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05-10-2006, 10:46
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Thanks Tom. Your suggestions were forwarded and received in a very
positive light. We may be on the road to a very healthy relationship with Wanderlodge and that sure couldn't hurt at all. I think management is much more receptive now to suggestions to improve the product, production, service and marketing. Thank you again. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner > > Since Ron brought this up I guess I should extend the courtesy to him > he extended to me and reply. I did send Ron some suggestions that I > believe could make a difference for all of us and certainly the > factory. It doesnt matter what year coach you own, when people buy a > new Bluebird they normally trade in their old one and it is recycled > to another Bluebird owner wishing to move up. I believe this is a > very important aspect of ownership that Bluebird recognizes. Its > called brand loyalty. You have positive feelings about owning your > Bluebird and you wish to buy a newer one after a few years. > > I early on took a very personal interest in Bluebird after buying the > 1982 FC35, and on the way home from buying it in Houston, Texas, > stopping at Fort Valley, touring the factory and the Birds Nest and > witnessing many of the different procedures in building and > supporting a bluebird...and Bluebird owners. The personnel there were > superb and gave me absolutely no indication that they valued a > customer with a 20 plus year old coach any less then a owner of a new > one. That is a very different concept then other motorhome owners get > primarily since very few other 1982 motorhomes are on the road. > Bluebird should keep capitalizing on this. I have sat down and > talked to Bennie Collier many times, as I have with Ray Horne and > many others at Bluebird, each and every one of them had vast > corporate knowledge that I found invaluable. Each and everyone of > them is not only courteous but helpful beyond anything that I could > have imagined. I obtained all of the engineering drawings for the > 1982 within days of purchasing it, and did the same while going thru > Fort Vally on the way home from purchasing the 1985 PT 40. > > Contrary to what some may believe there is very little difference > between many of the Bluebird motorhome products as I was to find out > later, as it relates to suspensions, engines, transmissions, shocks, > body panels, glass etc. I am fortunate to have a database of Bluebird > products that includes school buses, tour buses, transit buses and of > course Bluebird Wanderlodges, that very quickly allows me to search > for a specific part and tell me all of the Bluebird products that it > is used on. You would be amazed at how many parts used on a 2004 LXI > are used on school buses, tour buses etc. Its a nice thing to have > when you are trying to restore a Bluebird for I can quickly buy parts > from any Bluebird Schoolbus, transit bus etc dealer if Fort Vally > doesnt have it. For example the Bluebird TC2000 school bus > windshield is the same one used on my 1982 FC35, exactly the same > right down to the top tint, and the school bus mechanics near me are > very proficient at working on the forward controls. When I had the > accident with the 1982 in Nashville, Tennesse , Bluebird parts did > not have the new battery door and front drivers panel, as they no > longer stocked them. However the local Bluebird School bus dealer > about 15 miles from me had a compete fabrication metal shop and made > the new panels for it, repaired the damage, painted it, and made it > as good as new. With all of these school bus and tour bus dealers > Bluebird has nationwide, doesnt it make sense to use them to servide > the Wanderlodges of any year? Bluebird could have the largest dealer > network of any motorhome manufacturer. > > There are different things I covered in the email to Ron but I am > sure many of you have many many more ideas based on your experiences > with your Bluebird. If you honestly want to see them survive then > now is the time to try and help. > > Tom Warner > Vernon Center,NY > 1985 PT 40 > > > ( > > > At 01:00 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote: > >O.K. Guys. Let's keep this friendly and not personal. As a matter of > >information: Tom did send me some positive suggestions this evening > >and they all were valid. I asked Tom to post them to start a dialogue. > > > >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles" > > > > > > > > thats why the systems are multiplexed they follow an industry standard > > > for ease of repair one or two diagnostic ports to access all the > > > electrical systems.The information bus on the 450 can be accessed from > > > the outside of the coach if need be. The canbus is industry standard > > > for almost all heavy vehicles do a search and read and learn > > > Tom wake up and smell the diesel it is easier to diagnose a problem on > > > a 450 than it ever was on a older lxi. > > > quit ragging on how good the old were and how simple it was and how > > > bad Bluebird is. It is not 1985 anymore > > > At the risk of being booted by the moderators either put up or shut up > > > nuff said > > > Stephen 77fc35 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote: > > > > > > > > David you have a 2002 LXI , its a beautiful coach and complicated > > > > from the aspect of the many redundant systems and lots of work to > > > > keep it running at its peak. The engine and transmission should be no > > > > problem since it is used by many other over the road trucks and > > > > buses. But honestly how many repair facilities have you been able to > > > > find that can work on the rest of the coach, and that you have > > > > confidence in? The M450 is many levels above the LXI when it comes > > > > to finding a repair shop that can keep one running, with multiplexed > > > > wiring and manabloc plumbing. Open the panels up and look at the > > > > wiring and relays and most mechanics will scratch their heads and > > > > button everything back up. What I am saying is that there are now > > > > many many nice coaches out there, a condition that did not exist when > > > > Bluebird was in its prime. Anyone can design and build a beautiful > > > > motorhome now but the real problem is keeping it repaired. Buy one > > > > here in New York state and who is going to repair it? > > > > > > > > Tom Warner > > > > Vernon Center,NY > > > > 1985 PT 40 > > > > > > > > > > > > . know At 05:53 PM 5/9/2006, you wrote: > > > > >I want to see them succeed too Tom. I test drove the 450 the > > > > >other day and it is a great coach. Should appeal to a wide audience. > > > > >We'll have to wait and see. > > > > > > > > > >David Brady > > > > >'02 LXi, Smokey > > > > >Va > > > > > > > > > >Tom Warner wrote: > > > > > > With this in mind does anyone else see something that I dont see > > > that > > > > > > will pull Bluebird out of this nose dive? I honestly want to > > > see them > > > > > > succeed and continue producting good coaches but? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Warner > > > > > > Vernon Center,NY > > > > > > 1985 PT 40 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > > > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recr > > eational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repa\ ir&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational\ +vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=_jXmbh7qWHD7DSskzUir3w>http://groups.yahoo.com/gads\ ?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+f\ inancing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recrea\ tional+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=_jXmbh7qWHD7DS\ skzUir3w>Recreational > > > > > > > >vehicles > > > > > > > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+financin > > g&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+veh\ icle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Rec\ reational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=f_xgT1AKZsKXD6CT0_3nwg>http://groups.yahoo\ .com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recr\ eational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicl\ e+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.\ sig=f_xgT1AKZsKXD6CT0_3nwg>Recreational > > > > > > > >vehicle financing > > > > > > > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w > > 1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicl\ e+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recrea\ tional+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=0EDYS_wXU1aorG4893QXpQ>http://groups.yahoo.co\ m/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreation\ al+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rent\ al&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=0E\ DYS_wXU1aorG4893QXpQ>Recreational > > > > > > > >vehicle repair > > > > > > > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w > > 1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicl\ e+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recrea\ tional+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LNSmSf785IF1UlbWHRIOLA>http://groups.yahoo.co\ m/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreation\ al+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rent\ al&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LN\ SmSf785IF1UlbWHRIOLA>Recreational > > > > > > > >vehicle rental > > > > > > > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w > > 1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicl\ e+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recrea\ tional+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=LoIo4UxSgNx-IyPMRku1lQ>http://groups.yahoo.co\ m/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreation\ al+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rent\ al&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=Lo\ Io4UxSgNx-IyPMRku1lQ>Recreational > > > > > > > >vehicle camper > > > > > > > > > ><<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rate&w1= > > Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+vehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+\ repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreati\ onal+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=N3ia10-EgZXwB7kJhwD4dw>http://groups.yahoo.com/\ gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+rate&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Recreational+v\ ehicle+financing&w3=Recreational+vehicle+repair&w4=Recreational+vehicle+rental&w\ 5=Recreational+vehicle+camper&w6=Recreational+vehicle+rate&c=6&s=193&.sig=N3ia10\ -EgZXwB7kJhwD4dw>Recreational > > > > > > > >vehicle rate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > >YAHOO! 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BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 01:01
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BB Direct Sales info - David Brady - 05-09-2006, 06:29
BB Direct Sales info - George Lowry - 05-09-2006, 07:31
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 09:17
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BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 11:51
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 11:54
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 12:02
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