Explosive Post… Propane Grill

[Bill Garamella]

Greg,

Based on my understanding of your description, it sounds like you have high
pressure coming off the coach to the high pressure regulator on the grill. Is
this so?

Or, did you install a low pressure regulator with a by pass and control unit to
accommodate low pressure line off the coach?

Again, my understanding about safety is that the line feeding the grill from the
propane system on the coach needs to be low pressure.

I really want to be clear about this before I start connecting a grill to my
coach's propane system.

The small bottles work great and provide another redundancy but take up a little
more room and cost per gallon of propane is much higher. I have no idea how long
one of those little bottles will burn. Do you?

Thanks Bill


>
> Bill that's the grill I use or a close China reproduction of it I got at
Lowes. I had an industrial hose shop (the Hoseman Riverside,CA) build the hose
long enough to move the grill to a bench 8 feet away from the bus. I got the
fitting to match the bus outlet from http://www.mbsturgis.com/ I am not sure
your configuration is the same. I use the regulator that came with the
appliance which I can continue to run off of a bottle if I want to place the
grill more remote to the bus.
> I can shut off the gas at the fitting outlet prior to the appliance regulator
and the grill will burn for another 10 min at full tilt. if I dont burn it off
gas pressure, there is a big freeze as I let the pressure out during disconnect.
> My problem with leaving the hooked up grill in the bay is there is no vent in
the floor for falling gas.
> Greg
> ofTim&Greg
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Garamella"
wrote:
> >
> > Explosive Post Propane Grill
> >
> > I decided to get a grill for the coach and found a nice little 304 stainless
infrared unit called the Stow- N- Go on sale at West Marine on sale for just
under $100 < http://tinyurl.com/qndj25 >. It works great and is small enough to
fit in front basement of our FC, gets real hot fast and cools off fast too and
temp is easy to control and cleans up nicely. Although its not heavy duty, its
beefy enough (pun intended).
> >
> > The grill is set up to run on small propane bottles and this works fine.
Like many off the shelf grills, this unit comes equipped with a high-pressure
regulator and in this case the control is on the regulator itself. I wanted to
get a hose and fittings to use with the coach's dedicated Bar-B-Q valve. I just
thought it would be a simple thing to do.
> >
> > I went to the hardware store and told the hardware man what I wanted to do
and he said "Son, I got hose and fittings, but I don't want assist you in making
a bomb. You best go talk with a propane man.
> >
> > I started doing some reading and spoke with a couple of seasoned propane
specialists and the both sources stated to go with low pressure. This is the
safe way and the right to do it. Therefore, one needs to MODIFY the GRILL to
accommodate the factory RV system NOT the other way around.
> >
> > More than once I have heard some members talk about modifying the coach's
propane system to accommodate the grill because they were not getting sufficient
pressure from the on board outlet. This is a real concern to me. Perhaps I'm
making a big deal out of something that is no big deal, but I ain't taking
chances with propane gas NO SIR!
> >
> > With that, I started investigating what I need to do to use the Bar-B-Q
outlet from the coach and learned that the coach is set up with a low-pressure
regulator (6 ounces -10.5 inches water column). Apparently this is an industry
standard for large RV systems and the safest way to run a grill off a large
tank. This is similar to residential installations.
> >
> > "Another often asked question is "I have a low pressure regulator but it
does not seem to supply enough gas for my appliance." Unfortunately, many of
the preset low pressure regulators available in the marketplace use 1/4"ID hose
and some are attached to a propane regulator with a 1/4" NPT (normal pipe
thread) outlet on the propane regulator. There is a limit to the volume of gas
that can be delivered through this small ID hose at a fixed low propane pressure
of 6 ounces . What can you do? Use a low pressure regulator with a 3/8"ID gas
outlet and a gas hose of 3/8"ID. The amount of propane that can be delivered to
the appliance is increased by a factor of 2.26 so the chances of starving your
appliance for propane are greatly diminished. GasHosesandRegulators.com sells
only 3/8" NPT outlet low pressure gas regulators and 3/8"ID low pressure hoses
for this very reason. Our grey hose carries UL , CSA, and American Gas
Association approvals and is designed to supply up to about 100,000 btu/hr of
propane gas."
> >
> > http://www.gashosesandregulators.com/pro...facts.html
> >
> > So, from this I conclude the best way to set up my grill is to
> >
> > • Eliminate the high pressure regulator at the grill
> > • Use low pressure regulator from coach Bar-B-Q outlet 3/8" ID
> > • Low pressure hose 3/8" ID
> > • Install control valve between regulator and grill
> >
> > If I am wrong about this please let me know. Your comments and constructive
criticism are always welcome.
> >
> > Wishing you all a happy and safe Memorial Day!
> >
> > NH Bill 1983 FC 35 "Casa Billisa"
> >
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