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11-08-2006, 15:06
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Hey Larry, I am not sure about the gremlins in the digitel, mine does
not work and really I think it is prolly a Pita, some voice telling you to do stuff, repeatedly..sounds too much like my ex.hehehe... Any way on the water I am not sure but on my 86FC when filling the fresh tank it will overflow for quite a while..starting and stopping etc..I think it is water sloshing around and going into the over flow..it will eventually stop overflowing...I would also check the sporlan as Ernie suggested, not very hard to do and would be good for you to familiarise your self with the water system. Glad you are enjoying it..great find. Scott B 86FC35 4SALE SC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw" wrote: > > Larry, > Ok, I see now. I have a similar problem in that my Gen battery is > not really totally isolated and therefor discharges when not > disconnected from the system. My normal storage plan is to > disconnect all the batteries. I don't think I could survive an > overnight without the generator, but I haven't tried yet. > I know some folks have added seperate batteries for chassis power > to maintain starting energy when boondocking, not a bad idea, but > takes space and costs for the extra batteries and charging > requirememts. > > Gardner > 78FC33 7 batteries and loving it. > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry > wrote: > > > > Hi Gardner, > > Thanks for the post... The first night that I had the BB out, I > stayed at Wally World, all night...When I went to start the Cat, the > batts were weak and would not start, I then tried the Genny and that > batt was weak and would not start the Gen... I then hit the aux > switch and the Gen started... I think there was enough in the start > batts to get the gen started, lucky me, or I would have to call my > newly acquired towing insurance... > > The water level is and was full... What I did not know was that > the aux switch tied the gen batt into the mix... I was thinking the > four 6 volts were the house batts and there was another batt for the > starter... I guess I will change out all the batteries... > > Thanks > > Sea Ya > > Larry > > Croton Point Park, NY > > 84 35 FCSB > > > > Gardner Yeaw > Larry, > > The aux battery switch places the generator battery in paralell > > with the 4 start/chassis batteries. So you should find a 12 volt > > battery in the generator compartment that is saving your a$%. > > > > You need to check the water level in the batteries and probably > > take them to a garage to check their age and output. A check of > the > > charging system would be a good idea as well. > > > > I just re-wired my aux switch which wasn't working. Lucky for me > > my start batteries were OK. > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > Well, I have been trying to get to know the BB a little more > than > > I have seen so far... I have to ask all of the group for some > HELP... > > > > > > 1. I have found 4- 6 volt batteries, I am of the understanding > > that there may be more, but where are they??? The reason being is > > when I go to start the Cat, the batt goes dead, until I use the > aux > > batt switch, then starts right up... This all while being plugged > > into 30 amp electric... The coach has two Iota DLS 45 chargers > with > > IQ smart chargers... they were install 06/04/04 > > > > > > 2. After filling the propane tank, the alarm under the frig > > started going off, Why??? > > > It was on all along with green light on... > > > > > > 3. Every time I open the closet next to the frig, the digitell > > goes off and starts with announcing the time, which is > incorrect, > > also the radio stops working for a few seconds, then comes on > again > > when I close the the closet door... What is this??? > > > > > > 4. I think I have figured out the next problem, it is the water > > fill, it worked fine the first fill up of water, then the second > > time I tried to fill up I flipped the tank fill switch it filled > up > > and then overflowed, I shut the switch off and the water kept > > overflowing from the over flow, I assumed this has to do with the > > sporlan valve, is this true??? > > > > > > Enough for now, I am sure I have to pose more to you until I > get > > all this down pat... > > > Sea Ya > > > Larry > > > Croton Point, NY > > > 84 35 FCSB > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Sponsored Link > > > > > > Talk more and pay less. Vonage can save you up to $300 a year > on > > your phone bill. Sign up now. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Sponsored Link > > > > Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, > Associate - Click now to apply > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |
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11-08-2006, 15:29
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Larry, when you open the propane valve it is best to open it all the
way to the end. Low amp starts are bad for the brushes and bushing in the Cat starter. Sporlan is a name I give to a person who works good only once in a while. SporlanO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- I have found 4- 6 volt batteries, I am of the > understanding > > > that there may be more, but where are they??? The reason being > is > > > when I go to start the Cat, the batt goes dead, until I use the > > aux > > > batt switch, then starts right up... This all while being > plugged > > > into 30 amp electric... The coach has two Iota DLS 45 chargers > > with > > > IQ smart chargers... they were install 06/04/04 > > > > > > > > 2. After filling the propane tank, the alarm under the frig > > > started going off, Why??? > > > > It was on all along with green light on... > > > > > > > > 3. Every time I open the closet next to the frig, the digitell > > > goes off and starts with announcing the time, which is > > incorrect, > > > also the radio stops working for a few seconds, then comes on > > again > > > when I close the the closet door... What is this??? > > > > > > > > 4. I think I have figured out the next problem, it is the > water > > > fill, it worked fine the first fill up of water, then the second > > > time I tried to fill up I flipped the tank fill switch it filled > > up > > > and then overflowed, I shut the switch off and the water kept > > > overflowing from the over flow, I assumed this has to do with > the > > > sporlan valve, is this true??? > > > > > > > > Enough for now, I am sure I have to pose more to you until I > > get > > > all this down pat... > > > > Sea Ya > > > > Larry > > > > Croton Point, NY > > > > 84 35 FCSB > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Sponsored Link > > > > > > > > Talk more and pay less. Vonage can save you up to $300 a year > > on > > > your phone bill. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Sponsored Link > > > > > > Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, > > Associate - Click now to apply > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > |
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11-08-2006, 15:29
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Better get that digital volt meter out and start looking at things.
MH ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Things I need to find out... Hi Gardner, Thanks for the post... The first night that I had the BB out, I stayed at Wally World, all night...When I went to start the Cat, the batts were weak and would not start, I then tried the Genny and that batt was weak and would not start the Gen... I then hit the aux switch and the Gen started... I think there was enough in the start batts to get the gen started, lucky me, or I would have to call my newly acquired towing insurance... The water level is and was full... What I did not know was that the aux switch tied the gen batt into the mix... I was thinking the four 6 volts were the house batts and there was another batt for the starter... I guess I will change out all the batteries... Thanks Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35 FCSB Gardner Yeaw The aux battery switch places the generator battery in paralell with the 4 start/chassis batteries. So you should find a 12 volt battery in the generator compartment that is saving your a$%. You need to check the water level in the batteries and probably take them to a garage to check their age and output. A check of the charging system would be a good idea as well. I just re-wired my aux switch which wasn't working. Lucky for me my start batteries were OK. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry wrote: > > Hi All, > Well, I have been trying to get to know the BB a little more than I have seen so far... I have to ask all of the group for some HELP... > > 1. I have found 4- 6 volt batteries, I am of the understanding that there may be more, but where are they??? The reason being is when I go to start the Cat, the batt goes dead, until I use the aux batt switch, then starts right up... This all while being plugged into 30 amp electric... The coach has two Iota DLS 45 chargers with IQ smart chargers... they were install 06/04/04 > > 2. After filling the propane tank, the alarm under the frig started going off, Why??? > It was on all along with green light on... > > 3. Every time I open the closet next to the frig, the digitell goes off and starts with announcing the time, which is incorrect, also the radio stops working for a few seconds, then comes on again when I close the the closet door... What is this??? > > 4. I think I have figured out the next problem, it is the water fill, it worked fine the first fill up of water, then the second time I tried to fill up I flipped the tank fill switch it filled up and then overflowed, I shut the switch off and the water kept overflowing from the over flow, I assumed this has to do with the sporlan valve, is this true??? > > Enough for now, I am sure I have to pose more to you until I get all this down pat... > Sea Ya > Larry > Croton Point, NY > 84 35 FCSB > > > --------------------------------- > Sponsored Link > > Talk more and pay less. Vonage can save you up to $300 a year on your phone bill. Sign up now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate - Click now to apply [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-08-2006, 16:00
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Things I need to find out...
One drawback to my Bird, like yours, is that it does not have a separate
dedicated starting battery. If your house usage draws down the 4 6 volters, you have to either start the generator to recharge them or hit the aux swtich and get the generator battery to start it. I suppose in one sense, a person could consider the generator battery, the reserve starting battery. I bought my replacement 6 volt batteries at Sam's Club. I think they were around $48 each. Stayed at Croton Point this summer. Loved the location. Bathrooms were not kept that clean. Kerry 82 FC 35 Denver --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry > > Hi Gardner, > Thanks for the post... The first night that I had the BB out, I stayed at Wally World, all night...When I went to start the Cat, the batts were weak and would not start, I then tried the Genny and that batt was weak and would not start the Gen... I then hit the aux switch and the Gen started... I think there was enough in the start batts to get the gen started, lucky me, or I would have to call my newly acquired towing insurance... > The water level is and was full... What I did not know was that the aux switch tied the gen batt into the mix... I was thinking the four 6 volts were the house batts and there was another batt for the starter... I guess I will change out all the batteries... > Thanks > Sea Ya > Larry > Croton Point Park, NY > 84 35 FCSB > |
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11-08-2006, 16:12
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Hi Scott,
Thanks for the post... I think I will taken the sporlan valve apart and clean it out... Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35FCSB Scott am not sure about the gremlins in the digitel, mine does not work and really I think it is prolly a Pita, some voice telling you to do stuff, repeatedly..sounds too much like my ex.hehehe... Any way on the water I am not sure but on my 86FC when filling the fresh tank it will overflow for quite a while..starting and stopping etc..I think it is water sloshing around and going into the over flow..it will eventually stop overflowing...I would also check the sporlan as Ernie suggested, not very hard to do and would be good for you to familiarise your self with the water system. Glad you are enjoying it..great find. Scott B 86FC35 4SALE SC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw" wrote: > > Larry, > Ok, I see now. I have a similar problem in that my Gen battery is > not really totally isolated and therefor discharges when not > disconnected from the system. My normal storage plan is to > disconnect all the batteries. I don't think I could survive an > overnight without the generator, but I haven't tried yet. > I know some folks have added seperate batteries for chassis power > to maintain starting energy when boondocking, not a bad idea, but > takes space and costs for the extra batteries and charging > requirememts. > > Gardner > 78FC33 7 batteries and loving it. > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry > wrote: > > > > Hi Gardner, > > Thanks for the post... The first night that I had the BB out, I > stayed at Wally World, all night...When I went to start the Cat, the > batts were weak and would not start, I then tried the Genny and that > batt was weak and would not start the Gen... I then hit the aux > switch and the Gen started... I think there was enough in the start > batts to get the gen started, lucky me, or I would have to call my > newly acquired towing insurance... > > The water level is and was full... What I did not know was that > the aux switch tied the gen batt into the mix... I was thinking the > four 6 volts were the house batts and there was another batt for the > starter... I guess I will change out all the batteries... > > Thanks > > Sea Ya > > Larry > > Croton Point Park, NY > > 84 35 FCSB > > > > Gardner Yeaw > Larry, > > The aux battery switch places the generator battery in paralell > > with the 4 start/chassis batteries. So you should find a 12 volt > > battery in the generator compartment that is saving your a$%. > > > > You need to check the water level in the batteries and probably > > take them to a garage to check their age and output. A check of > the > > charging system would be a good idea as well. > > > > I just re-wired my aux switch which wasn't working. Lucky for me > > my start batteries were OK. > > > > Gardner > > 78FC33 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > Well, I have been trying to get to know the BB a little more > than > > I have seen so far... I have to ask all of the group for some > HELP... > > > > > > 1. I have found 4- 6 volt batteries, I am of the understanding > > that there may be more, but where are they??? The reason being is > > when I go to start the Cat, the batt goes dead, until I use the > aux > > batt switch, then starts right up... This all while being plugged > > into 30 amp electric... The coach has two Iota DLS 45 chargers > with > > IQ smart chargers... they were install 06/04/04 > > > > > > 2. After filling the propane tank, the alarm under the frig > > started going off, Why??? > > > It was on all along with green light on... > > > > > > 3. Every time I open the closet next to the frig, the digitell > > goes off and starts with announcing the time, which is > incorrect, > > also the radio stops working for a few seconds, then comes on > again > > when I close the the closet door... What is this??? > > > > > > 4. I think I have figured out the next problem, it is the water > > fill, it worked fine the first fill up of water, then the second > > time I tried to fill up I flipped the tank fill switch it filled > up > > and then overflowed, I shut the switch off and the water kept > > overflowing from the over flow, I assumed this has to do with the > > sporlan valve, is this true??? > > > > > > Enough for now, I am sure I have to pose more to you until I > get > > all this down pat... > > > Sea Ya > > > Larry > > > Croton Point, NY > > > 84 35 FCSB > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Sponsored Link > > > > > > Talk more and pay less. Vonage can save you up to $300 a year > on > > your phone bill. 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11-08-2006, 16:27
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Hi Sporlan,
Thanks for the laugh and post... That's a good tip to remember about the starter... Luckily, the coach came with an extra starter, alternator, water pump and other parts, along with a plethora of filters for racor, oil, fuel and air... Again thanks Greg... Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35FCSB Gregory OConnor Larry, when you open the propane valve it is best to open it all the way to the end. Low amp starts are bad for the brushes and bushing in the Cat starter. Sporlan is a name I give to a person who works good only once in a while. SporlanO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- I have found 4- 6 volt batteries, I am of the > understanding > > > that there may be more, but where are they??? The reason being > is > > > when I go to start the Cat, the batt goes dead, until I use the > > aux > > > batt switch, then starts right up... This all while being > plugged > > > into 30 amp electric... The coach has two Iota DLS 45 chargers > > with > > > IQ smart chargers... they were install 06/04/04 > > > > > > > > 2. After filling the propane tank, the alarm under the frig > > > started going off, Why??? > > > > It was on all along with green light on... > > > > > > > > 3. Every time I open the closet next to the frig, the digitell > > > goes off and starts with announcing the time, which is > > incorrect, > > > also the radio stops working for a few seconds, then comes on > > again > > > when I close the the closet door... What is this??? > > > > > > > > 4. I think I have figured out the next problem, it is the > water > > > fill, it worked fine the first fill up of water, then the second > > > time I tried to fill up I flipped the tank fill switch it filled > > up > > > and then overflowed, I shut the switch off and the water kept > > > overflowing from the over flow, I assumed this has to do with > the > > > sporlan valve, is this true??? > > > > > > > > Enough for now, I am sure I have to pose more to you until I > > get > > > all this down pat... > > > > Sea Ya > > > > Larry > > > > Croton Point, NY > > > > 84 35 FCSB > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Sponsored Link > > > > > > > > Talk more and pay less. Vonage can save you up to $300 a year > > on > > > your phone bill. Sign up now. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Sponsored Link > > > > > > Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, > > Associate - Click now to apply > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-08-2006, 16:42
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Kerry,
I am thinking of going to the Trojan T145 batteries to replace the ones that I need to replace... They are only 5/8" higher than the T105's that are there now... I think I will have enough clearance... They are a lot more amp hours... Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35FCSB davidkerryedwards One drawback to my Bird, like yours, is that it does not have a separate dedicated starting battery. If your house usage draws down the 4 6 volters, you have to either start the generator to recharge them or hit the aux swtich and get the generator battery to start it. I suppose in one sense, a person could consider the generator battery, the reserve starting battery. I bought my replacement 6 volt batteries at Sam's Club. I think they were around $48 each. Stayed at Croton Point this summer. Loved the location. Bathrooms were not kept that clean. Kerry 82 FC 35 Denver --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry > > Hi Gardner, > Thanks for the post... The first night that I had the BB out, I stayed at Wally World, all night...When I went to start the Cat, the batts were weak and would not start, I then tried the Genny and that batt was weak and would not start the Gen... I then hit the aux switch and the Gen started... I think there was enough in the start batts to get the gen started, lucky me, or I would have to call my newly acquired towing insurance... > The water level is and was full... What I did not know was that the aux switch tied the gen batt into the mix... I was thinking the four 6 volts were the house batts and there was another batt for the starter... I guess I will change out all the batteries... > Thanks > Sea Ya > Larry > Croton Point Park, NY > 84 35 FCSB > --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-09-2006, 01:50
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Mike,
I think you are right about the VM... Thanks Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35FCSB Mike Hohnstein <MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote: Better get that digital volt meter out and start looking at things. MH ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Things I need to find out... Hi Gardner, Thanks for the post... The first night that I had the BB out, I stayed at Wally World, all night...When I went to start the Cat, the batts were weak and would not start, I then tried the Genny and that batt was weak and would not start the Gen... I then hit the aux switch and the Gen started... I think there was enough in the start batts to get the gen started, lucky me, or I would have to call my newly acquired towing insurance... The water level is and was full... What I did not know was that the aux switch tied the gen batt into the mix... I was thinking the four 6 volts were the house batts and there was another batt for the starter... I guess I will change out all the batteries... Thanks Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35 FCSB Gardner Yeaw The aux battery switch places the generator battery in paralell with the 4 start/chassis batteries. So you should find a 12 volt battery in the generator compartment that is saving your a$%. You need to check the water level in the batteries and probably take them to a garage to check their age and output. A check of the charging system would be a good idea as well. I just re-wired my aux switch which wasn't working. Lucky for me my start batteries were OK. Gardner 78FC33 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry wrote: > > Hi All, > Well, I have been trying to get to know the BB a little more than I have seen so far... I have to ask all of the group for some HELP... > > 1. I have found 4- 6 volt batteries, I am of the understanding that there may be more, but where are they??? The reason being is when I go to start the Cat, the batt goes dead, until I use the aux batt switch, then starts right up... This all while being plugged into 30 amp electric... The coach has two Iota DLS 45 chargers with IQ smart chargers... they were install 06/04/04 > > 2. After filling the propane tank, the alarm under the frig started going off, Why??? > It was on all along with green light on... > > 3. Every time I open the closet next to the frig, the digitell goes off and starts with announcing the time, which is incorrect, also the radio stops working for a few seconds, then comes on again when I close the the closet door... What is this??? > > 4. I think I have figured out the next problem, it is the water fill, it worked fine the first fill up of water, then the second time I tried to fill up I flipped the tank fill switch it filled up and then overflowed, I shut the switch off and the water kept overflowing from the over flow, I assumed this has to do with the sporlan valve, is this true??? > > Enough for now, I am sure I have to pose more to you until I get all this down pat... > Sea Ya > Larry > Croton Point, NY > 84 35 FCSB > > > --------------------------------- > Sponsored Link > > Talk more and pay less. Vonage can save you up to $300 a year on your phone bill. Sign up now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate - Click now to apply [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-09-2006, 02:08
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Don,
Thanks for the post... I checked and they are 10 #'s more than the 105's I do not think an extra 40 #'s will make that much difference, I could always afford to drop the 40 #;s off of myself... I have the T105's in there now... Which need to be replaced... That will happen on Saturday... Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35FCSB dspithaler@... wrote: Larry You might want to check the weight on those 145's. I'm using them & I think they are about 75 # apiece. Four is a lot of weight to carry. I have used the 105's before in my 79 FC & had good luck with them too. I think when I have to replace them in my 89 SP I will get the 105's again for the weight factor. Just something to think about . Don 89 SP 36' Butler, PA Kerry, I am thinking of going to the Trojan T145 batteries to replace the ones that I need to replace... They are only 5/8" higher than the T105's that are there now... I think I will have enough clearance... They are a lot more amp hours... Sea Ya Larry Croton Point Park, NY 84 35FCSB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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11-09-2006, 04:08
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Ernie:
Those batteries were installed in 1999. R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote: > > In a message dated 11/8/2006 7:22:30 PM Central Standard Time, > sailor7cs_365@... writes: > > > > . I have found 4- 6 volt batteries, I am of the understanding that there > > may be more, but where are they??? The reason being is when I go to start the > > Cat, the batt goes dead, until I use the aux batt switch, then starts right > > up... This all while being plugged into 30 amp electric... The coach has two > > Iota DLS 45 chargers with IQ smart chargers... they were install 06/04/0 > > > > wonder how old these batteries are? > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83 PT40 > Livingston, Montana > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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