The Perfect Bird??
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05-24-2007, 07:03
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The Perfect Bird??
At this point on the curve of learning here is what I think I would
like to own. I know it doesn't exist but I am interested in what you think of my "ideal" 1) 31 ft seventies FC with rear bath (I know there are none) but I like that floor plan and I like the shorter buses. Just don't need more and I like the looks of the older buses especially the 31's. 2) I want a replaced drive line and would prefer maybe a Cummins motor and of course a retarder. I feel I need the additional power and the engine braking for the hills I expect to encounter 3) I would like the bus fully restored and better then new 4) I would like to pay a bunch of money LESS then it's worth. I said Perfert Bird didn't I? Now in truth. I realize I have to get as close as I can to this without out going over the actual retail value. Can I do it? I guess that's the next chapter in the novel. Oh and I would like to see at least 10mpg. There appear to be no newer 31 footers around. Likely the price difference for longer was not that much and people order the longer coaches. So I guess I will try to find a 1984 or newer RB that I can afford. Seems like that is as close as I will come. I could buy an older 31ft and redo it but that is not going to be workable do to the cost. But that would be the perfect Bird for me or at least that's what I think at this point in time. JEH |
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05-24-2007, 07:40
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The Perfect Bird??
In a message dated 5/24/2007 12:51:13 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
billpatty@... writes: click on Before and After, then the 77 FC 31, I have seen this Bird. This is the only one and beautiful. Maybe you can track it to the present owner and convince him to give it away,, I sold my 35FC a few years ago to the fella that felt my 35 was too long. He traded that coach for Jeff Millers 31. He still is driving that coach and he is in his 80's!! More power to him!! and that is one sweet coach. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Livingston, Mt ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-24-2007, 07:50
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The Perfect Bird??
My Opinion........ Your dream is next to impossible,,,,,
But you can see your dream on the Jeff Miller web site. http://www.millercoachworks.com. click on Before and After, then the 77 FC 31, I have seen this Bird. This is the only one and beautiful. Maybe you can track it to the present owner and convince him to give it away,, Very very, Doubtful. Another opinion Then look at the 83 FC 33 it is for sale now, at $38500, Very real price and a very real bargain. also another opinion Bill 88 FC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" wrote: > > At this point on the curve of learning here is what I think I would > like to own. I know it doesn't exist but I am interested in what you > think of my "ideal" > 1) 31 ft seventies FC with rear bath (I know there are none) > but I like that floor plan and I like the shorter buses. Just don't > need more and I like the looks of the older buses especially the 31's. > 2) I want a replaced drive line and would prefer maybe a > Cummins motor and of course a retarder. I feel I need the additional > power and the engine braking for the hills I expect to encounter > 3) I would like the bus fully restored and better then new > 4) I would like to pay a bunch of money LESS then it's worth. > I said Perfert Bird didn't I? > > Now in truth. I realize I have to get as close as I can to this > without out going over the actual retail value. Can I do it? I > guess that's the next chapter in the novel. Oh and I would like to > see at least 10mpg. There appear to be no newer 31 footers around. > Likely the price difference for longer was not that much and people > order the longer coaches. > So I guess I will try to find a 1984 or newer RB that I can afford. > Seems like that is as close as I will come. > I could buy an older 31ft and redo it but that is not going to be > workable do to the cost. But that would be the perfect Bird for me > or at least that's what I think at this point in time. JEH > |
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05-24-2007, 08:35
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The Perfect Bird??
Bill, I agree completely. There are two listed right now that I
would like to check out. One is the one you mentioned the other is the RB Dan has for sale at $42k I have the first week off in August and I plan to get around to look at a couple of these coaches if still available. I can't get away before then and I understand the realities of waiting. I figure if I am patient I will eventually get close to what I want. I will have to compromise some I am certain. And then you never know. Might just get lucky. That 77 in Millers before and after is just the ticket. John > > > My Opinion........ Your dream is next to impossible,,,,, > > But you can see your dream on the Jeff Miller web site. > > http://www.millercoachworks.com. > > click on Before and After, then the 77 FC 31, I have seen this > Bird. This is the only one and beautiful. Maybe you can track it > to the present owner and convince him to give it away,, > Very very, Doubtful. Another opinion > > Then look at the 83 FC 33 it is for sale now, at $38500, > Very real price and a very real bargain. also another opinion > > Bill 88 FC > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" > wrote: > > > > At this point on the curve of learning here is what I think I would > > like to own. I know it doesn't exist but I am interested in what > you > > think of my "ideal" > > 1) 31 ft seventies FC with rear bath (I know there are none) > > but I like that floor plan and I like the shorter buses. Just > don't > > need more and I like the looks of the older buses especially the > 31's. > > 2) I want a replaced drive line and would prefer maybe a > > Cummins motor and of course a retarder. I feel I need the > additional > > power and the engine braking for the hills I expect to encounter > > 3) I would like the bus fully restored and better then new > > 4) I would like to pay a bunch of money LESS then it's > worth. > > I said Perfert Bird didn't I? > > > > Now in truth. I realize I have to get as close as I can to this > > without out going over the actual retail value. Can I do it? I > > guess that's the next chapter in the novel. Oh and I would like to > > see at least 10mpg. There appear to be no newer 31 footers around. > > Likely the price difference for longer was not that much and people > > order the longer coaches. > > So I guess I will try to find a 1984 or newer RB that I can > afford. > > Seems like that is as close as I will come. > > I could buy an older 31ft and redo it but that is not going to be > > workable do to the cost. But that would be the perfect Bird for me > > or at least that's what I think at this point in time. JEH > > > |
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05-24-2007, 12:55
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The Perfect Bird??
Here's my template for the Perfect Bird:
FC: Detroit Diesel 6V53T (225 HP) with Allison MT-643R or Cummins 6CTA8.3 (240 HP) with Allison MT-643R PT: Detroit Diesel 8V92TA DDEC (440 or 475 HP) with Allison HTB-748 (actually this particular template is for real) PT (if pre-1982): Detroit Diesel 8V71N (318 HP) or 8V71T (350 HP) with Allison HT-740 What do you think? Ben --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" wrote: > > At this point on the curve of learning here is what I think I would > like to own. I know it doesn't exist but I am interested in what you > think of my "ideal" > 1) 31 ft seventies FC with rear bath (I know there are none) > but I like that floor plan and I like the shorter buses. Just don't > need more and I like the looks of the older buses especially the 31's. > 2) I want a replaced drive line and would prefer maybe a > Cummins motor and of course a retarder. I feel I need the additional > power and the engine braking for the hills I expect to encounter > 3) I would like the bus fully restored and better then new > 4) I would like to pay a bunch of money LESS then it's worth. > I said Perfert Bird didn't I? > > Now in truth. I realize I have to get as close as I can to this > without out going over the actual retail value. Can I do it? I > guess that's the next chapter in the novel. Oh and I would like to > see at least 10mpg. There appear to be no newer 31 footers around. > Likely the price difference for longer was not that much and people > order the longer coaches. > So I guess I will try to find a 1984 or newer RB that I can afford. > Seems like that is as close as I will come. > I could buy an older 31ft and redo it but that is not going to be > workable do to the cost. But that would be the perfect Bird for me > or at least that's what I think at this point in time. JEH > |
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05-25-2007, 04:37
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The Perfect Bird??
On 5/24/07, Benjamin Edge
> > Here's my template for the Perfect Bird: > > PT: Detroit Diesel 8V92TA DDEC (440 or 475 HP) with Allison HTB-748 > (actually this particular template is for real) Hey, that's my Bird exactly. Good that someone else recognizes MINE is the perfect one! LOL!! ;-) -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 475hp / Allison HTB-748 (I think that's the right tranny number - going off memory since I don't have the docs in front of me) Tri-Cities, WA |
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