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Driving lights -operation?
10-30-2007, 18:08
Post: #21
Driving lights -operation?
----- Original Message ----
From: Tom McCarthy
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:18:01 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?

TTS McC,
Let me know how you wire it up. I would like them to work correctly. Sounds like
some more BB creative thinking, like the backwards wiring on the trailer plug.
Kurt Horvath
'95 PT-42 WLWB

Kurt,

Apparently, fog lights and driving lights are two different concept.
While my dash switch reads, "Driving/Fog Lights," I found that they
only worked with HIGH beams on. This configuration is
considered "Driving" lights.

I always used "Fog" lights with low beams. My Driving/Fog lights do
not work with Low beams. In fog, therefore, they are useless. Since
I rarely travel with High beams, I am having them switched to work as
normal "Fog" lights with low beams. To each his own.

Tommy Two Shoes McCarthy
Driving fast and easy in Poway Ca for John Finn's sake
95 PT42

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Kurt Horvath
wrote:
>
> Leroy,
>
> I like that kind of talk. Let there be light! Does anybody have any
idea why my fog lights only work when the high beams are on? Turn on
the dash switch for the fog lights, nothing! They only work with the
driving lights on high beam. Recently, I took the headlight switch
apart to firm up the contacts, the running lights were going in and
out. I didn't check to see if the fog lights were connected to the
main switch, but there are four wires connected to it. Any help would
be great.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> '95 PT-42 WLWB
> 10ACEeeee
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Leroy Eckert
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:23:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?
>
> I went to Napa and purchased a set of halogen lights. I installed
them using a relay and a seperate switch. I use them for day
recognition lights. That way none of the other electrical lighting
system is on. When I need light at night as I recently did in a dark
campground in the GA mountains I have Ten lights shining. I hope no
one wants to sleep. lol 6 halogen headlights, 2 driving lights and 2
spot lights. Turn on the landing lights and the world lights up.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
>
> Curt Sprenger wrote: Bill,
> You always do it right. I was talking with Marty Haberman a few
days ago. He
> is rewiring his headlights. Marty and I agreed that the driving
lights
> should be on their own switch/control.
>
> On 10/30/07, pattypape wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I have not followed this thread,
> > But I have driving lights mounted in the bumper, (Not air
> > activated). I was unhappy with the high / low beam set-up. So I
> > rewired, and now turn on the driving lights with the on/off switch
> > only, not the high beam switch.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > "thomas_sorrentino"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
So
> > far
> > > I've figured out:
> > > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
> > brake
> > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
adjustable?
> > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
escapes
> > from
> > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
> > up.
> > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> > >
> > > Tom Sorrentino
> > > 1987 PT38
> > > Bedford Hills, NY
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
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10-30-2007, 19:04
Post: #22
Driving lights -operation?
Tommy,

Driving lights are white and, if wired correctly, can only be used with
hi-beams. They should go off automatically when you switch to lo-beams.

Fog lamps, if wired properly, should only work in lo-beam and throw a yellow
light. Yellow does not reflect from the fog as does white light.

Fog lamps should be mounted as low as possible, driving lights as high as
the law allows. In OK, I think its 44 inches off the ground, your state may
be different.

And lights should be paired, two of each.

Lessons learned from 5 years in England (Can you say FOG?)

Dave
In Oklahoma
98 Harley Davidson Road Glide, 85,000 miles in five years of fog, rain, snow
and sunshine!

-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom McCarthy
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:18 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?

Kurt,

Apparently, fog lights and driving lights are two different concept.
While my dash switch reads, "Driving/Fog Lights," I found that they
only worked with HIGH beams on. This configuration is
considered "Driving" lights.

I always used "Fog" lights with low beams. My Driving/Fog lights do
not work with Low beams. In fog, therefore, they are useless. Since
I rarely travel with High beams, I am having them switched to work as
normal "Fog" lights with low beams. To each his own.

Tommy Two Shoes McCarthy
Driving fast and easy in Poway Ca for John Finn's sake
95 PT42
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10-30-2007, 22:21
Post: #23
Driving lights -operation?
I guess it is just how the factory wire things some times. I have a Jeep & a
Saab that the running lights only come on with the low beams & they were
wired that way from the factory & they are both clear & not fog lights. The
lower lights give you a better lit up road & I don't ever have anyone tip there
lights at me. The coach only comes on with the high beams & they are clear &
the air operated swing down.

Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA Tommy,

Driving lights are white and, if wired correctly, can only be used with
hi-beams. They should go off automatically when you switch to lo-beams.

Fog lamps, if wired properly, should only work in lo-beam and throw a yellow
light. Yellow does not reflect from the fog as does white light.

Fog lamps should be mounted as low as possible, driving lights as high as
the law allows. In OK, I think its 44 inches off the ground, your state may
be different.

And lights should be paired, two of each.

Lessons learned from 5 years in England (Can you say FOG?)

Dave
In Oklahoma
98 Harley Davidson Road Glide, 85,000 miles in five years of fog, rain, snow
and sunshine!

-----Original Message-----
From: _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
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10-30-2007, 23:22
Post: #24
Driving lights -operation?
Mine work with the high beams also. Doesn't make much sense does it.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA

Kurt Horvath wrote: Leroy,

I like that kind of talk. Let there be light! Does anybody have any idea why my
fog lights only work when the high beams are on? Turn on the dash switch for the
fog lights, nothing! They only work with the driving lights on high beam.
Recently, I took the headlight switch apart to firm up the contacts, the running
lights were going in and out. I didn't check to see if the fog lights were
connected to the main switch, but there are four wires connected to it. Any help
would be great.

Kurt Horvath
'95 PT-42 WLWB
10ACEeeee

----- Original Message ----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:23:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?

I went to Napa and purchased a set of halogen lights. I installed them using a
relay and a seperate switch. I use them for day recognition lights. That way
none of the other electrical lighting system is on. When I need light at night
as I recently did in a dark campground in the GA mountains I have Ten lights
shining. I hope no one wants to sleep. lol 6 halogen headlights, 2 driving
lights and 2 spot lights. Turn on the landing lights and the world lights up.
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA

Curt Sprenger wrote: Bill,
You always do it right. I was talking with Marty Haberman a few days ago. He
is rewiring his headlights. Marty and I agreed that the driving lights
should be on their own switch/control.

On 10/30/07, pattypape wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I have not followed this thread,
> But I have driving lights mounted in the bumper, (Not air
> activated). I was unhappy with the high / low beam set-up. So I
> rewired, and now turn on the driving lights with the on/off switch
> only, not the high beam switch.
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com com>,
> "thomas_sorrentino"
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So
> far
> > I've figured out:
> > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
> brake
> > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable?
> > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes
> from
> > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
> up.
> > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> >
> > Tom Sorrentino
> > 1987 PT38
> > Bedford Hills, NY
> >
>
>
>

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1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

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10-31-2007, 04:58
Post: #25
Driving lights -operation?
Do,

Daytime running lights and driving lights aren't the same thing.

Running lights automatically go off when the headlights are turned on. Kind
of like a headlight modulator on a motorcycle, automatically turning off
when headlights are required. As in after sunset. The Feds have determined
that the bright daytime running lights allow drivers to confuse cars and
motorcycles, so the daytime running lights are on the way out after several
years of lowering the brightness.

I would be very surprised if you could walk into a Big 3 showroom and have a
salesman accurately tell you the operation of the lights in accordance with
Federal law. But I'm sure they could answer the "company spiel" as to how to
use them!

Thus the problem with driving after dark and you can't tell what lights, hi
or lo, are coming at you.

Dave
In Oklahoma
98 Harley Davidson Road Glide, 85,000 miles in five years of fog, rain,
snow
and sunshine!




-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dspithaler@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:21 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?

I guess it is just how the factory wire things some times. I have a Jeep &
a
Saab that the running lights only come on with the low beams & they were
wired that way from the factory & they are both clear & not fog lights. The

lower lights give you a better lit up road & I don't ever have anyone tip
there
lights at me. The coach only comes on with the high beams & they are clear
&
the air operated swing down.

Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA Tommy,

Driving lights are white and, if wired correctly, can only be used with
hi-beams. They should go off automatically when you switch to lo-beams.

Fog lamps, if wired properly, should only work in lo-beam and throw a
yellow
light. Yellow does not reflect from the fog as does white light.

Fog lamps should be mounted as low as possible, driving lights as high as
the law allows. In OK, I think its 44 inches off the ground, your state may
be different.

And lights should be paired, two of each.

Lessons learned from 5 years in England (Can you say FOG?)

Dave
In Oklahoma
98 Harley Davidson Road Glide, 85,000 miles in five years of fog, rain,
snow
and sunshine!

-----Original Message-----
From: _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
(mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com)
[mailto:_WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
(mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of Tom McCarthy
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:18 PM
To: _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?

Kurt,
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10-31-2007, 08:21
Post: #26
Driving lights -operation?
Curt,
Thanks for the compliment, you are a kind person,

It is easy , but finding the driving light wire is detective work.
I found it near the headlight relays, ( original on the 88FC ).
The relays were beyond your left foot , only accessible from the front
headlight area. Cut the wire, add a fuse and connect to 12 volts.
The driving lights will operate off of their existing On/Off switch.

Bill 88 FC Michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Bill,
> You always do it right. I was talking with Marty Haberman a few
days ago. He
> is rewiring his headlights. Marty and I agreed that the driving
lights
> should be on their own switch/control.
>
> On 10/30/07, pattypape wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I have not followed this thread,
> > But I have driving lights mounted in the bumper, (Not air
> > activated). I was unhappy with the high / low beam set-up. So I
> > rewired, and now turn on the driving lights with the on/off switch
> > only, not the high beam switch.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "thomas_sorrentino"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working.
So
> > far
> > > I've figured out:
> > > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help.
> > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a
> > brake
> > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
adjustable?
> > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
escapes
> > from
> > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing
> > up.
> > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> > >
> > > Tom Sorrentino
> > > 1987 PT38
> > > Bedford Hills, NY
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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10-31-2007, 18:30
Post: #27
Driving lights -operation?
Kurt,

I rewired mine with the best tool in my toolbox: American Express. I
will ask how they did it on Friday when I pick it up from Holland
Motor Homes here in San Diego.

Tom 2 Shooze McCarthy
Poway CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Kurt Horvath
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tom McCarthy
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:18:01 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?
>
> TTS McC,
> Let me know how you wire it up. I would like them to work
correctly. Sounds like some more BB creative thinking, like the
backwards wiring on the trailer plug.
> Kurt Horvath
> '95 PT-42 WLWB
>
> Kurt,
>
> Apparently, fog lights and driving lights are two different
concept.
> While my dash switch reads, "Driving/Fog Lights," I found that they
> only worked with HIGH beams on. This configuration is
> considered "Driving" lights.
>
> I always used "Fog" lights with low beams. My Driving/Fog lights do
> not work with Low beams. In fog, therefore, they are useless. Since
> I rarely travel with High beams, I am having them switched to work
as
> normal "Fog" lights with low beams. To each his own.
>
> Tommy Two Shoes McCarthy
> Driving fast and easy in Poway Ca for John Finn's sake
> 95 PT42
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Kurt Horvath
> wrote:
> >
> > Leroy,
> >
> > I like that kind of talk. Let there be light! Does anybody have
any
> idea why my fog lights only work when the high beams are on? Turn
on
> the dash switch for the fog lights, nothing! They only work with
the
> driving lights on high beam. Recently, I took the headlight switch
> apart to firm up the contacts, the running lights were going in and
> out. I didn't check to see if the fog lights were connected to the
> main switch, but there are four wires connected to it. Any help
would
> be great.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > '95 PT-42 WLWB
> > 10ACEeeee
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Leroy Eckert
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:23:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?
> >
> > I went to Napa and purchased a set of halogen lights. I installed
> them using a relay and a seperate switch. I use them for day
> recognition lights. That way none of the other electrical lighting
> system is on. When I need light at night as I recently did in a
dark
> campground in the GA mountains I have Ten lights shining. I hope no
> one wants to sleep. lol 6 halogen headlights, 2 driving lights and
2
> spot lights. Turn on the landing lights and the world lights up.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, GA
> >
> > Curt Sprenger wrote: Bill,
> > You always do it right. I was talking with Marty Haberman a few
> days ago. He
> > is rewiring his headlights. Marty and I agreed that the driving
> lights
> > should be on their own switch/control.
> >
> > On 10/30/07, pattypape wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > I have not followed this thread,
> > > But I have driving lights mounted in the bumper, (Not air
> > > activated). I was unhappy with the high / low beam set-up. So I
> > > rewired, and now turn on the driving lights with the on/off
switch
> > > only, not the high beam switch.
> > >
> > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > "thomas_sorrentino"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights
working.
> So
> > > far
> > > > I've figured out:
> > > > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > > > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual
help.
> > > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like
a
> > > brake
> > > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
> adjustable?
> > > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
> escapes
> > > from
> > > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights
swing
> > > up.
> > > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> > > >
> > > > Tom Sorrentino
> > > > 1987 PT38
> > > > Bedford Hills, NY
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
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10-31-2007, 18:34
Post: #28
Driving lights -operation?
Dave,

You hit the nail on the head. These lights are mounted very low on
the front bumper, just like fog lights on cars. It does not make
sense to use them with HIGH beams as driving lights, in my opinion.
The lenses are clear, not yellow like the Brits. So are my cars,
even the Astin Martin. Wait, I am not sure the AM has fog lights.
Hmmm.

Tommy Two Shoes McCarthy
Poway CA
95 PT42


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "David Erickson"
wrote:
>
> Tommy,
>
> Driving lights are white and, if wired correctly, can only be used
with
> hi-beams. They should go off automatically when you switch to lo-
beams.
>
> Fog lamps, if wired properly, should only work in lo-beam and throw
a yellow
> light. Yellow does not reflect from the fog as does white light.
>
> Fog lamps should be mounted as low as possible, driving lights as
high as
> the law allows. In OK, I think its 44 inches off the ground, your
state may
> be different.
>
> And lights should be paired, two of each.
>
> Lessons learned from 5 years in England (Can you say FOG?)
>
> Dave
> In Oklahoma
> 98 Harley Davidson Road Glide, 85,000 miles in five years of fog,
rain, snow
> and sunshine!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom McCarthy
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:18 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?
>
> Kurt,
>
> Apparently, fog lights and driving lights are two different
concept.
> While my dash switch reads, "Driving/Fog Lights," I found that they
> only worked with HIGH beams on. This configuration is
> considered "Driving" lights.
>
> I always used "Fog" lights with low beams. My Driving/Fog lights
do
> not work with Low beams. In fog, therefore, they are useless.
Since
> I rarely travel with High beams, I am having them switched to work
as
> normal "Fog" lights with low beams. To each his own.
>
> Tommy Two Shoes McCarthy
> Driving fast and easy in Poway Ca for John Finn's sake
> 95 PT42
>
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11-01-2007, 08:45
Post: #29
Driving lights -operation?
The difference between driving lights and fog lights is the nature of
the lens. While some fog lights are yellow/amber in color, some are
not. Driving lights are almost always white.

However, you can see the difference as driving lights will project a
beam a long way down the road and fog lights will project a wide, low
angle beam a relatively shorter distance.

I've not bothered to figure out whether my auxiliary lights are fog
lights or driving lights because I rarely drive the beast at night
and even more rarely turn on the extra lights.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart Texas



On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:34 AM, Tom McCarthy wrote:

> Dave,
>
> You hit the nail on the head. These lights are mounted very low on
> the front bumper, just like fog lights on cars. It does not make
> sense to use them with HIGH beams as driving lights, in my opinion.
> The lenses are clear, not yellow like the Brits. So are my cars,
> even the Astin Martin. Wait, I am not sure the AM has fog lights.
> Hmmm.
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11-02-2007, 18:52
Post: #30
Driving lights -operation?
Here is what we did. The Driving/Fog lights had several relays from
the original installation. Instead of pulling out the blue box and
tracing the schematics, we cut the original wires and installed a new
power supply to the lights. Now, with the ignition on, the switch
turns the lights on any time I want; alone, with HIGH beams or with
low beams. Thank you, American Express Platinum. Problem solved.
Actually, it was 1 hour labor and trivial parts costs.


Tommy Two Shoes McCarthy
95 PT42
Poway ca


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
wrote:
>
> Kurt,
>
> I rewired mine with the best tool in my toolbox: American Express.
I
> will ask how they did it on Friday when I pick it up from Holland
> Motor Homes here in San Diego.
>
> Tom 2 Shooze McCarthy
> Poway CA
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Kurt Horvath
> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Tom McCarthy
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:18:01 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?
> >
> > TTS McC,
> > Let me know how you wire it up. I would like them to work
> correctly. Sounds like some more BB creative thinking, like the
> backwards wiring on the trailer plug.
> > Kurt Horvath
> > '95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > Kurt,
> >
> > Apparently, fog lights and driving lights are two different
> concept.
> > While my dash switch reads, "Driving/Fog Lights," I found that
they
> > only worked with HIGH beams on. This configuration is
> > considered "Driving" lights.
> >
> > I always used "Fog" lights with low beams. My Driving/Fog lights
do
> > not work with Low beams. In fog, therefore, they are useless.
Since
> > I rarely travel with High beams, I am having them switched to
work
> as
> > normal "Fog" lights with low beams. To each his own.
> >
> > Tommy Two Shoes McCarthy
> > Driving fast and easy in Poway Ca for John Finn's sake
> > 95 PT42
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Kurt Horvath
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Leroy,
> > >
> > > I like that kind of talk. Let there be light! Does anybody have
> any
> > idea why my fog lights only work when the high beams are on? Turn
> on
> > the dash switch for the fog lights, nothing! They only work with
> the
> > driving lights on high beam. Recently, I took the headlight
switch
> > apart to firm up the contacts, the running lights were going in
and
> > out. I didn't check to see if the fog lights were connected to
the
> > main switch, but there are four wires connected to it. Any help
> would
> > be great.
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> > > '95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > 10ACEeeee
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Leroy Eckert
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:23:58 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation?
> > >
> > > I went to Napa and purchased a set of halogen lights. I
installed
> > them using a relay and a seperate switch. I use them for day
> > recognition lights. That way none of the other electrical
lighting
> > system is on. When I need light at night as I recently did in a
> dark
> > campground in the GA mountains I have Ten lights shining. I hope
no
> > one wants to sleep. lol 6 halogen headlights, 2 driving lights
and
> 2
> > spot lights. Turn on the landing lights and the world lights up.
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > > Dahlonega, GA
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger wrote: Bill,
> > > You always do it right. I was talking with Marty Haberman a few
> > days ago. He
> > > is rewiring his headlights. Marty and I agreed that the driving
> > lights
> > > should be on their own switch/control.
> > >
> > > On 10/30/07, pattypape wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > >
> > > > I have not followed this thread,
> > > > But I have driving lights mounted in the bumper, (Not air
> > > > activated). I was unhappy with the high / low beam set-up. So
I
> > > > rewired, and now turn on the driving lights with the on/off
> switch
> > > > only, not the high beam switch.
> > > >
> > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > > > "thomas_sorrentino"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights
> working.
> > So
> > > > far
> > > > > I've figured out:
> > > > > 1.) the high beams have to be on
> > > > > 2.) the suspension has to be up
> > > > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)?
> > > > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual
> help.
> > > > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat
like
> a
> > > > brake
> > > > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it
> > adjustable?
> > > > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air
> > escapes
> > > > from
> > > > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights
> swing
> > > > up.
> > > > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Sorrentino
> > > > > 1987 PT38
> > > > > Bedford Hills, NY
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >
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