Help with Air Throttle
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01-27-2008, 00:47
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Help with Air Throttle
Hi Don,
That is a good question, I was able to disassemble the original valve, to get things working, But this is not a good solution, it works but now leaks air. All the local NAPA , truck parts stores, do not stock this part. So, AllenAir Corp. gave me the location of a distributor in Tampa. http://www.allenair.com/ Even the distributors do not stock this valve, AllenAir, holds the stock, drop ships and distributor (middle man) makes the profit. Plus there was a minimum order. But I am still really Happy. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Spithaler" > > Bill > I'm glad you have it fixed. Nothing like having trouble in your own > drive way. I don't even mind that.I have one of those valves for my > Horton fan on the curb side engine compartment on the frame rail & I > have seen the one in my drivers side engine compartment for the Bendix > cruise control. Where were you able to find one? > Don spithaler > 89 SP 36' > Butler, PA In Zephyrhills, FL > > On Jan 26, 2008 7:45 PM, pattypape > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > This solenoid, that I referred to in the post, controls the air flow > > to the Foot throttle, in conjuction with the Bendix Cruise Control. > > On the 88 FC front engine it is located, under the coach between > > the engine and battery box on the driver side. It is behind a steel > > cover mounted to a steel box about 12" x 14" x 2". > > Inside this box are all the associated parts for the Bendix cruise, > > including the valves, solenoids, electronic module and lots of copper > > pipe connecting all the stuff together, It is quiet a RAT's nest. > > On an SP it is in the rear, driver side on the engine fire wall, open > > and easy to see and work on. BB used this valve in several areas to > > control air flow. > > I do not know if your 88 PT Bird uses this system or where it would > > be located. > > > > The valve looks like this: > > http://www.allenair.com/2-3wayvalves.htm > > > > Or a better view here: > > > > http://www.allenair.com/pdf/2-3WayValves.pdf > > > > go to page #3 and scroll to the bottom , left side, > > it is labeled " Grommet Housing Suffix G" > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "maureyroad" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Bill, Where is the 12V solenoid that controls > > > air pressure flow? > > > Dan > > > 88pt38 > > > Jackson, MS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We fired up the Bird, after not running it for about two months, > > > > > and we have no foot throttle acceleration. > > > > > > > > > > Our 88 FC has a Williams air control foot trottle. > > > > > And a Bendix Cruise Controll. > > > > > > > > > > Both the foot throttle and the cruise control, share the same > > air > > > > > throttle cylinder. > > > > > This air cylinder with the attached cable to the injection > > pump, > > > > > works great, for the high / low idle, that is set by the > > > Resume/Set > > > > > switches on the Bendix Cruise. > > > > > The foot brake also lowers the idle. > > > > > > > > > > It appears that the Cruise control is out of the circuit > > > > > when turned "Off". The cruise worked great on our last trip. > > > > > > > > > > So is there a check valve or air solenoid switch in the air > > > > plumbing > > > > > between the air supply and the foot throttle?? Where is it > > > > located?? > > > > > > > > > > Any help or ideas are needed and welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I was able to get some information from the drawings, that > > Ralph > > > > has > > > > > in the files. > > > > > But these seem to be for a 6V or 8V and may be different than > > our > > > > FC. > > > > > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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01-29-2008, 02:57
Post: #12
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Help with Air Throttle
Bill,
Good to hear you are going again. From personal experience, I know that throttle system can be disheartening. Thanks for sharing what you found. You mentioned a "minimum order" for the valves. If you had to buy more than you need, let me know and I'll buy one from you to have on hand. Rick 87FC35 Rochester, MN --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" wrote: > > > Hi Don, > > That is a good question, > I was able to disassemble the original valve, > to get things working, But this is not a good solution, it works but > now leaks air. > All the local NAPA , truck parts stores, do not stock this part. > So, AllenAir Corp. gave me the location of a distributor in Tampa. > http://www.allenair.com/ > Even the distributors do not stock this valve, AllenAir, holds the > stock, drop ships and distributor (middle man) makes the profit. > Plus there was a minimum order. > > But I am still really Happy. > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Donald Spithaler" > > > > > Bill > > I'm glad you have it fixed. Nothing like having trouble in your > own > > drive way. I don't even mind that.I have one of those valves for my > > Horton fan on the curb side engine compartment on the frame rail & I > > have seen the one in my drivers side engine compartment for the > Bendix > > cruise control. Where were you able to find one? > > Don spithaler > > 89 SP 36' > > Butler, PA In Zephyrhills, FL > > > > On Jan 26, 2008 7:45 PM, pattypape > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > This solenoid, that I referred to in the post, controls the air > flow > > > to the Foot throttle, in conjuction with the Bendix Cruise > Control. > > > On the 88 FC front engine it is located, under the coach between > > > the engine and battery box on the driver side. It is behind a > steel > > > cover mounted to a steel box about 12" x 14" x 2". > > > Inside this box are all the associated parts for the Bendix > cruise, > > > including the valves, solenoids, electronic module and lots of > copper > > > pipe connecting all the stuff together, It is quiet a RAT's nest. > > > On an SP it is in the rear, driver side on the engine fire wall, > open > > > and easy to see and work on. BB used this valve in several areas > to > > > control air flow. > > > I do not know if your 88 PT Bird uses this system or where it > would > > > be located. > > > > > > The valve looks like this: > > > http://www.allenair.com/2-3wayvalves.htm > > > > > > Or a better view here: > > > > > > http://www.allenair.com/pdf/2-3WayValves.pdf > > > > > > go to page #3 and scroll to the bottom , left side, > > > it is labeled " Grommet Housing Suffix G" > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "maureyroad" > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Bill, Where is the 12V solenoid that controls > > > > air pressure flow? > > > > Dan > > > > 88pt38 > > > > Jackson, MS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > We fired up the Bird, after not running it for about two > months, > > > > > > and we have no foot throttle acceleration. > > > > > > > > > > > > Our 88 FC has a Williams air control foot trottle. > > > > > > And a Bendix Cruise Controll. > > > > > > > > > > > > Both the foot throttle and the cruise control, share the > same > > > air > > > > > > throttle cylinder. > > > > > > This air cylinder with the attached cable to the injection > > > pump, > > > > > > works great, for the high / low idle, that is set by the > > > > Resume/Set > > > > > > switches on the Bendix Cruise. > > > > > > The foot brake also lowers the idle. > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears that the Cruise control is out of the circuit > > > > > > when turned "Off". The cruise worked great on our last > trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > So is there a check valve or air solenoid switch in the air > > > > > plumbing > > > > > > between the air supply and the foot throttle?? Where is it > > > > > located?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help or ideas are needed and welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was able to get some information from the drawings, that > > > Ralph > > > > > has > > > > > > in the files. > > > > > > But these seem to be for a 6V or 8V and may be different > than > > > our > > > > > FC. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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