985 PT40 6V $39,000 in Pa- Avoid this one!






The coach I own is the first one I have ever owned. I stumbled upon it on the
internet. At the time, I knew nothing about a bus or a forum. Having restored
several collector cars, re-skinned and completely rebuilt an airplane from the
ground up, that means every piece laying on the floor to begin with (I even flew
it for 500 hours) I wasn't particularly concerned because I am able to repair
stuff when I get motivated.

I did look a one privately owned Prevost, 10 Birds owned by a dealer, and the
privately owned one now in the driveway. What I purchased was the best I could
find for the money at the time. I knew it was different based upon the others I
looked at but did not know why. I later determined with Bennie's help at BB that
it was a Royale Conversion. Mine too was sold by Pat Poor to its second owner. I
have the invoice for that sale. I am the 4th owner.

I purchased the coach in January 2004, stayed in it one night with temps in the
teens, drove it for 15 minutes the next day. Everything worked except one light
bulb and the overhead EL panel..The engine and genset areas were clean, the bays
were like new and the wiring I looked at was in near perfect shape. I left a
personal check for $5000 non-refundable and I returned the following weekend to
pay the difference with a cashiers check.

I have not had any significant problems with the coach. I have changed the
tires, added a lighted and mirrored ceiling, changed the Primus LP to Wabasto
diesel, added polished stainless trim, LED lights and changed all the hoses in
the genset area, all elective. The only real unscheduled maintenance items to
date are an engine water pump, had to rebuild the Thomas toilet compressor pump
and the motor on the Fantastic fan failed. I did remove the Easy Heat freeze
heaters because they shorted out and fried a water pipe. I recently had an
internal ground problem with the Wabasto control box but was able to get it
going just in time for the cold weather tonight. I replaced the bad light bulb
and reconnected a wire to the upper EL panel and all is well.

I have driven it about 25,000 miles since purchase.

Price is determined between a willing buyer and willing seller. I did not pay
$40,000 for it, I paid about $5,000 over NADA book at the time. For starters, I
could not duplicate the interior for any negotiated difference.

I am happy that I did because it has served me very well. I expect it to
continue to provide excellent service in years to come. If all goes well, I'm
gonna find out next month on the way to Quartzsite and back. Knock on wood, so
far so good.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

brad barton <bbartonwx@...> wrote:
Wow, no deposit refund? We sold our Newell sight-unseen just pics, email and
phone conversations. My buyer sent a $10K deposit check and wire-transferred the
rest as he left Ohio for Texas.
Two things stand out about this deal. A..it's a non-coach dealer. That says the
coach was spun off by someone for a little bit of nothing to a dealer with some
cash and probably little knowledge of coaches or inclination to fix it up for a
buyer. B..it's a non-coach dealer with a sharp lawyer who know whether he's
liable to be sued. I'm sorry for your loss and disappointment.

I'm assuming most on this forum bought their coaches used..and sold other
coaches in trade. I'd be interested in how and from whom you bought and
sold..and what you would do differently if you could.
We bought our first two coaches from Pat Poor, manager of Friendly Chevrolet's
Blue Bird dealership. He was a private used dealer when we bought our first
coach, an 84FC in 1998. He bought a lot of overage from Buddy Gregg just a mile
away. It was clean, 65,000 miles and almost trouble free for the 10 months we
owned it. I sold it privately in about two months on the internet for my
original purchase price.
My second coach was also from Pat..a consignment 86 Newell with 131000 miles. A
lot more trouble and costly upgrades, but a pleasure to drive. Watertight
integrity was problem. We had more leaks than anything else, sunroof leaks,
waterpipe leaks and window leaks..and each caused more damage than the leak
itself. Also needed new aux compressor, airbags, brakes, air valves,
refrigerator, two of three furnaces, two dash airs, etc.
Lesson-learned...if a consignment coach, find out how long it sat outside and
inside and under what conditions. I'm not likely to buy a consignment coach
again. We owned it for 4 years, pumped a ton of money into it..and sold it for
$30,000 under the purchase price.
Our current coach, the LXi, has had a few problems..slide-baseboard popped
off..toilet compressor and now flexible waterline to be replaced, engine access
door broken, floor chirps in the hallway and assorted rattles and squeaks. But
it had only 36000 miles. We bought it from Paul Davis at Mr. Olivers. I've never
been totally satisfied with any deal and always disappointed to find plenty to
fix on my coach right after purchase, but the people we know wiith new coaches
are usually in a constant state of anger against their new dealers even when
under warranty.

New coach from New Coach dealer
Used coach from New Coach dealer
Used coach from Used dealer
Consignment coach from New or Used dealer
Brand A used coach from Brand A dealer
Off-brand used coach from Brand A dealer
Used Coach from individual..and how structured?
What percentage deposit, wire transfer or check?
Trade or buy and sell outright?
Brad Barton 00LXiDFWbbartonwx@...
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---Don:
My 90SP36 has two large florecent lites in the hallway...an upgrade
from 1989 and it sure helps. Highly recommend the change for your 89.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36






In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dspithaler@... wrote:
>
> Leroy
> Â Â Â Â How did you do you lighted ceiling? I am always looking for
ways to change the interior of mine.Â
>
>
> Don
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leroy Eckert
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 4:07 pm
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1985 PT40 6V $39,000 in Pa-
Avoid this one!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The coach I own is the first one I have ever owned. I stumbled upon
it on the internet. At the time, I knew nothing about a bus or a
forum. Having restored several collector cars, re-skinned and
completely rebuilt an airplane from the ground up, that means every
piece laying on the floor to begin with (I even flew it for 500
hours) I wasn't particularly concerned because I am able to repair
stuff when I get motivated.
>
> I did look a one privately owned Prevost, 10 Birds owned by a
dealer, and the privately owned one now in the driveway. What I
purchased was the best I could find for the money at the time. I knew
it was different based upon the others I looked at but did not know
why. I later determined with Bennie's help at BB that it was a Royale
Conversion. Mine too was sold by Pat Poor to its second owner. I have
the invoice for that sale. I am the 4th owner.
>
> I purchased the coach in January 2004, stayed in it one night with
temps in the teens, drove it for 15 minutes the next day. Everything
worked except one light bulb and the overhead EL panel..The engine
and genset areas were clean, the bays were like new and the wiring I
looked at was in near perfect shape. I left a personal check for
$5000 non-refundable and I returned the following weekend to pay the
difference with a cashiers check.
>
> I have not had any significant problems with the coach. I have
changed the tires, added a lighted and mirrored ceiling, changed the
Primus LP to Wabasto diesel, added polished stainless trim, LED
lights and changed all the hoses in the genset area, all elective.
The only real unscheduled maintenance items to date are an engine
water pump, had to rebuild the Thomas toilet compressor pump and the
motor on the Fantastic fan failed. I did remove the Easy Heat freeze
heaters because they shorted out and fried a water pipe. I recently
had an internal ground problem with the Wabasto control box but was
able to get it going just in time for the cold weather tonight. I
replaced the bad light bulb and reconnected a wire to the upper EL
panel and all is well.
>
> I have driven it about 25,000 miles since purchase.
>
> Price is determined between a willing buyer and willing seller. I
did not pay $40,000 for it, I paid about $5,000 over NADA book at the
time. For starters, I could not duplicate the interior for any
negotiated difference.
>
> I am happy that I did because it has served me very well. I expect
it to continue to provide excellent service in years to come. If all
goes well, I'm gonna find out next month on the way to Quartzsite and
back. Knock on wood, so far so good.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> brad barton <bbartonwx@...> wrote:
> Wow, no deposit refund? We sold our Newell sight-unseen just pics,
email and phone conversations. My buyer sent a $10K deposit check and
wire-transferred the rest as he left Ohio for Texas.
> Two things stand out about this deal. A..it's a non-coach dealer.
That says the coach was spun off by someone for a little bit of
nothing to a dealer with some cash and probably little knowledge of
coaches or inclination to fix it up for a buyer. B..it's a non-coach
dealer with a sharp lawyer who know whether he's liable to be sued.
I'm sorry for your loss and disappointment.
>
> I'm assuming most on this forum bought their coaches used..and sold
other coaches in trade. I'd be interested in how and from whom you
bought and sold..and what you would do differently if you could.
> We bought our first two coaches from Pat Poor, manager of Friendly
Chevrolet's Blue Bird dealership. He was a private used dealer when
we bought our first coach, an 84FC in 1998. He bought a lot of
overage from Buddy Gregg just a mile away. It was clean, 65,000 miles
and almost trouble free for the 10 months we owned it. I sold it
privately in about two months on the internet for my original
purchase price.
> My second coach was also from Pat..a consignment 86 Newell with
131000 miles. A lot more trouble and costly upgrades, but a pleasure
to drive. Watertight integrity was problem. We had more leaks than
anything else, sunroof leaks, waterpipe leaks and window leaks..and
each caused more damage than the leak itself. Also needed new aux
compressor, airbags, brakes, air valves, refrigerator, two of three
furnaces, two dash airs, etc.
> Lesson-learned...if a consignment coach, find out how long it sat
outside and inside and under what conditions. I'm not likely to buy a
consignment coach again. We owned it for 4 years, pumped a ton of
money into it..and sold it for $30,000 under the purchase price.
> Our current coach, the LXi, has had a few problems..slide-baseboard
popped off..toilet compressor and now flexible waterline to be
replaced, engine access door broken, floor chirps in the hallway and
assorted rattles and squeaks. But it had only 36000 miles. We bought
it from Paul Davis at Mr. Olivers. I've never been totally satisfied
with any deal and always disappointed to find plenty to fix on my
coach right after purchase, but the people we know wiith new coaches
are usually in a constant state of anger against their new dealers
even when under warranty.
>
> New coach from New Coach dealer
> Used coach from New Coach dealer
> Used coach from Used dealer
> Consignment coach from New or Used dealer
> Brand A used coach from Brand A dealer
> Off-brand used coach from Brand A dealer
> Used Coach from individual..and how structured?
> What percentage deposit, wire transfer or check?
> Trade or buy and sell outright?
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFWbbartonwx@...
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[dspithaler@...]

Hank   That is a good idea. That's a dark hallway   Thanks Don 89 SP
36 Butler, PA

---Don:
My 90SP36 has two large florecent lites in the hallway...an upgrade
from 1989 and it sure helps. Highly recommend the change for your 89.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36




Don Spithaler


-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Jay Hannigan
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 3:14 am
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Upgrades to interior






---Don:
My 90SP36 has two large florecent lites in the hallway...an upgrade
from 1989 and it sure helps. Highly recommend the change for your 89.
Regards,
Hank Hannigan
90SP36

In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, dspithaler@... wrote:
>
> Leroy
>     How did you do you lighted ceiling? I am always looking for
ways to change the interior of mine.ÂÂ
>
>
> Don
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leroy Eckert
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 4:07 pm
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1985 PT40 6V $39,000 in Pa-
Avoid this one!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The coach I own is the first one I have ever owned. I stumbled upon
it on the internet. At the time, I knew nothing about a bus or a
forum. Having restored several collector cars, re-skinned and
completely rebuilt an airplane from the ground up, that means every
piece laying on the floor to begin with (I even flew it for 500
hours) I wasn't particularly concerned because I am able to repair
stuff when I get motivated.
>
> I did look a one privately owned Prevost, 10 Birds owned by a
dealer, and the privately owned one now in the driveway. What I
purchased was the best I could find for the money at the time. I knew
it was different based upon the others I looked at but did not know
why. I later determined with Bennie's help at BB that it was a Royale
Conversion. Mine too was sold by Pat Poor to its second owner. I have
the invoice for that sale. I am the 4th owner.
>
> I purchased the coach in January 2004, stayed in it one night with
temps in the teens, drove it for 15 minutes the next day. Everything
worked except one light bulb and the overhead EL panel..The engine
and genset areas were clean, the bays were like new and the wiring I
looked at was in near perfect shape. I left a personal check for
$5000 non-refundable and I returned the following weekend to pay the
difference with a cashiers check.
>
> I have not had any significant problems with the coach. I have
changed the tires, added a lighted and mirrored ceiling, changed the
Primus LP to Wabasto diesel, added polished stainless trim, LED
lights and changed all the hoses in the genset area, all elective.
The only real unscheduled maintenance items to date are an engine
water pump, had to rebuild the Thomas toilet compressor pump and the
motor on the Fantastic fan failed. I did remove the Easy Heat freeze
heaters because they shorted out and fried a water pipe. I recently
had an internal ground problem with the Wabasto control box but was
able to get it going just in time for the cold weather tonight. I
replaced the bad light bulb and reconnected a wire to the upper EL
panel and all is well.
>
> I have driven it about 25,000 miles since purchase.
>
> Price is determined between a willing buyer and willing seller. I
did not pay $40,000 for it, I paid about $5,000 over NADA book at the
time. For starters, I could not duplicate the interior for any
negotiated difference.
>
> I am happy that I did because it has served me very well. I expect
it to continue to provide excellent service in years to come. If all
goes well, I'm gonna find out next month on the way to Quartzsite and
back. Knock on wood, so far so good.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> brad barton <bbartonwx@...> wrote:
> Wow, no deposit refund? We sold our Newell sight-unseen just pics,
email and phone conversations. My buyer sent a $10K deposit check and
wire-transferred the rest as he left Ohio for Texas.
> Two things stand out about this deal. A..it's a non-coach dealer.
That says the coach was spun off by someone for a little bit of
nothing to a dealer with some cash and probably little knowledge of
coaches or inclination to fix it up for a buyer. B..it's a non-coach
dealer with a sharp lawyer who know whether he's liable to be sued.
I'm sorry for your loss and disappointment.
>
> I'm assuming most on this forum bought their coaches used..and sold
other coaches in trade. I'd be interested in how and from whom you
bought and sold..and what you would do differently if you could.
> We bought our first two coaches from Pat Poor, manager of Friendly
Chevrolet's Blue Bird dealership. He was a private used dealer when
we bought our first coach, an 84FC in 1998. He bought a lot of
overage from Buddy Gregg just a mile away. It was clean, 65,000 miles
and almost trouble free for the 10 months we owned it. I sold it
privately in about two months on the internet for my original
purchase price.
> My second coach was also from Pat..a consignment 86 Newell with
131000 miles. A lot more trouble and costly upgrades, but a pleasure
to drive. Watertight integrity was problem. We had more leaks than
anything else, sunroof leaks, waterpipe leaks and window leaks..and
each caused more damage than the leak itself. Also needed new aux
compressor, airbags, brakes, air valves, refrigerator, two of three
furnaces, two dash airs, etc.
> Lesson-learned...if a consignment coach, find out how long it sat
outside and inside and under what conditions. I'm not likely to buy a
consignment coach again. We owned it for 4 years, pumped a ton of
money into it..and sold it for $30,000 under the purchase price.
> Our current coach, the LXi, has had a few problems..slide-baseboard
popped off..toilet compressor and now flexible waterline to be
replaced, engine access door broken, floor chirps in the hallway and
assorted rattles and squeaks. But it had only 36000 miles. We bought
it from Paul Davis at Mr. Olivers. I've never been totally satisfied
with any deal and always disappointed to find plenty to fix on my
coach right after purchase, but the people we know wiith new coaches
are usually in a constant state of anger against their new dealers
even when under warranty.
>
> New coach from New Coach dealer
> Used coach from New Coach dealer
> Used coach from Used dealer
> Consignment coach from New or Used dealer
> Brand A used coach from Brand A dealer
> Off-brand used coach from Brand A dealer
> Used Coach from individual..and how structured?
> What percentage deposit, wire transfer or check?
> Trade or buy and sell outright?
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFWbbartonwx@...
> __________________________________________________________
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making a difference.
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[Leroy Eckert]

I drew it out and had a company do it because I did not have all the tools to
get it done. Planer, table say, chop saw, sander, routers all that stuff, or 18'
table to put it on.
It is red oak stained with golden oak stain to match the woodwork in the coach.
It was sprayed with 4 coats of clear lacquer. The frame was milled to include
12v rope lights and on top of that an Acrylic mirror was used. The lights
reflect from the mirror. The company also removed the old plastic plates over
the a/c units and fabricated new covers that divert the air horizontally instead
of down. The result is near silence with the a/c running. The wiring for the
rope light was attached to an existing accessory switch over the entry door. The
whole assembly is mounted to the roof structure with screws and runs from the
front TV to the kitchen exhaust fan. While at it, the company made a cover for
my kitchen fan with a mirror slide and installed 12v halogen lights in the bath
replacing the florescent ones. The complete project took about 60 man hours.
I wish I had done the bedroom while I was at it. Maybe someday. Pictures are on
this site under photos, Leroy Eckert's upgrades if interested.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

dspithaler@... wrote: Leroy
    How did you do you lighted ceiling? I am always looking for ways to
change the interior of mine.Â

Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

-----Original Message-----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 4:07 pm
Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1985 PT40 6V $39,000 in Pa- Avoid this one!

The coach I own is the first one I have ever owned. I stumbled upon it on the
internet. At the time, I knew nothing about a bus or a forum. Having restored
several collector cars, re-skinned and completely rebuilt an airplane from the
ground up, that means every piece laying on the floor to begin with (I even flew
it for 500 hours) I wasn't particularly concerned because I am able to repair
stuff when I get motivated.

I did look a one privately owned Prevost, 10 Birds owned by a dealer, and the
privately owned one now in the driveway. What I purchased was the best I could
find for the money at the time. I knew it was different based upon the others I
looked at but did not know why. I later determined with Bennie's help at BB that
it was a Royale Conversion. Mine too was sold by Pat Poor to its second owner. I
have the invoice for that sale. I am the 4th owner.

I purchased the coach in January 2004, stayed in it one night with temps in the
teens, drove it for 15 minutes the next day. Everything worked except one light
bulb and the overhead EL panel..The engine and genset areas were clean, the bays
were like new and the wiring I looked at was in near perfect shape. I left a
personal check for $5000 non-refundable and I returned the following weekend to
pay the difference with a cashiers check.

I have not had any significant problems with the coach. I have changed the
tires, added a lighted and mirrored ceiling, changed the Primus LP to Wabasto
diesel, added polished stainless trim, LED lights and changed all the hoses in
the genset area, all elective. The only real unscheduled maintenance items to
date are an engine water pump, had to rebuild the Thomas toilet compressor pump
and the motor on the Fantastic fan failed. I did remove the Easy Heat freeze
heaters because they shorted out and fried a water pipe. I recently had an
internal ground problem with the Wabasto control box but was able to get it
going just in time for the cold weather tonight. I replaced the bad light bulb
and reconnected a wire to the upper EL panel and all is well.

I have driven it about 25,000 miles since purchase.

Price is determined between a willing buyer and willing seller. I did not pay
$40,000 for it, I paid about $5,000 over NADA book at the time. For starters, I
could not duplicate the interior for any negotiated difference.

I am happy that I did because it has served me very well. I expect it to
continue to provide excellent service in years to come. If all goes well, I'm
gonna find out next month on the way to Quartzsite and back. Knock on wood, so
far so good.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

brad barton <bbartonwx@...> wrote:
Wow, no deposit refund? We sold our Newell sight-unseen just pics, email and
phone conversations. My buyer sent a $10K deposit check and wire-transferred the
rest as he left Ohio for Texas.
Two things stand out about this deal. A..it's a non-coach dealer. That says the
coach was spun off by someone for a little bit of nothing to a dealer with some
cash and probably little knowledge of coaches or inclination to fix it up for a
buyer. B..it's a non-coach dealer with a sharp lawyer who know whether he's
liable to be sued. I'm sorry for your loss and disappointment.

I'm assuming most on this forum bought their coaches used..and sold other
coaches in trade. I'd be interested in how and from whom you bought and
sold..and what you would do differently if you could.
We bought our first two coaches from Pat Poor, manager of Friendly Chevrolet's
Blue Bird dealership. He was a private used dealer when we bought our first
coach, an 84FC in 1998. He bought a lot of overage from Buddy Gregg just a mile
away. It was clean, 65,000 miles and almost trouble free for the 10 months we
owned it. I sold it privately in about two months on the internet for my
original purchase price.
My second coach was also from Pat..a consignment 86 Newell with 131000 miles. A
lot more trouble and costly upgrades, but a pleasure to drive. Watertight
integrity was problem. We had more leaks than anything else, sunroof leaks,
waterpipe leaks and window leaks..and each caused more damage than the leak
itself. Also needed new aux compressor, airbags, brakes, air valves,
refrigerator, two of three furnaces, two dash airs, etc.
Lesson-learned...if a consignment coach, find out how long it sat outside and
inside and under what conditions. I'm not likely to buy a consignment coach
again. We owned it for 4 years, pumped a ton of money into it..and sold it for
$30,000 under the purchase price.
Our current coach, the LXi, has had a few problems..slide-baseboard popped
off..toilet compressor and now flexible waterline to be replaced, engine access
door broken, floor chirps in the hallway and assorted rattles and squeaks. But
it had only 36000 miles. We bought it from Paul Davis at Mr. Olivers. I've never
been totally satisfied with any deal and always disappointed to find plenty to
fix on my coach right after purchase, but the people we know wiith new coaches
are usually in a constant state of anger against their new dealers even when
under warranty.

New coach from New Coach dealer
Used coach from New Coach dealer
Used coach from Used dealer
Consignment coach from New or Used dealer
Brand A used coach from Brand A dealer
Off-brand used coach from Brand A dealer
Used Coach from individual..and how structured?
What percentage deposit, wire transfer or check?
Trade or buy and sell outright?
Brad Barton 00LXiDFWbbartonwx@...
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