Old men and RV ladders

[pattypape]

Hey Mike,

Tell us about the stainless crane.....

Bill 88 FC Michigan craneless


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I thought the discussion was about having extendable/collapsible
> handrails of some sort to allow standing access to/from the ladder
> on/off the roof.... regardless of the reason for getting up there. I
> don't think the original discussion had anything to do with 'why' we
> we needed to get on the roof, just an easier way to do so with some
> support. Sure would be handy not to have to crawl on and off over
the
> edge like today. Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be that
hard
> to fabricate a couple of 1/2 - 1" stainless square "handles" that
> would lay along the top rails and just pivot up and down when needed
> for steady roof access. Pivot pins could attach to or go right
> through the original hand rail tops (depending how you fabricate
them)
> and the hinge assembly would act as a stop. Hmmmm.... I think I'll
go
> by the shop and do some measuring.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - with mounted tire on top via stainless
> crane assembly; no storage pod, but I'm sure I would fill it if it
had
> one!
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, ebirder2000@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Let's see... we are comparing the expansive basement storage
space
> available
> > in a 97 43' coach to the verrry limited cargo space available in a
> 78 FC 33.
> >
> > Could there be a bigger difference?
> >
> > Steve Anderson (60)
> > 79 FC 35 with 2 storage pods and considering another.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/29/2007 5:27:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > RoyalW1941@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gardner, I too have encountered the problem of getting from the
> > ladder to the roof and standing up. I use a kneeling pad to
crawl
> > onto the roof and get into a better position to stand. I find
the
> > rear roof air conditioner provides some help in keeping my
balance
> > when standing up. The best idea is to stay off the roof as much
as
> > possible when you get as old as I am. I have removed my roof
storage
> > pods so I'm not tempted to store stuff up there. But I still
find
> > myself up there occasionally to do maintenance.
> >
> > Royal Washburn
> > 97 43WL
> >
> > --- In _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
> > (mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) , "Gardner Yeaw"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Somewhow this went fronm ladder estentions to fingers and
rings.
> > > Anyway, after climbing up on the roof today I rethought my
plan. I
> > > really don't neet the taller part of the rail at the back. It
would
> > > serve me better if it rose higher by the goat rail. That way
as I
> > > steped onto the platform I would have the higher part beside
rather
> > > than behind. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
> > >
> > > Gardner
> > > 78FC33
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
> > (mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) , "Gardner Yeaw"

> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I'm not THAT old, but I am over 60 and climbing up the
> > ladder
> > > and
> > > > getting onto the roof is a pain. I have to bend over at the
top
> > to
> > > hold
> > > > on as I get by feet on the platform. Then I stand up with
nothing
> > > to
> > > > hold onto. Of course, to get down I have to do the reverse.
My
> > > knees
> > > > sometimes give way for a moment and my balance reaction time
> > ain't
> > > what
> > > > it used to be, so it feels pretty precarious standing on
that
> > > little
> > > > platform till I get to the roof.
> > > >
> > > > So what I want is a retractable handrail extention at the
top
> > of
> > > the
> > > > ladder so I can get to the top standing up. Has anyone made
> > > something
> > > > like this or seen anything on the market. I have a fair idea
of
> > how
> > > I
> > > > would make it, but I am always open to anyones suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > It would also have too be wired so an alarm sounds if I
leave
> > it
> > > up
> > > > and try to drive off..(my memory ain't what it used to be
either)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gardner
> > > > 78FC33
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the
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> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[mbulriss]

Bill,

The prior owner had it built. Several of the Lone Star Bird members
have examined it, measured it and may have some pictures (Steve
Gureasko, did you take pics?). Basically, they built a bracket that
sits on top of the corner of the goat rail. Leg brackets extend down
past the goat rail and are bolted below the goat rail to hold the
bracket securely on the rail. In the inside corner of the bracket
there is a welded in pipe. Stored on the roof is an "L" shaped pipe
crane arm that slips into the corner pipe. A 5:1 hand crank winch
provides lifting capability. It is all made out of stainless, except
for the winch. I'll try to get some pictures next weekend and post them.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> Tell us about the stainless crane.....
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan craneless
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I thought the discussion was about having extendable/collapsible
> > handrails of some sort to allow standing access to/from the ladder
> > on/off the roof.... regardless of the reason for getting up there. I
> > don't think the original discussion had anything to do with 'why' we
> > we needed to get on the roof, just an easier way to do so with some
> > support. Sure would be handy not to have to crawl on and off over
> the
> > edge like today. Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be that
> hard
> > to fabricate a couple of 1/2 - 1" stainless square "handles" that
> > would lay along the top rails and just pivot up and down when needed
> > for steady roof access. Pivot pins could attach to or go right
> > through the original hand rail tops (depending how you fabricate
> them)
> > and the hinge assembly would act as a stop. Hmmmm.... I think I'll
> go
> > by the shop and do some measuring.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - with mounted tire on top via stainless
> > crane assembly; no storage pod, but I'm sure I would fill it if it
> had
> > one!
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, ebirder2000@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Let's see... we are comparing the expansive basement storage
> space
> > available
> > > in a 97 43' coach to the verrry limited cargo space available in a
> > 78 FC 33.
> > >
> > > Could there be a bigger difference?
> > >
> > > Steve Anderson (60)
> > > 79 FC 35 with 2 storage pods and considering another.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 7/29/2007 5:27:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > RoyalW1941@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gardner, I too have encountered the problem of getting from the
> > > ladder to the roof and standing up. I use a kneeling pad to
> crawl
> > > onto the roof and get into a better position to stand. I find
> the
> > > rear roof air conditioner provides some help in keeping my
> balance
> > > when standing up. The best idea is to stay off the roof as much
> as
> > > possible when you get as old as I am. I have removed my roof
> storage
> > > pods so I'm not tempted to store stuff up there. But I still
> find
> > > myself up there occasionally to do maintenance.
> > >
> > > Royal Washburn
> > > 97 43WL
> > >
> > > --- In _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
> > > (mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) , "Gardner Yeaw"
>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Somewhow this went fronm ladder estentions to fingers and
> rings.
> > > > Anyway, after climbing up on the roof today I rethought my
> plan. I
> > > > really don't neet the taller part of the rail at the back. It
> would
> > > > serve me better if it rose higher by the goat rail. That way
> as I
> > > > steped onto the platform I would have the higher part beside
> rather
> > > > than behind. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
> > > >
> > > > Gardner
> > > > 78FC33
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
> > > (mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) , "Gardner Yeaw"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I'm not THAT old, but I am over 60 and climbing up the
> > > ladder
> > > > and
> > > > > getting onto the roof is a pain. I have to bend over at the
> top
> > > to
> > > > hold
> > > > > on as I get by feet on the platform. Then I stand up with
> nothing
> > > > to
> > > > > hold onto. Of course, to get down I have to do the reverse.
> My
> > > > knees
> > > > > sometimes give way for a moment and my balance reaction time
> > > ain't
> > > > what
> > > > > it used to be, so it feels pretty precarious standing on
> that
> > > > little
> > > > > platform till I get to the roof.
> > > > >
> > > > > So what I want is a retractable handrail extention at the
> top
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > ladder so I can get to the top standing up. Has anyone made
> > > > something
> > > > > like this or seen anything on the market. I have a fair idea
> of
> > > how
> > > > I
> > > > > would make it, but I am always open to anyones suggestions.
> > > > >
> > > > > It would also have too be wired so an alarm sounds if I
> leave
> > > it
> > > > up
> > > > > and try to drive off..(my memory ain't what it used to be
> either)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gardner
> > > > > 78FC33
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the
> > all-new AOL at
> > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

[bubblerboy64]

Something that works like an extension ladder would be the nuts. I
think there would be a real market for it. I know my intension is to
stay off the roof as much as possible. If fact I took down all
the "stuff" the previous owner had up there. I just found getting up
and over entirely too difficult being not only old but short and fat.

John Heckman
Central Pa
1973 FC
>
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> Tell us about the stainless crane.....
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan craneless
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > I thought the discussion was about having extendable/collapsible
> > handrails of some sort to allow standing access to/from the ladder
> > on/off the roof.... regardless of the reason for getting up
there. I
> > don't think the original discussion had anything to do with 'why'
we
> > we needed to get on the roof, just an easier way to do so with
some
> > support. Sure would be handy not to have to crawl on and off
over
> the
> > edge like today. Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be that
> hard
> > to fabricate a couple of 1/2 - 1" stainless square "handles" that
> > would lay along the top rails and just pivot up and down when
needed
> > for steady roof access. Pivot pins could attach to or go right
> > through the original hand rail tops (depending how you fabricate
> them)
> > and the hinge assembly would act as a stop. Hmmmm.... I think
I'll
> go
> > by the shop and do some measuring.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - with mounted tire on top via
stainless
> > crane assembly; no storage pod, but I'm sure I would fill it if
it
> had
> > one!
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, ebirder2000@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Let's see... we are comparing the expansive basement storage
> space
> > available
> > > in a 97 43' coach to the verrry limited cargo space available
in a
> > 78 FC 33.
> > >
> > > Could there be a bigger difference?
> > >
> > > Steve Anderson (60)
> > > 79 FC 35 with 2 storage pods and considering another.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 7/29/2007 5:27:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > RoyalW1941@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gardner, I too have encountered the problem of getting from the
> > > ladder to the roof and standing up. I use a kneeling pad to
> crawl
> > > onto the roof and get into a better position to stand. I find
> the
> > > rear roof air conditioner provides some help in keeping my
> balance
> > > when standing up. The best idea is to stay off the roof as
much
> as
> > > possible when you get as old as I am. I have removed my roof
> storage
> > > pods so I'm not tempted to store stuff up there. But I still
> find
> > > myself up there occasionally to do maintenance.
> > >
> > > Royal Washburn
> > > 97 43WL
> > >
> > > --- In _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
> > > (mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) , "Gardner Yeaw"
>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Somewhow this went fronm ladder estentions to fingers and
> rings.
> > > > Anyway, after climbing up on the roof today I rethought my
> plan. I
> > > > really don't neet the taller part of the rail at the back.
It
> would
> > > > serve me better if it rose higher by the goat rail. That way
> as I
> > > > steped onto the platform I would have the higher part beside
> rather
> > > > than behind. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
> > > >
> > > > Gardner
> > > > 78FC33
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In _WanderlodgeForum@WanderlodgeFWan_
> > > (mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com) , "Gardner Yeaw"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I'm not THAT old, but I am over 60 and climbing up the
> > > ladder
> > > > and
> > > > > getting onto the roof is a pain. I have to bend over at the
> top
> > > to
> > > > hold
> > > > > on as I get by feet on the platform. Then I stand up with
> nothing
> > > > to
> > > > > hold onto. Of course, to get down I have to do the
reverse.
> My
> > > > knees
> > > > > sometimes give way for a moment and my balance reaction
time
> > > ain't
> > > > what
> > > > > it used to be, so it feels pretty precarious standing on
> that
> > > > little
> > > > > platform till I get to the roof.
> > > > >
> > > > > So what I want is a retractable handrail extention at the
> top
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > ladder so I can get to the top standing up. Has anyone
made
> > > > something
> > > > > like this or seen anything on the market. I have a fair
idea
> of
> > > how
> > > > I
> > > > > would make it, but I am always open to anyones suggestions.
> > > > >
> > > > > It would also have too be wired so an alarm sounds if I
> leave
> > > it
> > > > up
> > > > > and try to drive off..(my memory ain't what it used to be
> either)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gardner
> > > > > 78FC33
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the
> > all-new AOL at
> > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

[erniecarpet@...]

In a message dated 7/29/2007 7:04:44 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
sgureasko@... writes:

Hope to see you in Blanco. I have thoughly sealed the bottom
of the coach and am carrying oars and maybe an outboard motor,
if I can mount it somewhere


Steve- what thrust is your outboard??

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Mt
--Yellowstone river getting lower and lower due to no snowpack/rain



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[patticake592000]

If you look at the new Ford SuperDuty trucks, the new tail gate
is just what we need to look at. It has a pole that stands up and
locks in place so you can use it to pull your self up. Also has
a step that pulls out of the tail gate and swings down.



Mike,
I have the pictures. I also have the material to build.
Just waiting on my welder to get free time.
Hope to see you in Blanco. I have thoughly sealed the bottom
of the coach and am carrying oars and maybe an outboard motor,
if I can mount it somewhere.

Steve Gureasko
90WB40 Jus Chillin
Ponchatoula, La.

[mbulriss]

Ernie,

Water level here in the acquifer is less than 3' from the all time
record high. We've had more rain so far in 2007 than in all of 2005
and 2006 combined. Flash floods are a way of live since May. One Boy
Scout Troop camped along side a local river lost 5 vehicles and all
tents and supplies about a week ago, but no one died. One Boy Scout
was quoted as saying they barely had time to get out of the tents when
they heard the roar! So where's the Lone Star Bird Rally event in
Blanco in two weeks? -- Yup, on the low bank of a local river!

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> Mike- how is the water level around your parts? Dry here,
Yellowstone is low
> and muddy.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston, Mt
>
>
>
>
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>

[mbulriss]

Steve,

That Ford tail gate pole is pretty much what I was thinking about as a
ladder extension for the Bird. As for the LSB Rally in Blanco, bring
your water wings - just in case!

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "patticake592000"
<sgureasko@...> wrote:

> If you look at the new Ford SuperDuty trucks, the new tail gate
> is just what we need to look at. It has a pole that stands up and
> locks in place so you can use it to pull your self up. Also has
> a step that pulls out of the tail gate and swings down.
>
>
>
> Mike,
> I have the pictures. I also have the material to build.
> Just waiting on my welder to get free time.
> Hope to see you in Blanco. I have thoughly sealed the bottom
> of the coach and am carrying oars and maybe an outboard motor,
> if I can mount it somewhere.
>
> Steve Gureasko
> 90WB40 Jus Chillin
> Ponchatoula, La.
>

[erniecarpet@...]

Hope all have a good time at the Blanco rally. Wish we could attend.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Mt




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[Gardner Yeaw]

Jack,
I could always hook it on my belt and hoist myself up! But it needs
to lay down so I don't catch low hanging power wires and bridges.
What would be really nice is an air or electric operated platform I
could stand on and just ride to the top. I'd bet there would be a
market for that considering the larger high end motorhomes they sell
today. It could probably be done for $1000 or less. It sure would
make carying those seldom used items up to the roof a bit easier.

Gardner
78FC33 (Just dreaming)


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack & Donna Smith"
wrote:
>
> I just thought of this while reading the post.. Why not install a
> Hoist, (as from Harbor Freight) near the goat rail & the platform?
> Shouldn't be too hard to engineer. It would give you something to
> hang onto, and think of all the Junk the Wife would find to cart
home!
>
> Has anyone tried to build an indoor stairway and Rooftop Viewing
Deck
> like SeeYa (i think) did a couple of years ago?
> Jack Smith
> 1973FC31
> SoCal
> ====================================================================
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> wrote:
> >
> > Gardner,
> > I once say a ladder top extension on a '89FC I was looking at in
So.
> CA. It looked like it was an original BB option and slid up the
> existing ladder and locked into place. Then would slide back down
to
> store. It gave you something to hang on to till you were on top.
The
> way it was designed, it was part of the ladder. I've never seen one
> like it before or since but I think it was a good idea.
> >
> > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gardner Yeaw
> > To:
>
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:46 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Old men and RV ladders
> >
> >
> >
> > Somewhow this went fronm ladder estentions to fingers and
rings.
> > Anyway, after climbing up on the roof today I rethought my
plan. I
> > really don't neet the taller part of the rail at the back. It
would
> > serve me better if it rose higher by the goat rail. That way as
I
> > steped onto the platform I would have the higher part beside
rather
> > than behind. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
> > --- In
>
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om>,
> "Gardner Yeaw"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, I'm not THAT old, but I am over 60 and climbing up the
ladder
> > and
> > > getting onto the roof is a pain. I have to bend over at the
top to
> > hold
> > > on as I get by feet on the platform. Then I stand up with
nothing
> > to
> > > hold onto. Of course, to get down I have to do the reverse.
My
> > knees
> > > sometimes give way for a moment and my balance reaction time
ain't
> > what
> > > it used to be, so it feels pretty precarious standing on that
> > little
> > > platform till I get to the roof.
> > >
> > > So what I want is a retractable handrail extention at the top
of
> > the
> > > ladder so I can get to the top standing up. Has anyone made
> > something
> > > like this or seen anything on the market. I have a fair idea
of how
> > I
> > > would make it, but I am always open to anyones suggestions.
> > >
> > > It would also have too be wired so an alarm sounds if I leave
it
> > up
> > > and try to drive off..(my memory ain't what it used to be
either)
> > >
> > >
> > > Gardner
> > > 78FC33
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[Jack & Donna Smith]

Gardner:...I still like the indoor stairway idea... Hard to get the
Wife to climb the ladder :-(

There are a couple of Forum Members who have the Folding Hoist on
their coaches.. Might even be some pics in the file.

Your mention of electric wires reminds me of when I worked for the
Power Co. We had a car hit a pole and dropped a Guy Wire across the
highway. Well, along comes this MotorHome......Took both A/Cs off
slick as can be...
Jack Smith
1973FC31
SoCal
==================================================================

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Jack,
> I could always hook it on my belt and hoist myself up! But it needs
> to lay down so I don't catch low hanging power wires and bridges.
> What would be really nice is an air or electric operated platform I
> could stand on and just ride to the top. I'd bet there would be a
> market for that considering the larger high end motorhomes they sell
> today. It could probably be done for $1000 or less. It sure would
> make carying those seldom used items up to the roof a bit easier.
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33 (Just dreaming)
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack & Donna Smith"
> wrote:
> >
> > I just thought of this while reading the post.. Why not install a
> > Hoist, (as from Harbor Freight) near the goat rail & the platform?
> > Shouldn't be too hard to engineer. It would give you something to
> > hang onto, and think of all the Junk the Wife would find to cart
> home!
> >
> > Has anyone tried to build an indoor stairway and Rooftop Viewing
> Deck
> > like SeeYa (i think) did a couple of years ago?
> > Jack Smith
> > 1973FC31
> > SoCal
> > ====================================================================
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Gardner,
> > > I once say a ladder top extension on a '89FC I was looking at in
> So.
> > CA. It looked like it was an original BB option and slid up the
> > existing ladder and locked into place. Then would slide back down
> to
> > store. It gave you something to hang on to till you were on top.
> The
> > way it was designed, it was part of the ladder. I've never seen one
> > like it before or since but I think it was a good idea.
> > >
> > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gardner Yeaw
> > > To:
> >
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > om>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:46 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Old men and RV ladders
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Somewhow this went fronm ladder estentions to fingers and
> rings.
> > > Anyway, after climbing up on the roof today I rethought my
> plan. I
> > > really don't neet the taller part of the rail at the back. It
> would
> > > serve me better if it rose higher by the goat rail. That way as
> I
> > > steped onto the platform I would have the higher part beside
> rather
> > > than behind. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
> > >
> > > Gardner
> > > 78FC33
> > >
> > > --- In
> >
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > om>,
> > "Gardner Yeaw"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I'm not THAT old, but I am over 60 and climbing up the
> ladder
> > > and
> > > > getting onto the roof is a pain. I have to bend over at the
> top to
> > > hold
> > > > on as I get by feet on the platform. Then I stand up with
> nothing
> > > to
> > > > hold onto. Of course, to get down I have to do the reverse.
> My
> > > knees
> > > > sometimes give way for a moment and my balance reaction time
> ain't
> > > what
> > > > it used to be, so it feels pretty precarious standing on that
> > > little
> > > > platform till I get to the roof.
> > > >
> > > > So what I want is a retractable handrail extention at the top
> of
> > > the
> > > > ladder so I can get to the top standing up. Has anyone made
> > > something
> > > > like this or seen anything on the market. I have a fair idea
> of how
> > > I
> > > > would make it, but I am always open to anyones suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > It would also have too be wired so an alarm sounds if I leave
> it
> > > up
> > > > and try to drive off..(my memory ain't what it used to be
> either)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gardner
> > > > 78FC33
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>