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04-27-2005, 15:51
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Boy that's good information to pass on to everyone! This is one great subject to
discuss and get information about. Thankyou Jon . Jon Lechich 1978 Wanderlodge Bremerton Washington Tim and Mary Ann SPREADBOROUGH One more on tires. It's important not only to read the DOT labels on tires, consider this: Tires produced are shipped to a warehouse where they sit for 6 months. Imagine outside temperatures exceeding 100+ degrees. Unless warehouse is air conditioned, tires will cook. From a personal experience, had a set of 6 tires that were stored before sale in the above described circumstances. Nevertheless, all 6 failed. Once the investigation determined why the failure occurred, I now always not only check the DOT but determine what type of storage the tires were subjected to. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: George Lowry To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tires Sorry - this got bounced earlier - Seems like Spamcop does not like the new forum for some reason as they are the only messages getting bounced. George Hi Jon, From the information I have received from tire reps is that the tires start to deteriorate from the time they are manufactured, much like our bodies. Even sitting on the shelf, they are "wearing out". Depending upon the manufacturer, tire life runs between 5 and 7 years. Generally, Michelin, Goodyear, Firestone, tend toward the lower recommendation while Toyo, and some other tend toward the higher number. Most recappers will not accept a carcass for recap that is over five years old. With RV's, tires seldom wear out the tread but rather they rot out. If you were a trucker putting 75 - 100,000 miles on a tire a year, you would probably have the tires recapped at least three times during their lifetime. Something else I learned: Back when we were traveling in our GM Converted Coach, we happened upon this charter outfit that ran GM coaches. Their service manager told me that the best tire they had found was a Bridgestone model (I forget the number). Next time we needed steer tires, I insisted on this model Bridgestone. A while later, I noticed a peculiar wear pattern and took it back to GCR tire. The manager checked it out thoroughly and did some research. He found out that particular model tire was designed for a MINIMUM of 60,000 miles per year. I was only averaging 15,000. I was not putting enough wear for the rubber in that tire, He replaced them with another tire which was designed more for my usage. Prior to this, I never knew that you could put too few miles on a tire. One of the biggest factors is tire pressure. The ONLY way you can have the correct pressure is to weigh the coach, at least axle by axle and better by each wheel, and then consult the inflation charts and use the pressure recommended by the tire manufacturer. Something else that I learned from both the Michelin and Bridgestone Factory reps is that it is just as bad to have a tire over inflated as it is to have one that is under inflated. Weigh the coach, find the correct pressures and check them often. What I have heard of some folks doing is trading their tires in at approximately the 3 years point. The tire still has enough life left in it so the dealer can sell it to a trucker or a farmer for trailer use. Meanwhile the RVer has new rubber essentially all the time. When we were on the way to Redmond last summer we had a '98 tag axle tire blow. It was a Michelin and all the others were the same manufacture date. Dealing with Les Schwab in OR, they took the rest of the Michelins in trade and installed eight Toyos, all balanced with Equal. The way we looked at it, when that tire blew, it caused some damage. Most I was able to repair except for the cosmetic damage to the paint, etc. I estimate that to have that damage repaired in a regular shop would have cost $500 - 1,000. If the tire had been in another place, it well may have caused $2500 or more in damage. Since the new tires only cost around $2700 installed, we figured that it was money well spent. Safety was well worth it. BTW, we had planned to replace the tires anyway, the blowout just hastened it. I am sort of a devout coward. Two of the most important components on any vehicle, IMHO, are the tires and the brakes. Steering is right up there with them, but does not have the wear factor that tires and brakes have. I figure the price of maintaining these items is worth the lives of my wife and myself. George Lowry '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale) Spearfish, SD Jon wrote: > > What goes wrong with these tires after say 7 or 8 years? My back four tires look like brand new from the outside, no cracking or UV damage? Does the rubber just brake down after so long? and who promotes that you should change tires? I know most of the rigs on this site might run about say 3,000 miles or more a year and over a long period might just go 20,000 to 25,000 in say seven years. I was told most of these tires are good for 150,000 miles with good maintance. Any answers. Or maybe I will just contact one of the big tire manufactures and find out the reason for my question. Thank and have a great day!!!! > > Jon Lechich > 1978 Wanderlodge > Rebel bird > Bremerton Washington > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. 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05-04-2005, 06:21
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A lot has been said of not storing the coach on cement because it
leaches the good stuff out of the tire rubber. Does this also apply to asphalt, gravel or just plain dirt? Jack Smith 1973FC31 SoCal |
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05-04-2005, 06:40
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack & Donna Smith"
> A lot has been said of not storing the coach on cement because it > leaches the good stuff out of the tire rubber. Does this also apply > to asphalt, gravel or just plain dirt? > Jack Smith > 1973FC31 > SoCal How about sealed concrete or sealed and painted?? Bob 93pt.il. |
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05-04-2005, 06:40
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack & Donna Smith"
> A lot has been said of not storing the coach on cement because it > leaches the good stuff out of the tire rubber. Does this also apply > to asphalt, gravel or just plain dirt? > Jack Smith > 1973FC31 > SoCal How about sealed concrete or sealed and painted?? Bob 93pt.il. |
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05-04-2005, 06:51
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Yesterday I called Michelin and asked the same question.
Painted/Epoxy sealed concrete is definitely better than non-sealed concrete, but the rep insisted that the best is a piece of plywood - something about the plywood letting the bottom of the tire breath, however small the airflow. David Brady '02 LXi, Smokey Virginia Bob & Carol Howald` wrote: > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack & Donna Smith" > > > A lot has been said of not storing the coach on cement because it > > leaches the good stuff out of the tire rubber. Does this also apply > > to asphalt, gravel or just plain dirt? > > Jack Smith > > 1973FC31 > > SoCal > > How about sealed concrete or sealed and painted?? Bob 93pt.il. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.3 - Release Date: 5/3/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.3 - Release Date: 5/3/2005 |
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05-04-2005, 08:28
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Concrete is extremely caustic. Anything that keeps the tires from
being in direct constant contact with the caustic surface should suffice. If the concrete is sealed and painted, I would think it would not be a problem. I know many that store on bare concrete and never worry. Lets face it, there are many factors that cause tires to age including just sitting on a shelf. If you want to get the best life out of your tires, get out and drive them 15 - 20, 000 miles per year. George Lowry '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)] Spearfish, SD Bob & Carol Howald` wrote: > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack & Donna Smith" > > >>A lot has been said of not storing the coach on cement because it >>leaches the good stuff out of the tire rubber. Does this also apply >>to asphalt, gravel or just plain dirt? >>Jack Smith >>1973FC31 >>SoCal > > > How about sealed concrete or sealed and painted?? Bob 93pt.il. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > |
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05-27-2005, 01:03
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Ken I think Randy Dupree is also looking for tires and may have some info
you can use. He's at Maxton NC for the weekend but should be back for Monday. Rob Robinson 1994 WLWB Victoria, BC -----Original Message----- From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ken peckham Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 9:11 AM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] tires time for tires - ouch - we have michelin XZE - 12R22.5 tires - any recc. on where to find the best deal on these tires? kenpeckham cordele ga - 89fc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-27-2005, 01:49
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When I bought mine a year ago they had to be ordered in and I insisted that
they all had to be no older than two months. I wouldn't give them any money until I saw the date codes. I got my wish. They will do what it takes to get your business (several thousands of dollars) or you go somewhere else. Rob Robinson 1994 WLWB Victoria, BC -----Original Message----- From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of pattypape Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:41 AM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires What is a reasonable date code, one would expect to see, when looking for new tires?? Bill 88 FC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ken peckham" wrote: > time for tires - ouch - we have michelin XZE - 12R22.5 tires - any > recc. on where to find the best deal on these tires? kenpeckham > cordele ga - 89fc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-27-2005, 02:11
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time for tires - ouch - we have michelin XZE - 12R22.5 tires - any
recc. on where to find the best deal on these tires? kenpeckham cordele ga - 89fc |
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05-27-2005, 03:41
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What is a reasonable date code, one would expect to see,
when looking for new tires?? Bill 88 FC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ken peckham" wrote: > time for tires - ouch - we have michelin XZE - 12R22.5 tires - any > recc. on where to find the best deal on these tires? kenpeckham > cordele ga - 89fc |
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