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12-14-2007, 10:04
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Freeze Heaters
I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the kitchen
sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water heater compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of water, so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they are there for a little insurance on a very cold night. Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank (under curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? Scott Forman 86 PT38 Memphis |
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12-14-2007, 10:08
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Freeze Heaters
Much of the copper water lines are wrapped with an electric heat tape.
Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...> wrote: > > I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the kitchen > sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water heater > compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of water, > so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they are > there for a little insurance on a very cold night. > > Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank (under > curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? > > Scott Forman > 86 PT38 > Memphis > |
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12-14-2007, 10:16
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Then why are there radiant heaters in these spaces?
I have never noticed any heat tape in my coach...then again, I wasn't looking for it. Where is the thermostat for heat tape if I have it? Scott --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" wrote: > > > > Much of the copper water lines are wrapped with an electric heat tape. > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@> > wrote: > > > > I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the kitchen > > sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water heater > > compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of > water, > > so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they are > > there for a little insurance on a very cold night. > > > > Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank (under > > curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? > > > > Scott Forman > > 86 PT38 > > Memphis > > > |
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12-14-2007, 11:30
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Your coach has little electric heaters in those spaces? You have circuit
breakers in the main panel for freeze heaters? Just wondering, BB's are so different. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion Scott Forman <sforman@...> wrote: Then why are there radiant heaters in these spaces? I have never noticed any heat tape in my coach...then again, I wasn't looking for it. Where is the thermostat for heat tape if I have it? Scott --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" wrote: > > > > Much of the copper water lines are wrapped with an electric heat tape. > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@> > wrote: > > > > I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the kitchen > > sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water heater > > compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of > water, > > so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they are > > there for a little insurance on a very cold night. > > > > Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank (under > > curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? > > > > Scott Forman > > 86 PT38 > > Memphis > > > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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12-14-2007, 11:42
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My coach depends primarily on the AquaHot-heated basement to protect
against freezing. However, while replacing the floor, I discovered a small length of plumbing running in the curb-side "chase" (that's normally covered up with carpet/flooring) with heat tape wrapped around it. There is no indication where the power comes from for the heat tape and the wires disappear behind the galley cabinets so I couldn't trace the wires. Nothing on any of the power panels mentions a breaker for the heat tape nor did I see a thermostat for it. I guess it works, 'cause we've been down to 9 degrees here during the past couple of weeks and nothing (inside or in the basement) has frozen up. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@... On the road at Golden CO On Dec 14, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote: > Your coach has little electric heaters in those spaces? You have > circuit breakers in the main panel for freeze heaters? Just > wondering, BB's are so different. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > Scott Forman <sforman@...> > wrote: Then why are there radiant > heaters in these spaces? > > I have never noticed any heat tape in my coach...then again, I wasn't > looking for it. Where is the thermostat for heat tape if I have it? > > Scott > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" > wrote: >> >> >> >> Much of the copper water lines are wrapped with an electric heat > tape. >> >> Bill 88 FC Michigan >> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@> >> wrote: >>> >>> I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the > kitchen >>> sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water > heater >>> compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of >> water, >>> so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they > are >>> there for a little insurance on a very cold night. >>> >>> Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank > (under >>> curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? >>> >>> Scott Forman >>> 86 PT38 >>> Memphis >>> |
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12-14-2007, 11:59
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Yes, small electric radiant heaters similar to to an old fashioned
baseboard heater. Each one has a separate industrial thermostat that allows temp setting from 30-110 degrees. There are two breakers for these heaters. Scott --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert > > Your coach has little electric heaters in those spaces? You have circuit breakers in the main panel for freeze heaters? Just wondering, BB's are so different. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > Scott Forman <sforman@...> wrote: Then why are there radiant heaters in these spaces? > > I have never noticed any heat tape in my coach...then again, I wasn't > looking for it. Where is the thermostat for heat tape if I have it? > > Scott > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" > wrote: > > > > > > > > Much of the copper water lines are wrapped with an electric heat > tape. > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the > kitchen > > > sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water > heater > > > compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of > > water, > > > so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they > are > > > there for a little insurance on a very cold night. > > > > > > Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank > (under > > > curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? > > > > > > Scott Forman > > > 86 PT38 > > > Memphis > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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12-14-2007, 14:49
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I would not mind having those if needed. Even with hydronic heat mine had a wire
type freeze heater, can't remember the name now since I removed them. I did not know they were there. Mine were hidden wrapped inside the insulation of the plumbing, they somehow got crossed over, shorted out an fried the water pipe in half. The circuit breaker did not trip. I am just happy the water pump was on. It did flood the bus up and down but that is better than burning up. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion Scott Forman <sforman@...> wrote: Yes, small electric radiant heaters similar to to an old fashioned baseboard heater. Each one has a separate industrial thermostat that allows temp setting from 30-110 degrees. There are two breakers for these heaters. Scott --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert > > Your coach has little electric heaters in those spaces? You have circuit breakers in the main panel for freeze heaters? Just wondering, BB's are so different. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > Scott Forman <sforman@...> wrote: Then why are there radiant heaters in these spaces? > > I have never noticed any heat tape in my coach...then again, I wasn't > looking for it. Where is the thermostat for heat tape if I have it? > > Scott > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" > wrote: > > > > > > > > Much of the copper water lines are wrapped with an electric heat > tape. > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the > kitchen > > > sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water > heater > > > compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of > > water, > > > so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they > are > > > there for a little insurance on a very cold night. > > > > > > Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank > (under > > > curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? > > > > > > Scott Forman > > > 86 PT38 > > > Memphis > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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12-14-2007, 15:19
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Pete,
The freeze tape is connected to a regular 120v duplex outlet behind the false back of the kitchen cabinet and is controlled by the Freeze Heater Breaker in the main 120v fuse panel. I know of 2 for sure in my coach they are under the sink in the kitchen against the inside wall. The cabinets are not heated and being against an outside wall, I suppose in very cold weather they could freeze while the interior of the coach is toasty warm. My coach sat outside all last winter no problems. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC ----- Original Message ---- From: Pete Masterson To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:42:55 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Freeze Heaters My coach depends primarily on the AquaHot-heated basement to protect against freezing. However, while replacing the floor, I discovered a small length of plumbing running in the curb-side "chase" (that's normally covered up with carpet/flooring) with heat tape wrapped around it. There is no indication where the power comes from for the heat tape and the wires disappear behind the galley cabinets so I couldn't trace the wires. Nothing on any of the power panels mentions a breaker for the heat tape nor did I see a thermostat for it. I guess it works, 'cause we've been down to 9 degrees here during the past couple of weeks and nothing (inside or in the basement) has frozen up. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@mac. com On the road at Golden CO On Dec 14, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote: > Your coach has little electric heaters in those spaces? You have > circuit breakers in the main panel for freeze heaters? Just > wondering, BB's are so different. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > Scott Forman <sforman@renasant. com> > wrote: Then why are there radiant > heaters in these spaces? > > I have never noticed any heat tape in my coach...then again, I wasn't > looking for it. Where is the thermostat for heat tape if I have it? > > Scott > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "pattypape" > wrote: >> >> >> >> Much of the copper water lines are wrapped with an electric heat > tape. >> >> Bill 88 FC Michigan >> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@> >> wrote: >>> >>> I have located three freeze heaters on my PT...one behind the > kitchen >>> sink, one under the street-side twin bed, and one in the water > heater >>> compartment. They all appear to work. The coach is drained of >> water, >>> so I doubt I will use them much, but it will be nice to know they > are >>> there for a little insurance on a very cold night. >>> >>> Are these the only three? What about heating the water tank > (under >>> curb-side twin bed) or the bathroom plumbing? >>> >>> Scott Forman >>> 86 PT38 >>> Memphis >>> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/...y=shopping [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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12-15-2007, 08:23
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That good to know. I note that the _thermostat_ for the under-galley
Perfectoe electric heater is located on an exterior wall. In the current weather situation, it runs constantly even with the thermostat set to a very low temperature. (It was 9 degrees early this AM.) I realized that the cold from the outside was reaching the thermostat through the wall... I'd expect that the heat tape is very needed in those locations behind the sink cabinets and in the wire chase where I observed it. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@... On the road at Golden CO. On Dec 14, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote: > Pete, > > The freeze tape is connected to a regular 120v duplex outlet behind > the false back of the kitchen cabinet and is controlled by the > Freeze Heater Breaker in the main 120v fuse panel. I know of 2 for > sure in my coach they are under the sink in the kitchen against the > inside wall. The cabinets are not heated and being against an > outside wall, I suppose in very cold weather they could freeze > while the interior of the coach is toasty warm. My coach sat > outside all last winter no problems. |
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