Unreasonable town ordinance
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04-12-2007, 02:06
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Unreasonable town ordinance
We solved the problem by purchasing a home in an RV port community.
It's sort of the...."BIRDS OF A FRATHER....." thing Bob 03 m380 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Wright" > > Gardner, > > I feel your pain. I am big on personal property rights and these sort > of things just hack me off. I can understand HOAs doing this, if you > live in a neighborhood like that, that's your choice. But an entire > city? I think it's way over the line when local government starts > enacting HOA-style laws that affect the entire city. I'd say "just sue > them" but we all know that won't get you anywhere, except lighter in > the wallet. > > I live in a city that's full of covenant-type laws, things that should > be dealt with by HOAs but are instead taken up by the city council and > extended to all of us. They haven't flat out said "no" on RVs yet, but > I'm sure it's only a matter of time. I was threatened for parking my > RV on an "unapproved surface" - it was parked on hard, packed soil > next to my house. That's, apparently, illegal. When I contacted a > local councilwoman to ask why, the conversation went something like > this: > > Councilwoman: "Because, weeds will grow around the vehicle." > Me: "I've never had a weed problem. When one occasionally tries to > sprout, I kill it. Come look at my yard, it is very clean and orderly, > you won't find any weeds." > Councilwoman: "Well, YOU might be good at that, but other people aren't." > Me: "So I can't park on my own soil because other people don't take > care of their weeds?" > Councilwoman: "That's right." > Me: "But if I don't park there... I can leave the ground bare, as it is?" > Councilwoman: "Yes." > Me: "So what does parking a vehicle there have anything to do with weeds?" > Councilwoman: "They'll grow under the vehicle and present a fire danger." > Me: "So... Why don't you make a law against weeds?" > Councilwoman: "Oh, we have one of those, too." > Me: "So... Why do you need this law that says I can't park there, then?" > Councilwoman (obviously frustrated with me): "Look, sir... It's for > your own protection!" > Me: "My protection? Does the city consider me a child who needs to be > looked after?" > > She didn't want to talk to me after that. Suffice it to say I was > threatened with $10,000 in fines and a forcible seizure of my home by > police force if I did not pave or gravel my RV's parking spot. > > I put in the gravel. I much preferred the packed soil. It was > comfortable to walk on, nice to lay on when working under the vehicle, > etc. Jerks. > > Interestingly, I just found out the other day why they went after me: > A neighbor down the street thinks my RV is "ugly" and tried to get the > city to force me to remove it. They couldn't, no law to that effect > (yet), so they came by and harassed me on minor details instead. > > -Ryan > > On 4/11/07, Gardner Yeaw > > > > Mike, > > I'd love to build a bird house, but not enough property. The side, > > front and rear yard restrictions won't allow it. I really have no > > reasonable recourse, I knew there was some sort of ordinance, but no > > one bothered me last year. I usually left it at home for 4 or 5 days > > at a streach while I worked on it, and then took it to the storage > > facility where I normally keep it. It is a 20 or so mile ride over > > one lane back roads through a bunch of construction, so it isn't a > > fun ride. > > > > I am looking for a closer facility which will run the cost up from > > $68/month to $100-125, but I will save on fuel, so maybe it will be a > > wash. The problem may be that many facilities, like campgrounds, > > don't allow you to do mechanical work on site. > > > > Gardner, > > 78FC33 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Gardner, > > > > > > When it's the town, you really have few choices other than move it > > or > > > face the fines. If it's a home owner's association, you can ignore > > > them for a long time. Don't ask how I know! HOAs have almost > > always > > > forgotten/chosen not to enforce some other parts of the covenants, > > so > > > it's tough for them to have unilateral enforcement of 'some' > > > convenants and not others. > > > > > > You say it says you can't store it unless you have a garage. Big > > loop > > > hole? How do you think the neighbors will like your new "Bird > > House"? LOL > > > > > > I find it hard to believe that they can restrict the storage of RVs > > at > > > private storage facilities when they also have ordinances against > > > storing them at home. Are you sure about that one? That's a stupid > > > double whammy that effectively prohibits ownership of RVs in that > > > town. Also seems like an ACLU lawsuit waiting to happen. Doesn't > > > FMCA have a lobby group that tackles such restrictive anti-RV > > problems? > > > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > > > San Antonio, TX > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the > > > > driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I > > can > > > > only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any > > year, > > > > unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous. I > > > > also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage > > facilities > > > > because they are afraid you might live in it. > > > > > > > > So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before, > > > > or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage > > > > facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I > > could > > > > keep it on shore power when it was at home. > > > > > > > > Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally > > > > keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the > > > > car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might > > > > encounter. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a > > > > new kitchen addition and other things. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gardner > > > > 78FC33 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Unreasonable town ordinance - Ryan Wright - 04-16-2007, 19:07
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