Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch
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08-23-2007, 15:47
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Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch
Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the captions.
Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000 lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen rigs come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches and receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an 8V92 or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as long as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper brakes, bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand Prix GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no problem stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would do it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes, stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves the Bird ", asks what my total combined length is? You're either on the bus or your not! Kurt Horvath Bumpersbird |
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08-25-2007, 01:10
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Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch
Kurt, the crank case vent system looks like a pro install. I wonder
if use of metalic tube would help keep the oil from building up and forming a line blockage that leads to crankcase + pressure and seal damage??????? The metalic tube would heat up ( transfer block heat) and pass oil to the new filter better. part of the reason the vent hose are not routed horizontally is because the oil will not drain via gravity after shut down. The 8v92 slobber tubes dont vent the crank case they handle a byproduct of the 2 cycle engine design that the S 60 does not produce. some 8v92 owners use "crap cans" that collect the slobber but allow pressure bypass. there is more crankcase pressure when the engine is cold or when the owner runs the fan to cool the engine lower than the engineered op temp in a false scense of operating kindness. The block and pistons are designed to size at a given temp. GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird" > > Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the captions. > Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what > the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000 > lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our > coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have > class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever > higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen rigs > come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches and > receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an > issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an 8V92 > or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as long > as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper brakes, > bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand Prix > GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the > same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no problem > stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would do > it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes, > stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only > problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves the > Bird ", asks what my total combined length is? > > You're either on the bus or your not! > > Kurt Horvath > Bumpersbird > |
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08-25-2007, 04:42
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Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch
Thanks for those kind words on my handy work.
I like the idea of using tubing of some sort. I don't know if it would be more functional, but it would look GREAT! A blockage is always possible, but the hose is mounted high and I think it has enough fall in it to prevent any pooling of oil. I also mounted the entire unit lower than the fresh air intake to make sure it would be hard for any fluids to get up there. The filter also a valve in it that regulates and can bypass any unwanted pressure or vacume that may occure. The existing rubber hose has a heavy wire in it and is quit rigid in the respect of not being collapsible. It will flex but in the photo of were the hose exits the filter and routes back into the fresh air intake pipe, that¢s about as much as it will flex. I think if we used metal it mite be a wash as to price. The hose kit for the Racor CCV6000 was about $130.00. I think that's a lot for what you get 8' of hose, 4 clamps and a few heavy plastic ties. But it was the easiest part of the install. If you were referring to the oil return to the case. BLUE HOSE there is no pressure in that line and it retunes the filtered oil back into the case via gravity. It also has a check valve in the line to prevent any back flow from the motor or the bulk oil fill. The filter is accessible buy releasing 4 latches then it drops down. A rigid connection here would not facilitate easy filter changes. Although at 750 hrs. Filter life it would not really matter. But it would look cool. I'm not as up to speed on the 8V92 as to how they are vented, but I do know that several companies make several different products that will stop or lessen the amount of oily residue the plagued my coach. One of the hose kits available had a T in it. I assume that is for a motor with 2 breathers (8V92)?? http://www.dieselboat.com has a lot of discussion on this topic. Some of those guys are running two and three 8V16's in an enclosed engine room. It's was not so much the oil covered back end, or my tow was covered in dirt that was precipitated by a covering of a fine oily mist. But the engine compartment was always untouchable before a gallon bath of Purple Power and a pressure hose. All of that stuff ends up on the ground, usually at home, UNACEPTABLE!!! Hey I'm no saint, but I don't like this crap on the ground ANYWHERE. Not to mention the fact that it's fire hazard. It works I have none of the above mention problems any more. ----- Original Message ---- From: Gregory OConnor To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:10:30 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch Kurt, the crank case vent system looks like a pro install. I wonder if use of metalic tube would help keep the oil from building up and forming a line blockage that leads to crankcase + pressure and seal damage?????? ? The metalic tube would heat up ( transfer block heat) and pass oil to the new filter better. part of the reason the vent hose are not routed horizontally is because the oil will not drain via gravity after shut down. The 8v92 slobber tubes dont vent the crank case they handle a byproduct of the 2 cycle engine design that the S 60 does not produce. some 8v92 owners use "crap cans" that collect the slobber but allow pressure bypass. there is more crankcase pressure when the engine is cold or when the owner runs the fan to cool the engine lower than the engineered op temp in a false scense of operating kindness. The block and pistons are designed to size at a given temp. GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bumpersbird" > > Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the captions. > Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what > the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000 > lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our > coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have > class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever > higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen rigs > come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches and > receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an > issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an 8V92 > or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as long > as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper brakes, > bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand Prix > GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the > same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no problem > stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would do > it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes, > stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only > problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves the > Bird ", asks what my total combined length is? > > You're either on the bus or your not! > > Kurt Horvath > Bumpersbird > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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08-25-2007, 06:16
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Photo Album17, Random Photos, Slobber Tube Fix Photos & 10,000 lbs. Hitch
Greg I understand what you mean by running the engine too cool by putting
the fan override switch on. But the fan comes on any time you use the dash air anyways and that's a lot of the time for this northerner when he's down south. On 25/08/07, Gregory OConnor > > Kurt, the crank case vent system looks like a pro install. I wonder > if use of metalic tube would help keep the oil from building up and > forming a line blockage that leads to crankcase + pressure and seal > damage??????? > The metalic tube would heat up ( transfer block heat) and pass oil to > the new filter better. part of the reason the vent hose are not > routed horizontally is because the oil will not drain via gravity > after shut down. > The 8v92 slobber tubes dont vent the crank case they handle a > byproduct of the 2 cycle engine design that the S 60 does not > produce. some 8v92 owners use "crap cans" that collect the slobber > but allow pressure bypass. > > there is more crankcase pressure when the engine is cold or when the > owner runs the fan to cool the engine lower than the engineered op > temp in a false scense of operating kindness. The block and pistons > are designed to size at a given temp. > > GregoryO'Connor > 94ptRomolandCa > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > "bumpersbird" > > > > > Pics from Kurt. Read post #27039 it will explain some of the > captions. > > Comments on my favorite topic today. 10,000 lbs tow weight is what > > the hitch is rated at. If you have a hitch that is rated at 15,000 > > lbs then you could haul 15,000. I think that during the time our > > coaches were built 10,000 was the excepted standard. Today you have > > class 5 hitches at 15,000 lbs. and some specialty hitches are ever > > higher, like lintel rings etc. Hangings out at Prevost I've seen > rigs > > come in that are way over the top and they have standard hitches > and > > receivers. I'm not saying it's correct but it doesn't seem to be an > > issue. Anyway a bird with a 6v92 could handle it. If you had an > 8V92 > > or Series 60 you probably could haul any thing you wanted to as > long > > as the vehicle is designed for that purpose. You know proper > brakes, > > bars, GCVW etc. I regularly pull a 24' Car Trailer with a Grand > Prix > > GT in it with of course everything plus the kitchen sink. I get the > > same mileage with or without it Avg. MPG 5.5 The coach has no > problem > > stopping it without trailer brakes, I tried it to see if it would > do > > it in case of trailer brake failure. With the trailer brakes, > > stopping rate is equal to coach without trailer. MOL. The only > > problem that I have is if the guy in picture #6, "Everyone loves > the > > Bird ", asks what my total combined length is? > > > > You're either on the bus or your not! > > > > Kurt Horvath > > Bumpersbird > > > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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