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Dash EL Inverter Locations
09-22-2006, 03:01
Post: #11
Dash EL Inverter Locations
Don,

I only see what looks like globs of silicone on the panel back, with the
wire going through the silicone. What am I missing? Is there a plug
under the silicone?

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



dspithaler@... wrote:

>Curt
> Mine had a loose wire on the right upper side that when I plugged it in
>every thing worked fine except the small middle section.
> Don
> 89 SP 36'
> Butler, PA
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>Don,
>Good question. I don't recall if the altimeter would light up. Once I
>had the upper dash working, it soon failed which could be caused by me
>doing a lot of work up in there. I have not gotten back to testing that.
>Will do so soon, maybe. It is on my to-do-list.
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09-22-2006, 03:51
Post: #12
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Curt STOP:

There is no plug , the wires are attached to a foil,
do not disconnect, These wires can not be reconnected.
Go the other way follow the wires, to
the inverter. 12 volts IN AC volts OUT , the Hz are way
more than 60 Hz. maybe 200/ 300 Hz The voltage may be 110
or probably much higher RMS voltage 250 Volts
depending on your meter and reostat setting.
You can hear a faint Hum, and any voltage reading
is probably a good sign, I suggest you replace the inverters
with the new from Stephen. Makes the Gingerbread much brighter

Bill 88 FC

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> Don,
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> I only see what looks like globs of silicone on the panel back,
with the
> wire going through the silicone. What am I missing? Is there a
plug
> under the silicone?
>
> Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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> dspithaler@... wrote:
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> >Curt
> > Mine had a loose wire on the right upper side that when I
plugged it in
> >every thing worked fine except the small middle section.
> > Don
> > 89 SP 36'
> > Butler, PA
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> >Don,
> >Good question. I don't recall if the altimeter would light up.
Once I
> >had the upper dash working, it soon failed which could be caused
by me
> >doing a lot of work up in there. I have not gotten back to
testing that.
> >Will do so soon, maybe. It is on my to-do-list.
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09-22-2006, 03:57
Post: #13
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No, the altimeter does not light.

Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
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From: Curt Sprenger
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Dash EL Inverter Locations


Don,
Good question. I don't recall if the altimeter would light up. Once I
had the upper dash working, it soon failed which could be caused by me
doing a lot of work up in there. I have not gotten back to testing that.
Will do so soon, maybe. It is on my to-do-list.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

dspithaler@... wrote:

>Curt
> Does your Altimeter panel light up. If it is suppose to mine doesn't.
>Only the panels on each side.
>Don
>89 SP 36'
>Butler, PA
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>One upper dash inverter. Multiple panels...a left panel, a right panel,
>and the Altimeter between the two.
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09-22-2006, 04:39
Post: #14
Dash EL Inverter Locations
Bill,
I replaced the original inverters, got them from Stephen. The upper EL
panels came alive after R&R the inverters. Now they don't come alive.
The trouble is most likely me working in the upper dash, and I caused
the problem.

Do you recall if the inverters 12VDC feed is fused?

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



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>Curt STOP:
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>There is no plug , the wires are attached to a foil,
>do not disconnect, These wires can not be reconnected.
>Go the other way follow the wires, to
>the inverter. 12 volts IN AC volts OUT , the Hz are way
>more than 60 Hz. maybe 200/ 300 Hz The voltage may be 110
>or probably much higher RMS voltage 250 Volts
>depending on your meter and reostat setting.
>You can hear a faint Hum, and any voltage reading
>is probably a good sign, I suggest you replace the inverters
>with the new from Stephen. Makes the Gingerbread much brighter
>
>Bill 88 FC
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>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
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>>I only see what looks like globs of silicone on the panel back,
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>>wire going through the silicone. What am I missing? Is there a
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>>Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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>>> Mine had a loose wire on the right upper side that when I
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>>>every thing worked fine except the small middle section.
>>>Don
>>>89 SP 36'
>>>Butler, PA
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>>>Don,
>>>Good question. I don't recall if the altimeter would light up.
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>testing that.
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>>>Will do so soon, maybe. It is on my to-do-list.
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>>>Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38
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09-22-2006, 06:14
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Dash EL Inverter Locations
Leroy, The late Sid Clark had a Royal conversion. No goat rails, and very
nice inside. A member of the forum purchased that coach.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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09-22-2006, 08:29
Post: #16
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Sorry Curt,

I did not trace the circuit, nor did I need to find a fuse or
circuit breaker. Start by looking at the master electrical drawing
for your 87 8v.
The EL, AC wireing on our 88 is color coded solid black and solid
green. These wires are heavier than expected and really stiff.
You may have a loose connection, BB also used those push-on
connectors and splice connectors that sometimes become loose.
I hard wired to the new inverters to eliminate some of these
troublesome contact connections.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
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> Bill,
> I replaced the original inverters, got them from Stephen. The
upper EL
> panels came alive after R&R the inverters. Now they don't come
alive.
> The trouble is most likely me working in the upper dash, and I
caused
> the problem.
>
> Do you recall if the inverters 12VDC feed is fused?
>
> Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
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> pattypape wrote:
>
> >Curt STOP:
> >
> >There is no plug , the wires are attached to a foil,
> >do not disconnect, These wires can not be reconnected.
> >Go the other way follow the wires, to
> >the inverter. 12 volts IN AC volts OUT , the Hz are way
> >more than 60 Hz. maybe 200/ 300 Hz The voltage may be 110
> >or probably much higher RMS voltage 250 Volts
> >depending on your meter and reostat setting.
> >You can hear a faint Hum, and any voltage reading
> >is probably a good sign, I suggest you replace the inverters
> >with the new from Stephen. Makes the Gingerbread much brighter
> >
> >Bill 88 FC
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> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
> > wrote:
> >
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> >>Don,
> >>
> >>I only see what looks like globs of silicone on the panel back,
> >>
> >>
> >with the
> >
> >
> >>wire going through the silicone. What am I missing? Is there a
> >>
> >>
> >plug
> >
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> >>under the silicone?
> >>
> >>Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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> >>dspithaler@ wrote:
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> >>>Curt
> >>> Mine had a loose wire on the right upper side that when I
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> >plugged it in
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> >>>every thing worked fine except the small middle section.
> >>>Don
> >>>89 SP 36'
> >>>Butler, PA
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> >>>Don,
> >>>Good question. I don't recall if the altimeter would light up.
> >>>
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> >Once I
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> >>>had the upper dash working, it soon failed which could be
caused
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> >by me
> >
> >
> >>>doing a lot of work up in there. I have not gotten back to
> >>>
> >>>
> >testing that.
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> >
> >>>Will do so soon, maybe. It is on my to-do-list.
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09-22-2006, 10:54
Post: #17
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Thanks Ernie: I will follow up with BB next week

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL


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Leroy, The late Sid Clark had a Royal conversion. No goat rails, and very
nice inside. A member of the forum purchased that coach.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana

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09-22-2006, 11:13
Post: #18
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One upper dash inverter. Multiple panels...a left panel, a right panel,
and the Altimeter between the two.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



Leroy Eckert wrote:

>Curt: Thanks, this winter I am going to look again for the inverters that
power my overhead panel. I have a Royal conversion and cannot remove the panel,
encased with wood. It is the only one that does not work so I think the problem
is in the inverters. Cannot find them. I don't know how I going to do it but
will try again. There are many stereo, TV and other cables in the overhead
cabs. Looks like good Italian spaghetti.
> So there was only on inverter cube that powered your complete overhead panel?
Is there only one panel? I think I have three.
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>1990 WB-40
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09-22-2006, 11:15
Post: #19
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Curt
I just went out & opened up my right side top dash & looked at it.
Yours might not be like mine but I have two wires coming from the left side.
One is green & the other is black. They have a male & a female plug on each
wire & are connected & from there they go to a silicone glob in the dash. The
glob is right below the Batt Charge & Coach Load Gage. It was the black wire
that was disconnected in mine. To make sure I unplugged it & I didn't have
any lights on the right side. I think they do it like this because they don't
light the altimeter gage area. My guess??? Hope this helps.
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

Don,

I only see what looks like globs of silicone on the panel back, with the
wire going through the silicone. What am I missing? Is there a plug
under the silicone?

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

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09-22-2006, 16:54
Post: #20
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Don,
Good question. I don't recall if the altimeter would light up. Once I
had the upper dash working, it soon failed which could be caused by me
doing a lot of work up in there. I have not gotten back to testing that.
Will do so soon, maybe. It is on my to-do-list.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.



dspithaler@... wrote:

>Curt
> Does your Altimeter panel light up. If it is suppose to mine doesn't.
>Only the panels on each side.
>Don
>89 SP 36'
>Butler, PA
>
>
>
>One upper dash inverter. Multiple panels...a left panel, a right panel,
>and the Altimeter between the two.
>
>Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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