Dish distant networks, was Space Ship TV Antenna
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12-04-2006, 05:03
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Very interesting, Don, thanks for sharing
Ernie Ekberg-83PT40- Amarillo, Tx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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12-04-2006, 08:30
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Some general notes about Dish and DNS (long):
Federal law DOES allow RV owners to get distant networks. There are tons of nuances involved, including whether you can get locals and DNS as well (you can only if you had both prior to October 1, 2004). Dish was sued 8 years ago for violating the law in the way they qualified home (not RV) users. They lost at every turn. The law has two remedies, the first being money, but with a finding of a "Pattern and practice" of violations, the law requires that DNS be taken away from the provider. Last May the federal appeals court in Atlanta made that finding, and after an unsuccessful appeal to the Supreme Court, a full shutdown was ordered for December 1. RVers not exempt. A company (American Direct/NPS) that is in the business of providing DNS to C-Band customers has leased space on the 119 satellite and is beaming Atlanta and San Francisco stations to Dish customers. Separate signup and payment is required to them. If your address does not qualify, you need the RV document and they are currently saying 35 days to process. URL is http://www.mydistantnetworks.com Early adopters say the picture quality is poor. The networks have filed a motion to have Echostar and NPS cited for contempt, and NPS shutdown. The judge this morning referred everything to a Magistrate Judge for "report and recommendation." He also denied a request from NPS to have non-Florida lawyers. The case is in Florida. There is NO Federal law for the size of spot beams. Echostar has several cities, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, and Denver, where the network beam is US-wide. If you have an address in one of those areas you will get the "local" networks nationwide. If you are in the area you will also get other "locals" which are spot-beamed only. The size of the rest of the beams varies. Senate Bill 4067 by Senator Leahy does not currently have an RV provision. That will hopefully be added. It provides that a carrier that loses their legal right under current law can get it back with a $20 million deposit with the copyright office, much higher fines for errors ($100 per customer per month, vs $5 under the main law). It also reduces the number of network stations that can be sent to 1 instead of 2, and removes all local+DNS regardless of grandfathering. Finally, DirecTV was not sued and is not affected, presumably because they were more careful in qualifying home users. Don Bradner Wanderlodge wannabe and long-time lurker here http://www.datastormusers.com |
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12-04-2006, 10:59
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Dish distant networks, was Space Ship TV Antenna
Don:
Thanks much. I knew someone out there had the answer. It also explains why my friend from Chicago still has his Chicago stations. We woods dwellers should be charged less for the discrimination and headache. LOL Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Bradner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:30 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Dish distant networks, was Space Ship TV Antenna Some general notes about Dish and DNS (long): Federal law DOES allow RV owners to get distant networks. There are tons of nuances involved, including whether you can get locals and DNS as well (you can only if you had both prior to October 1, 2004). Dish was sued 8 years ago for violating the law in the way they qualified home (not RV) users. They lost at every turn. The law has two remedies, the first being money, but with a finding of a "Pattern and practice" of violations, the law requires that DNS be taken away from the provider. Last May the federal appeals court in Atlanta made that finding, and after an unsuccessful appeal to the Supreme Court, a full shutdown was ordered for December 1. RVers not exempt. A company (American Direct/NPS) that is in the business of providing DNS to C-Band customers has leased space on the 119 satellite and is beaming Atlanta and San Francisco stations to Dish customers. Separate signup and payment is required to them. If your address does not qualify, you need the RV document and they are currently saying 35 days to process. URL is http://www.mydistantnetworks.com Early adopters say the picture quality is poor. The networks have filed a motion to have Echostar and NPS cited for contempt, and NPS shutdown. The judge this morning referred everything to a Magistrate Judge for "report and recommendation." He also denied a request from NPS to have non-Florida lawyers. The case is in Florida. There is NO Federal law for the size of spot beams. Echostar has several cities, including New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, and Denver, where the network beam is US-wide. If you have an address in one of those areas you will get the "local" networks nationwide. If you are in the area you will also get other "locals" which are spot-beamed only. The size of the rest of the beams varies. Senate Bill 4067 by Senator Leahy does not currently have an RV provision. That will hopefully be added. It provides that a carrier that loses their legal right under current law can get it back with a $20 million deposit with the copyright office, much higher fines for errors ($100 per customer per month, vs $5 under the main law). It also reduces the number of network stations that can be sent to 1 instead of 2, and removes all local+DNS regardless of grandfathering. Finally, DirecTV was not sued and is not affected, presumably because they were more careful in qualifying home users. Don Bradner Wanderlodge wannabe and long-time lurker here http://www.datastormusers.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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