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06-06-2008, 01:27

Whoever needed their altimeter repaired should contact Hisham for more info. BB left mine out.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Royale
Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA

Hisham Amaral wrote:

Leroy

We all need our altimeters check on our planes, however our BB are just as important as the planes we fly. The typical cost to repair an altimeter is about $50-$75 at our local instrument shop in Pontiac Michigan airport.

Good luck in getting your
instrument repaired, and don't forget to get your pitot static and Transponderdone to be totally legal.

Hisham Amaral

W. Bloomfield, MI

97WB

Richard Gideon com> wrote:

Leroy: And needless to say, a 'type' rating is required for our BBs
since we all exceed the 12,500# FAR mandate. Guess I've been quite
lucky...never been ramp checked. -

Dick Gideon
Freedom Bird
1989 35FC

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert
...> wrote:
>
> Yes sir. All of that is correct with some added info. The vertical
separation is different and you must be instrument rated with
supplemental oxygen above 18,000'. lol Unless
things have changed.
Birds are not pressurized.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> Richard Gideon .> wrote:
Bob and all: The url below explains the altimeter and Kollsman window
> adjustment for reading elevation above sea level. May come in
handy
> when baking in the BB at higher altitudes.
>
> http://flighttraining.aopa.org/ft_magazine/special/0903_weather.cfm
>
> PS Please remember to set your altimeter to 29.92 when cruising
above
> 18,000 feet...that the law!!! -
>
> Dick Gideon
> Freedom Bird
> 1989 35FC
> Rolla, MO
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Bob Lawrence"

> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave and Pete.
> > Local bar. pressure is 29.9...doesn't help.
> > Dave, my GPS is a Cobra..it doesn't have an altitude. Wish it
did.
> > Went to the local airport today (small here in Branson). Asked a
> > local charter carrier where they got theirs done. Said they send
it
> > to Kansas City. They asked what aircraft it was in and I told
them
> a
> > Bluebird. They asked "Was that a Ultralight and how many
engines?"
> > Told them one engine and it used diesel. You should have seen
the
> > look on their faces..LOL..LOL it was GREAT!!
> > I will keep looking.
> > Bob Lawrence
> > 84 PT36
> > Branson, Mo. with nonworking altimeter....
> > >
> > > cross check the altitude with your GPS, set the altimeter to
> > match,

> > > then see how it goes. As indicated, barometric pressure can
> cause
> > > considerable variation. Indeed, since my coach just has a big
> > empty
> > > spot marked "altimeter" I just look at the GPS when I'm
curious
> > about
> > > the altitude. It's usually pretty accurate.
> > >
> > > I note that when flying out of small airfields (that didn't
have
> > > accurate barometric reports) that we'd set the altimeter to
the
> > local
> > > posted field altitude.
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > El Sobrante CA
> > > aeonix1@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Dave Erickson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bob,
> > > >
>
> > > Don't forget to check the altimeter setting. Should be
local
> > > > barometric
> > > > pressure if I remember right.
> > > >
> > > > Can also set the altimeter to show a known altitude and
cross
> > check
> > > > to local
> > > > barometer.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bob:
> > > >
> > > > I had one done at an instrument shop at Boeing Field for
$70.00.
> > > > They cleaned it and check it's calibration. They didn't
> certify
> > it
> > > > for flying by I don't expect my Bird to get too far off the
> > ground.
> > > > They said it was within 10 to 15 feet at all altitudes up to
> > 12,000.
> > > >
>
> > > You might want to talk to a local instrument shop.
> > > >
> > > > Marv
> > > > 2004 M380
> > > > Ocean Shores, WA
> > > >
> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Bob Lawrence"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi group,
> > > >>
> > > >> Pulled out the altimeter as not very accurate. Would have
> hated
> > to
> > > > have
> > > >> flown with this unit as it's 800 feet low.
> > > >>
> > > >> I know I could send it to an FAA licensed repair for bigger
> > bucks,
> > > > but
> > > >> was wondering if anybody has sent theirs somewhere that was
> > >
> reasonable.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bob Lawrence
> > > >> 84 PT36
> > > >> Workcamping in Branson, Mo.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

06-06-2008, 01:31

I think Steve is about right. I spent a month in Telluride two years ago, three weeks with a headache. Beautiful place. Telluride has a corner on top quality VW Micro buses one with a teardrop falling out of a peace sign. It is worth the trip to go back in time. Things move pretty slowly in Telluride. I would like to try it in the bus one day but there are few places to park it up there.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Royale
Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA

Steve Pfiffner wrote:

Your body will acclimatize in about three
weeks by producing more
red blood cells to compensate. Breathing oxygen helps with the nausea
buts slows the transition.

Steve
Wannabee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Masterson" <"aeonix1%40mac.com">
To: <"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com">
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Altimeter repair

>I took my 'bird across Colorado (west to east) on I-70. There's quite
> a stretch around Vail that's all above 10,000 ft.
>
> Several years ago, we drove over the summit (above the Eisenhower
> tunnel) in a car -- I recall feeling somewhat ill ('til we got a bit
> lower). I vaguely recall that went near or above 12,000 ft.
>
> Wife's been to the top of Pike's Peak -- I think I'd need to spend a
>
couple months above 8000 ft to acclimate before I'd try it these days.
>
> (Living at 200 ft above sea level doesn't much prepare you for the
> mountains...)
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> "aeonix1%40mac.com"
> On the road at RIverside, CA

06-06-2008, 06:11

Pete how did you get a C-152 to 12000.? It must have taken a long time.

I fly a T310R

Walker

cramalot-inn

84fc35

kcmo

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06-06-2008, 10:54

He had some help, I'll tell you that.

BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: dwalks@...
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:11:12 -0400
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Altimeter repair

Pete how did you get a C-152 to 12000.? It must have taken a long time.

I fly a T310R

Walker

cramalot-inn

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06-06-2008, 16:11

C-152 has a maximum altitude of 14,000 ft. more or less, but the
climb rate drops down to something like 200-250 feet per minute once
you get above 10K feet. (pretty slow.)

However, on the occasion that I went to 12,000, there was a very
strong southerly wind that interacted with the Tehachapi mountains,
forming a 'standing wave' effect. At one point, I was in a full climb
to maintain 6500 ft or so (VFR) but then I was later in a humongus
updraft that gave me a climb of 500-600 ft per minute. As soon as I
realized what was going on, I decided to take advantage of the ride
so I could gain speed in a controlled decent north of the mountains.

It was actually a nasty day for flying such a small plane. Heavy head
wind -- fly high, clear of the valley fog and ground speed was
practically zip. Fly low, where the wind wasn't so bad, and the
visibility was not-so-great (but still legal). In the end, I opted
for low and mostly followed I-5 home to Sacramento -- checking my
progress against the highway signs...

The flight was taking so long, I had to stop for fuel in Fresno
(FAT)... As I made my approach, the tower said "keep your speed up,
there's a commuter turbo prop behind you..." so I flew the approach
at near-cruising speed, killing the power and shortly after dropping
flaps over the end of the runway. I even made the first turn off.
(Thanks to that headwind...)

Eventually, we got home to Rio Linda (near Sacramento) where I was
based. By then, the winds dropped, the fog lifted and we landed in
near-cloudless night after a long day of flying. (This was the Sunday
after Thanksgiving...)

It was an interesting flight for a relatively low-time pilot.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road near Buttonwillow, CA (going home at last!)

On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:11 PM, dwalks@... wrote:

> Pete how did you get a C-152 to 12000.? It must have taken a long
> time.
> I fly a T310R
> Walker
> cramalot-inn
> 84fc35
> kcmo
>
>
>
>
> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler
> Florence" on AOL Food.
>