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BB Direct Sales info
05-09-2006, 12:56
Post: #13
BB Direct Sales info
Folks, well I will keep this short my "rant" is on another forum.
Quite honestly and from my experience (remember I was there at the
RATS Rally and had a face to face) BlueBird could care less about
this internet crowd, we own, for the most part, used older coaches,
THAT WERE ALREADY SOLD ONCE from a dealer. BlueBird only makes money
from parts we buy, a serious far cry from saving the company. They
MUST SELL NEW UNITS

Lets all be real here.

For example and I quote from the sales force of "ONE" "next year NO
ONE will enter the rally without paying for it"...I would have a hard
time dropping $500.00 just TO LOOK even if I was serious about a new
coach...I know John Bleakley and Mike M appreciated the guys at the
RATS rally from NY and IN that came to look! The roses and flowers we
all got in the follow up from the rally were NOT THE SAME from the
dealers...who did not sell a coach but incurred major expense. So
someone does not have a realistic view of their market! I could offer
a guess..probably the guy sitting in Ft Valley trying to figure out
what to do.

So listening to "corporate damage control" is just that! They were
spewing all is well before they even entered the Las Vegas court.

NOW IF WE REALLY WANT TO PUT IT ON THE TABLE.. If BB really cares
about what opinions/criticisms we on the forums have... WHY DOESNT
SOMEONE FROM THE MARKETING SIDE OF THE COMPANY SPEAK UP??? Have an
open discussion. Maybe my third line above really tells the story...

I have said it before and STILL believe it...the folks that have
poured their lives into making our coaches what they are; are the
ones suffering...THEY DESERVE BETTER...

Scott B
86FC35
SC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
>
> I don't think we are helping BB by constantly critcizing their every
> move. What we need to be doing is suggesting ways for them to
> succeed. I'd be glad to pass on whatever information that would be
> positive. Surely among all our talents and knowledge, we could
> assist. That frankly, what was what Fred wanted when he first asked
> us to move forward together.
>
> I'm not an automotive sales expert, but I know their are a few here
on
> the forum. If they have a better answer, then let's here it. Tom,
> you always have a comment, so how about a positive one that would be
> usefull. It is easy to be critical, but difficult to lead the way.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
> >
> > David would you care to explain this again, " they extended the
> > dealers additional price breaks " ??? confused>
> >
> > If the factory sells to the dealers via "additional price breaks"
> > isn't that actually lowering the suggested list price? And how
is the
> > factory going to make additional money this way? One of the
problems
> > today is that the retail price of Motorhomes is so cloaked in
mumbo
> > jumbo. "Suggested list price" really doesnt mean anything
anymore.
> >
> > There is tremendous overhead connected with designing,
manufacturing,
> > selling , and stock piling parts to support the high end
> > motorhomes. I have seen the decline of the parts department
over
> > the last 4 years. The technical staff has been reduced from 4-5
to
> > Bennie Collier alone. Parts about the same and it is difficult
to get
> > parts for BB now no matter what the year.
> >
> > With this in mind does anyone else see something that I dont see
that
> > will pull Bluebird out of this nose dive? I honestly want to see
them
> > succeed and continue producting good coaches but?
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > Vernon Center,NY
> > 1985 PT 40
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 02:29 PM 5/9/2006, you wrote:
> > >Simple, weeks ago when the factory was negotiating selling direct
> > >with the dealers, they extended the dealers additional price
breaks,
> > >which the factory can now make up for by selling direct.
Therefor,
> > >we benefit by getting the "finest motorcoach at the most
attractive
> > >price".
> > >
> > >David Brady,
> > >'02 LXi
> > >
> > >Tom Warner wrote:
> > > > Ron if there is no downside to any dealer then does that mean
that
> > > > the factory will not discount the coaches below what the
dealers are
> > > > selling them for? If this is the case then how can they
possibly
> > > > lower the price to be competitive in todays market like the
> > > > announcement indicated? Here is what the factory
announced. ""The
> > > > efficiency of factory-direct sales will allow Blue Bird to
offer our
> > > > customers the finest motorcoach with the best service at the
most
> > > > attractive price," said Fred VanDenBerg, Blue Bird
> > > > Coachworks'director of motorcoach sales and marketing." Does
this
> > > > mean that each dealer will have a certain area in which the
factory
> > > > will not sell coaches direct?
> > > >
> > > > It appears that at least one dealer , John Bleakley, does not
like
> > > > the program since they are no longer a dealer. This has got
to be a
> > > > very bad sign for Bluebird. Time will tell.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Warner
> > > > Vernon Center,NY
> > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > >
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Messages In This Thread
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 01:01
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 02:50
BB Direct Sales info - David Brady - 05-09-2006, 06:29
BB Direct Sales info - George Lowry - 05-09-2006, 07:31
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 09:17
BB Direct Sales info - David Brady - 05-09-2006, 09:53
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 10:21
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 11:51
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 11:54
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 12:02
BB Direct Sales info - Wallace Craig - 05-09-2006, 12:32
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 12:49
BB Direct Sales info - Scott - 05-09-2006 12:56
BB Direct Sales info - smquandt - 05-09-2006, 13:08
BB Direct Sales info - Mike Hohnstein - 05-09-2006, 13:34
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 13:40
BB Direct Sales info - Stephen Birtles - 05-09-2006, 13:42
BB Direct Sales info - Gregory OConnor - 05-09-2006, 16:56
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-09-2006, 17:00
BB Direct Sales info - George Lowry - 05-09-2006, 17:12
BB Direct Sales info - Tom Warner - 05-09-2006, 17:56
BB Direct Sales info - Blair - 05-10-2006, 01:44
BB Direct Sales info - Gregory OConnor - 05-10-2006, 02:43
BB Direct Sales info - George Lowry - 05-10-2006, 05:00
BB Direct Sales info - erniecarpet@... - 05-10-2006, 07:13
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006, 10:39
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006, 10:46
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006, 10:58
BB Direct Sales info - ronmarabito2002 - 05-10-2006, 11:29
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