For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
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09-22-2006, 07:46
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
Randy, good luck with your sale.
Ernie Ekberg 83 PT40 Livingston, Montana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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09-22-2006, 11:20
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let
people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, give it a look. Thanks, Randy "Riffnet" on eBay |
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09-24-2006, 00:09
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
Hi Randy,
Checked out your FC ad on eBay. Nice looking coach. In the interest of accuracy, Bluebird used the 250 hp turbo 3208 from 1984 through 1986 model years. Naturally aspirated 225 hp 3208's were used prior to 1984 model year. While more horsepower is generally better, I think your ad overemphasizes the difference and makes earlier coaches sound like junk, which they aren't. Good luck with your sale! Regards, Eric in San Antonio 84FC35SBWL2 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rf256" > > I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let > people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said > my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, > give it a look. > > Thanks, > Randy > "Riffnet" on eBay > |
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09-24-2006, 00:37
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
In the spirit of "accuracy" the 225 Intercity was installed very late '82 to 83,
it is a turbo-charged engine. NA were of 210hp and CA emission 190hp or something like that. MH ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Johnson To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:09 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: For sale on eBay '87 FC-35 Hi Randy, Checked out your FC ad on eBay. Nice looking coach. In the interest of accuracy, Bluebird used the 250 hp turbo 3208 from 1984 through 1986 model years. Naturally aspirated 225 hp 3208's were used prior to 1984 model year. While more horsepower is generally better, I think your ad overemphasizes the difference and makes earlier coaches sound like junk, which they aren't. Good luck with your sale! Regards, Eric in San Antonio 84FC35SBWL2 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rf256" > > I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let > people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said > my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, > give it a look. > > Thanks, > Randy > "Riffnet" on eBay > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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09-24-2006, 01:40
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
"Historical Note: 1987 is the first year that Bluebird used the
turbocharged 300 horsepower CAT Diesel Engine in these coaches. Until that time, lower horsepower naturally aspirated engines, with much less power, were the norm. So, if you're looking at "vintage 'Birds" you really will like the added power of the 300 CAT, especially when you get into the mountains. It's one BIG reason to buy an '87 rather than an '86 or earlier model!" I dont see where Randy implied that earlier models were junk. His words " much less power" are truthfull. I would call 16.6 % to 25 % much less. As for the remark on mountain driving: I have seen this fact posted by many owners of the lower HP versions. I too would suggest to a wannabee that the 87 to 89 does have more power. However the earlier models do have that "Classic" BlueBird look. The earlier models are certainly not junk. Randy has been trying to sell this unit for a few months and I am sure he wants to see it gone. Anything he can do to make people want his unit is fair. Good luck Randy!! Bruce 1988 FC 35 |
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09-24-2006, 03:54
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
Folks:
I have one of the last model year 83 FC's built and mine is a 250hp turbo - stamped on the plate along with the BB arrangement number - I would assume that most 3208's following mine would have the 250hp turbo (non-CA emission). Harry Saddock 83FC35 South Windsor, CT --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > In the spirit of "accuracy" the 225 Intercity was installed very late '82 to 83, it is a turbo-charged engine. > NA were of 210hp and CA emission 190hp or something like that. > MH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric Johnson > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:09 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: For sale on eBay '87 FC-35 > > > Hi Randy, > Checked out your FC ad on eBay. Nice looking coach. In the interest of accuracy, Bluebird > used the 250 hp turbo 3208 from 1984 through 1986 model years. Naturally aspirated > 225 hp 3208's were used prior to 1984 model year. While more horsepower is generally > better, I think your ad overemphasizes the difference and makes earlier coaches sound like > junk, which they aren't. Good luck with your sale! > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > 84FC35SBWL2 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rf256" wrote: > > > > I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let > > people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said > > my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, > > give it a look. > > > > Thanks, > > Randy > > "Riffnet" on eBay > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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09-24-2006, 06:29
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
Hello Mike, Randy and Company,
OK, I stand corrected on the hp/naturally aspirated/turbo/model year issue. First, let me say that I don't have my FC up for sale and don't intend to anytime soon. I don't consider myself the judge and jury on ebay or other ads, but I'd like to say a couple more things about Randy's eBay ad that prompted me to write about it. One thing I should have said, but didn't, was that I thought Randy did an outstanding job of speaking to the pluses and minuses of his coach. Some folks tend to accentuate the positive and let you see if you can find the negative. The thing that bothered me were some inaccuracies in the "historical note" but more than that was the idea of selling it by saying how superior it was to earlier models. We all recognize that engine horsepower and performance and coach size increased over the years. I'd just prefer that when we decide to sell a coach we do it by listing it's pluses and minuses but without trashing other models. I don't see it done often but I thought it was worth a comment. No offense intended. Regards, Eric in San Antonio 84FC35SBWL2 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > In the spirit of "accuracy" the 225 Intercity was installed very late '82 to 83, it is a turbo- charged engine. > NA were of 210hp and CA emission 190hp or something like that. > MH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric Johnson > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:09 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: For sale on eBay '87 FC-35 > > > Hi Randy, > Checked out your FC ad on eBay. Nice looking coach. In the interest of accuracy, Bluebird > used the 250 hp turbo 3208 from 1984 through 1986 model years. Naturally aspirated > 225 hp 3208's were used prior to 1984 model year. While more horsepower is generally > better, I think your ad overemphasizes the difference and makes earlier coaches sound like > junk, which they aren't. Good luck with your sale! > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > 84FC35SBWL2 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rf256" > > > > I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let > > people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said > > my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, > > give it a look. > > > > Thanks, > > Randy > > "Riffnet" on eBay > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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09-24-2006, 10:39
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
Hi Eric,
I admit limited knowlege of Bluebird production specs. This is a cross-reply so I'm not the person to whom this was intended, just FYI and to avoid confusion. I have owned two different '83 FC 35 coaches and both had the 250 HP TD. That wouldn't be possible if Bluebird didn't offer the turbo until the '84 model year. FWIW.... -Jack -----Original Message----- From: esjmaj@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 7:09 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: For sale on eBay '87 FC-35 Hi Randy, Checked out your FC ad on eBay. Nice looking coach. In the interest of accuracy, Bluebird used the 250 hp turbo 3208 from 1984 through 1986 model years. Naturally aspirated 225 hp 3208's were used prior to 1984 model year. While more horsepower is generally better, I think your ad overemphasizes the difference and makes earlier coaches sound like junk, which they aren't. Good luck with your sale! Regards, Eric in San Antonio 84FC35SBWL2 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rf256" > > I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let > people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said > my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, > give it a look. > > Thanks, > Randy > "Riffnet" on eBay > Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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09-24-2006, 10:46
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
Hi Harry!
Glad to hear you still have the 'bird! Can't tell you how much we enjoyed those photos from your Alaska trip. I was so jealous! We bought another '83 FC 35 two weeks ago. Have since moved to near Houston. A friend who has a large storage warehouse in the downtown area has talked me into selling it to him with the understanding that I can borrow it from time to time for out of town trips. We haven't finalized the deal but most likely will next week. I sure like these coaches... -Jack -----Original Message----- From: hsaddock@... To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 10:54 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: For sale on eBay '87 FC-35 Folks: I have one of the last model year 83 FC's built and mine is a 250hp turbo - stamped on the plate along with the BB arrangement number - I would assume that most 3208's following mine would have the 250hp turbo (non-CA emission). Harry Saddock 83FC35 South Windsor, CT --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: > > In the spirit of "accuracy" the 225 Intercity was installed very late '82 to 83, it is a turbo-charged engine. > NA were of 210hp and CA emission 190hp or something like that. > MH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eric Johnson > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:09 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: For sale on eBay '87 FC-35 > > > Hi Randy, > Checked out your FC ad on eBay. Nice looking coach. In the interest of accuracy, Bluebird > used the 250 hp turbo 3208 from 1984 through 1986 model years. Naturally aspirated > 225 hp 3208's were used prior to 1984 model year. While more horsepower is generally > better, I think your ad overemphasizes the difference and makes earlier coaches sound like > junk, which they aren't. Good luck with your sale! > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > 84FC35SBWL2 > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rf256" wrote: > > > > I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let > > people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said > > my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, > > give it a look. > > > > Thanks, > > Randy > > "Riffnet" on eBay > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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09-25-2006, 00:48
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For sale on eBay '87 FC-35
Hello Jack,
I based my earlier remarks on the model year information on the Vintage Birds website. This discussion has reminded me that Bluebird production transitions features from year to year rather than making a clean break. The main point I originally wanted to make in the first message was that Bluebird produced turbocharged 3208 powered coaches prior to 1987. I'm no expert on this subject either. Regards, Eric 84FC35SBWL2 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, johngilmoremd@... wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > I admit limited knowlege of Bluebird production specs. This is a cross-reply so I'm not the person to whom this was intended, just FYI and to avoid confusion. > > I have owned two different '83 FC 35 coaches and both had the 250 HP TD. That wouldn't be possible if Bluebird didn't offer the turbo until the '84 model year. > > FWIW.... > > -Jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: esjmaj@... > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 7:09 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: For sale on eBay '87 FC-35 > > Hi Randy, > > Checked out your FC ad on eBay. Nice looking coach. In the interest of > > accuracy, Bluebird > > used the 250 hp turbo 3208 from 1984 through 1986 model years. Naturally > > aspirated > > 225 hp 3208's were used prior to 1984 model year. While more horsepower is > > generally > > better, I think your ad overemphasizes the difference and makes earlier coaches > > sound like > > junk, which they aren't. Good luck with your sale! > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio > > 84FC35SBWL2 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rf256" > > > > > > I hope this msg doesn't break any forum rules - just wanting to let > > > people know my '87 BB FC-35 is up for auction on eBay. Others have said > > > my price seems reasonable, so if you're in the market for nice 'Bird, > > > give it a look. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Randy > > > "Riffnet" on eBay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > mailto:WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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