Dead Batteries

[soxmark2000]

Went to storage to start bus & generator after three weeks of sitting.
Left 12 Volt master on and all the batteries were totally dead. Jumped
the gen to start it. Let it run for 1 1/2 hours. Bus still would not
start. Turned off gen. Volt meter read batteries charged to 10 volts.
Went back today to start gen and charge batteries some more. Gen
battery dead. House batteries totally dead. Checked charge to
batteries yesterday: 12 volts. Did I ruin all batteries, house and
gen? They were all replaced 5 months ago.
Yeah, I know, I had another senior moment leaving the switch on.
Mark
88 PT40
San Diego 75 & sunny

[olinerider]

Had the same thing happen once in a remote location,
after all was said and done I found out that a relay
that need to trip for the generator to charge house
and engine batteries must have en excess of 10 volts.
I learned later that all I would have had to do was
jump the engine batteries off my tow vehicle or
another vehicle to get a jump on the batteries long
enough to trip the relay so the engine batteries could
be charged. My coach was also a 40 ft. with the
8V92.......

--- soxmark2000 <MDahlAssc@...> wrote:

> Went to storage to start bus & generator after three
> weeks of sitting.
> Left 12 Volt master on and all the batteries were
> totally dead. Jumped
> the gen to start it. Let it run for 1 1/2 hours.
> Bus still would not
> start. Turned off gen. Volt meter read batteries
> charged to 10 volts.
> Went back today to start gen and charge batteries
> some more. Gen
> battery dead. House batteries totally dead.
> Checked charge to
> batteries yesterday: 12 volts. Did I ruin all
> batteries, house and
> gen? They were all replaced 5 months ago.
> Yeah, I know, I had another senior moment leaving
> the switch on.
> Mark
> 88 PT40
> San Diego 75 & sunny
>
>
>




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[Dan Saari]

Just went out to the bird for the first time in about 2 weeks and the
batteries are stone dead..... I did notice when I plugged it in 2
weeks ago that the polarity little lights in the electrical cord door
compartment ,,only 1 of the 2 lights lit up... I also can tell that the
charger is not working cause I could always hear it running ..
I have a freedom inverter charger...... I,m thinking a breaker or
something has tripped ,,but that is just a guess. need some help here
from those that know the electrical stuff....... thanks DAN

92 WLWB 40ft.
Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.

[Leroy Eckert]

Dan:
Is it possible that one leg is lost.Check the overhead volt guages for power.
(120 volt legs) My coach inverter/charger uses leg 1. Check the main breakers,
mine are above the bed.


Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL



----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Saari
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] dead batteries



Just went out to the bird for the first time in about 2 weeks and the
batteries are stone dead..... I did notice when I plugged it in 2
weeks ago that the polarity little lights in the electrical cord door
compartment ,,only 1 of the 2 lights lit up... I also can tell that the
charger is not working cause I could always hear it running ..
I have a freedom inverter charger...... I,m thinking a breaker or
something has tripped ,,but that is just a guess. need some help here
from those that know the electrical stuff....... thanks DAN

92 WLWB 40ft.
Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.





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[Dan Saari]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> Dan:
> Is it possible that one leg is lost.Check the overhead volt guages
for power. (120 volt legs) My coach inverter/charger uses leg 1.
Check the main breakers, mine are above the bed.
>
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>. Leroy.... Checked the main breaker and it is ok....My overhead
gauges are for my generator only I believe....I am going to buy a
meter to check if I,ve lost a leg cause there is 0 nothing notta no
power anywhere in my coach> ... Dan
> 92 WLWB 40ft.
> Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[smquandt]

Dan



I had a problem very similar to this in mid October when I took my coach to
FL. Generator powered all circuits but like you nothing from shore power,
surge protector would not let any thing through on 50, 30 or 20 amps. I
just put it off to bad wiring at the camp ground, dropped it off at
Parliament Coach in St. Petersburg and flew home. I got a call from them a
week later that they could not get shore power to work either. They were
going to check from the plug back to the surge protector and see if the
problem was in the cord / plug / connections before the surge protector,
don't know what they found but I'll follow up today and let you know.



On the gauges mine read for both shore power and the generator.



Steve Quandt

Iron Mountain, MI

1993-PT40



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From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Saari
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:42 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dead batteries



--- In WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> Dan:
> Is it possible that one leg is lost.Check the overhead volt guages
for power. (120 volt legs) My coach inverter/charger uses leg 1.
Check the main breakers, mine are above the bed.
>
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>. Leroy.... Checked the main breaker and it is ok....My overhead
gauges are for my generator only I believe....I am going to buy a
meter to check if I,ve lost a leg cause there is 0 nothing notta no
power anywhere in my coach> ... Dan
> 92 WLWB 40ft.
> Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dan Saari]

Hey Guys ,, thanks for the help ... I got it figured out with a
meter checking it back from the plug... It was the 40 amp breaker
that went bad on 1 leg and because the charger was,nt working ,,
killed the batteries dead dead... so I,m hoping They hav,nt been hurt
by being run down to nothing......... thanks again... this is the
place to ask the question

1992 WLWB 40 ft.
Summerfield Fl.// Depere wi.












--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "smquandt"
wrote:
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> I had a problem very similar to this in mid October when I took my
coach to
> FL. Generator powered all circuits but like you nothing from shore
power,
> surge protector would not let any thing through on 50, 30 or 20
amps. I
> just put it off to bad wiring at the camp ground, dropped it off at
> Parliament Coach in St. Petersburg and flew home. I got a call
from them a
> week later that they could not get shore power to work either.
They were
> going to check from the plug back to the surge protector and see if
the
> problem was in the cord / plug / connections before the surge
protector,
> don't know what they found but I'll follow up today and let you
know.
>
>
>
> On the gauges mine read for both shore power and the generator.
>
>
>
> Steve Quandt
>
> Iron Mountain, MI
>
> 1993-PT40
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Saari
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:42 AM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dead batteries
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan:
> > Is it possible that one leg is lost.Check the overhead volt
guages
> for power. (120 volt legs) My coach inverter/charger uses leg 1.
> Check the main breakers, mine are above the bed.
> >
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> >
> >
> >. Leroy.... Checked the main breaker and it is ok....My overhead
> gauges are for my generator only I believe....I am going to buy a
> meter to check if I,ve lost a leg cause there is 0 nothing notta no
> power anywhere in my coach> ... Dan
> > 92 WLWB 40ft.
> > Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
> Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[smquandt]

Dan



Pleading ignorance here, the 40 amp breaker is located where???



Steve Quandt

Iron Mountain, Mi

1993-PT40



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From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Saari
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:19 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dead batteries




Hey Guys ,, thanks for the help ... I got it figured out with a
meter checking it back from the plug... It was the 40 amp breaker
that went bad on 1 leg and because the charger was,nt working ,,
killed the batteries dead dead... so I,m hoping They hav,nt been hurt
by being run down to nothing......... thanks again... this is the
place to ask the question

1992 WLWB 40 ft.
Summerfield Fl.// Depere wi.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com, "smquandt"
wrote:
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> I had a problem very similar to this in mid October when I took my
coach to
> FL. Generator powered all circuits but like you nothing from shore
power,
> surge protector would not let any thing through on 50, 30 or 20
amps. I
> just put it off to bad wiring at the camp ground, dropped it off at
> Parliament Coach in St. Petersburg and flew home. I got a call
from them a
> week later that they could not get shore power to work either.
They were
> going to check from the plug back to the surge protector and see if
the
> problem was in the cord / plug / connections before the surge
protector,
> don't know what they found but I'll follow up today and let you
know.
>
>
>
> On the gauges mine read for both shore power and the generator.
>
>
>
> Steve Quandt
>
> Iron Mountain, MI
>
> 1993-PT40
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Saari
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:42 AM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dead batteries
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan:
> > Is it possible that one leg is lost.Check the overhead volt
guages
> for power. (120 volt legs) My coach inverter/charger uses leg 1.
> Check the main breakers, mine are above the bed.
> >
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> >
> >
> >. Leroy.... Checked the main breaker and it is ok....My overhead
> gauges are for my generator only I believe....I am going to buy a
> meter to check if I,ve lost a leg cause there is 0 nothing notta no
> power anywhere in my coach> ... Dan
> > 92 WLWB 40ft.
> > Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
> Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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[jqrjr]

TWWO WEEKS, YOU HAVE A LONELY BIRD!

Assuming the you have a 50A and two 30a conex and the you are feedinf
with 15a have you tried to plug the wire in the other 30a connex?

jqrjr


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Saari"
wrote:
>
>
> Just went out to the bird for the first time in about 2 weeks and
the
> batteries are stone dead..... I did notice when I plugged it in 2
> weeks ago that the polarity little lights in the electrical cord door
> compartment ,,only 1 of the 2 lights lit up... I also can tell that
the
> charger is not working cause I could always hear it running ..
> I have a freedom inverter charger...... I,m thinking a breaker or
> something has tripped ,,but that is just a guess. need some help
here
> from those that know the electrical stuff....... thanks DAN
>
> 92 WLWB 40ft.
> Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.
>

[Gregory OConnor]

Steve, I think the 40AmpB is not on the coach, it's on the supply to
the coach. Sounds like one of the two legs of power never got to the
shore receptical. If you notice a 220, 240 breaker has two flip
switches tied together , sounds like one of the two switches went
bad and the other never switched off. that may be why he had only one
green polarity light. ????

If I have to let my bus stand for several days away from 50 amps, I
plug one of two chargers directly into an extension cord then off to
a docking receptical. I often thought of running a jump from that
mini shore location (charger bay) to the refrigerator (IceBox) for
the low amp docking of refrig and one charger. During the hookup
there would be less danger that use of Electric in the bus will
overload and trip the mini shore breaker.
GregoryO'Connor
94PtRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "smquandt"
wrote:
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Pleading ignorance here, the 40 amp breaker is located where???
>
>
>
> Steve Quandt
>
> Iron Mountain, Mi
>
> 1993-PT40
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Saari
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:19 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dead batteries
>
>
>
>
> Hey Guys ,, thanks for the help ... I got it figured out with a
> meter checking it back from the plug... It was the 40 amp breaker
> that went bad on 1 leg and because the charger was,nt working ,,
> killed the batteries dead dead... so I,m hoping They hav,nt been
hurt
> by being run down to nothing......... thanks again... this is the
> place to ask the question
>
> 1992 WLWB 40 ft.
> Summerfield Fl.// Depere wi.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com, "smquandt"
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a problem very similar to this in mid October when I took
my
> coach to
> > FL. Generator powered all circuits but like you nothing from
shore
> power,
> > surge protector would not let any thing through on 50, 30 or 20
> amps. I
> > just put it off to bad wiring at the camp ground, dropped it off
at
> > Parliament Coach in St. Petersburg and flew home. I got a call
> from them a
> > week later that they could not get shore power to work either.
> They were
> > going to check from the plug back to the surge protector and see
if
> the
> > problem was in the cord / plug / connections before the surge
> protector,
> > don't know what they found but I'll follow up today and let you
> know.
> >
> >
> >
> > On the gauges mine read for both shore power and the generator.
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve Quandt
> >
> > Iron Mountain, MI
> >
> > 1993-PT40
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@ 40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@ 40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Saari
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:42 AM
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: dead batteries
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ 40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan:
> > > Is it possible that one leg is lost.Check the overhead volt
> guages
> > for power. (120 volt legs) My coach inverter/charger uses leg 1.
> > Check the main breakers, mine are above the bed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> > > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > > Niceville, FL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >. Leroy.... Checked the main breaker and it is ok....My overhead
> > gauges are for my generator only I believe....I am going to buy a
> > meter to check if I,ve lost a leg cause there is 0 nothing notta
no
> > power anywhere in my coach> ... Dan
> > > 92 WLWB 40ft.
> > > Summerfield Fl./epere Wi.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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