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10-31-2007, 13:58
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Ryan,
I start to blend at about 50 degrees. So in 50 degrees I will add about 10 % ratio of petro diesel to biodiesel to make sure the cloud point is lowered. Typically I don't have any problems doing this. Al Johnson '96 BMC B75 Perry, Ga ( Attending RITV & RATS ) Mandeville, Louisiana --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright" > > I'm quite interested in this subject as well. In fact, I found a > source for waste oil last week who can provide me with ~20 gallons a > week - my first 20 gallons is here in jugs and now I need to do > something with it. > > Al, someone told me it's a bad idea to run bio in any concentration > below 50 degrees. That true? > > -Ryan > > On 10/29/07, Al > > > > Michael, > > I can help you out. I would recommend a 50 gallon processor. I > > have my last setup for sale.. 750.00 and I can show you how to use > > it. If you want to do you own that is not a problem. I will gladly > > help you out. > > > > Al Johnson > > '96 BMC 37 B75 > > Mandeville, Louisiana ( Currently at RITV ) > |
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11-05-2007, 07:34
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Al,
Really?? So you run B100 during the summer, and ~B90 during the winter, and you're OK? -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 On 10/31/07, Al > > Ryan, > I start to blend at about 50 degrees. So in 50 degrees I will add > about 10 % ratio of petro diesel to biodiesel to make sure the cloud > point is lowered. Typically I don't have any problems doing this. > > Al Johnson > '96 BMC B75 > Perry, Ga ( Attending RITV & RATS ) > Mandeville, Louisiana |
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11-05-2007, 07:49
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Ryan,
Sure do.. For the 3 or 4 days of winter we have in the deep south. So you must take into account your usage. For instance, I just returned from RITV and changed my percentage to account for the coolness of the nights. Wife does not like taking a cold shower and neither do I for that matter if you know what I mean. :o> So I typically blend for the aquahot so I know the racor filter will pass the biodiesel to the burner. I ended up with B75 when I topped off at the last flying J before heading over to Perry. Plus I use my bird almost on a daily basis even if only for 10 - 15 miles. Biodiesel is not going to hold up for more than 6 months storage so if you are putting your toy to rest for the winter, better to top off with Petro. But if you are like me, Biodiesel is the way to go. Cummins is now saying you can use B5 in older engines and B20 in new ones. Mark my words, in 2010 when the next round of emmissions goes into affect, you will probably see higher percentages of Biodiesel acceptance so they can lower the emissions. Al Johnson '96 BMC B75 => B100 Mandeville, Louisiana --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright" > > Al, > > Really?? So you run B100 during the summer, and ~B90 during the > winter, and you're OK? > > -Ryan > '86 PT-40 8V92 > > On 10/31/07, Al > > > > Ryan, > > I start to blend at about 50 degrees. So in 50 degrees I will add > > about 10 % ratio of petro diesel to biodiesel to make sure the cloud > > point is lowered. Typically I don't have any problems doing this. > > > > Al Johnson > > '96 BMC B75 > > Perry, Ga ( Attending RITV & RATS ) > > Mandeville, Louisiana > |
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11-05-2007, 10:13
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Thanks for the info, Al. We don't take our Bird out daily, but I do
bring everything up to operating temperature and go for a drive every 2 to 4 weeks at a minimum. I don't plan to ever winterize and will use the coach all year 'round. We'll take several trips to visit family and burn through a couple tanks of fuel every winter, so it won't just sit and rot. Have you had problems with leaking hoses, etc? Your coach is a decade newer than mine and may not have needed anything. I realize I will go through several racor filters after first introducing bio, which isn't a worry, but the thought of leaking fuel lines concerns me. -Ryan On 11/5/07, Al > > Ryan, > Sure do.. For the 3 or 4 days of winter we have in the deep > south. So you must take into account your usage. For instance, I > just returned from RITV and changed my percentage to account for the > coolness of the nights. Wife does not like taking a cold shower and > neither do I for that matter if you know what I mean. :o> So I > typically blend for the aquahot so I know the racor filter will pass > the biodiesel to the burner. I ended up with B75 when I topped off > at the last flying J before heading over to Perry. Plus I use my > bird almost on a daily basis even if only for 10 - 15 miles. > Biodiesel is not going to hold up for more than 6 months storage so > if you are putting your toy to rest for the winter, better to top off > with Petro. But if you are like me, Biodiesel is the way to go. > Cummins is now saying you can use B5 in older engines and B20 in new > ones. Mark my words, in 2010 when the next round of emmissions goes > into affect, you will probably see higher percentages of Biodiesel > acceptance so they can lower the emissions. > > Al Johnson > '96 BMC B75 => B100 > Mandeville, Louisiana |
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11-05-2007, 10:26
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Ryan,
Yes you can count on it. How fast they will start leaking will depend on the % used and how many gallons go thru them. Basically bio-diesel is a cleaner and will clean out your whole fuel system. And it will attach fuel lines from the inside out. It will also quiet down your engine with all the lubrication. Bob Loomas and I just replaced my line going to Aquahot and generator. When I took the line to napa for replacement, they commented that it was not fuel grade hose. Anyway that is a debate for someone else. Took us better part of a week but now we can drop one and put it back up within a day. So if you ever try, let me know and I will give you soem pointers. Al Johnson '96 BMC B75 ==> B100 Mandeville, Louisiana --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright" > > Thanks for the info, Al. We don't take our Bird out daily, but I do > bring everything up to operating temperature and go for a drive every > 2 to 4 weeks at a minimum. I don't plan to ever winterize and will use > the coach all year 'round. We'll take several trips to visit family > and burn through a couple tanks of fuel every winter, so it won't just > sit and rot. > > Have you had problems with leaking hoses, etc? Your coach is a decade > newer than mine and may not have needed anything. I realize I will go > through several racor filters after first introducing bio, which isn't > a worry, but the thought of leaking fuel lines concerns me. > > -Ryan > > > On 11/5/07, Al > > > > Ryan, > > Sure do.. For the 3 or 4 days of winter we have in the deep > > south. So you must take into account your usage. For instance, I > > just returned from RITV and changed my percentage to account for the > > coolness of the nights. Wife does not like taking a cold shower and > > neither do I for that matter if you know what I mean. :o> So I > > typically blend for the aquahot so I know the racor filter will pass > > the biodiesel to the burner. I ended up with B75 when I topped off > > at the last flying J before heading over to Perry. Plus I use my > > bird almost on a daily basis even if only for 10 - 15 miles. > > Biodiesel is not going to hold up for more than 6 months storage so > > if you are putting your toy to rest for the winter, better to top off > > with Petro. But if you are like me, Biodiesel is the way to go. > > Cummins is now saying you can use B5 in older engines and B20 in new > > ones. Mark my words, in 2010 when the next round of emmissions goes > > into affect, you will probably see higher percentages of Biodiesel > > acceptance so they can lower the emissions. > > > > Al Johnson > > '96 BMC B75 => B100 > > Mandeville, Louisiana > |
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11-05-2007, 10:27
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Ryan,
But they will not fail over-night, you will receive plenty of warning. Al Johnson '96 BMC B75 ==> B100 Mandeville, Louisiana --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright" > > Thanks for the info, Al. We don't take our Bird out daily, but I do > bring everything up to operating temperature and go for a drive every > 2 to 4 weeks at a minimum. I don't plan to ever winterize and will use > the coach all year 'round. We'll take several trips to visit family > and burn through a couple tanks of fuel every winter, so it won't just > sit and rot. > > Have you had problems with leaking hoses, etc? Your coach is a decade > newer than mine and may not have needed anything. I realize I will go > through several racor filters after first introducing bio, which isn't > a worry, but the thought of leaking fuel lines concerns me. > > -Ryan > > > On 11/5/07, Al > > > > Ryan, > > Sure do.. For the 3 or 4 days of winter we have in the deep > > south. So you must take into account your usage. For instance, I > > just returned from RITV and changed my percentage to account for the > > coolness of the nights. Wife does not like taking a cold shower and > > neither do I for that matter if you know what I mean. :o> So I > > typically blend for the aquahot so I know the racor filter will pass > > the biodiesel to the burner. I ended up with B75 when I topped off > > at the last flying J before heading over to Perry. Plus I use my > > bird almost on a daily basis even if only for 10 - 15 miles. > > Biodiesel is not going to hold up for more than 6 months storage so > > if you are putting your toy to rest for the winter, better to top off > > with Petro. But if you are like me, Biodiesel is the way to go. > > Cummins is now saying you can use B5 in older engines and B20 in new > > ones. Mark my words, in 2010 when the next round of emmissions goes > > into affect, you will probably see higher percentages of Biodiesel > > acceptance so they can lower the emissions. > > > > Al Johnson > > '96 BMC B75 => B100 > > Mandeville, Louisiana > |
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11-08-2007, 11:06
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On 11/5/07, Al
> > So if you ever try, let me know and I will give you > soem pointers. > I appreciate that - thank you! -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 |
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05-30-2008, 13:09
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I failed to type one letter in a link on my post. I will try again.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/28/business/dow.php Hopefully I have it correct this time. |
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05-30-2008, 13:39
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That would be good. We will see.
David Brady
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05-30-2008, 14:29
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And on a brighter note we have biodiesel from algae farms: http://gas2.org/2008/03/29/first-algae-b...il-1-2008/ David, '02 LXi, NC (quality now restored) Leroy A. Eckert wrote:
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