Generator woes Update
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07-28-2005, 18:10
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Generator woes Update
We are in Portland, Oregon now at EC Power Systems who were
recommended by Power Tech. They seem to know much more what to do. The problem is in the electrical box behind the generator, the wires leading to the voltage regulator overheated and burned some distance back from the connection that failed. So they are having to get back to where the wire is sound to do the splice. They had to move the slide and generator farther out of its bay. It's amazing what can be done with a fork lift. We all discussed how difficult the generator is to troubleshoot because of the difficulty of getting to the rear of the generator. We are in the coach tonight locked in the yard behind their fence as they were in the middle of the job at quitting time. Julie Bonser 1992 WLWB PT 40' EC Power Systems, Portland, OR On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:06 AM, George Lowry wrote: > Julie, > > We have been off line until today so couldn't answer sooner. Wrico > Generators in Eugene, OR uses the Fidelity Alternator and Dick is very > knowledgeable of the generators. Suggest you try them if you have not > got service any other place. Voice: (541) 744-4333 Wrico > International, LLC > 86337 College View Rd. > Eugene, OR 97405 > > http://www.wricointernational.com > > Hope this helps, > > George > > > Julia Bonser wrote: > > >> We have been at Cummins/Onan in Spokane for 3 1/2 hours and are not >> better off. They figured out there is no electrical output from the >> generator (which we already knew). There is no electricity getting >> to the transfer switch and the technician said he would have to pull >> the generator to trouble shot what was wrong with the armature and >> windings. It makes more sense to find a place that is familiar with >> this generating system and of course by now all the information is >> at places in the Eastern time zone and it is after working hours. >> >> We need to know where in either Portland or Seattle there is a >> electric generator repair shop. There is nothing in the manual that >> recommends service centers for the Fidelity Electric Continuous Duty >> Alternator. >> >> >> Julie Bonser 1992 WLWB PT 40' >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.2.0 - Release Date: 5/27/2005 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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07-29-2005, 03:40
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Generator woes Update
Hi Julia,
--- Julia Bonser > They > had to move the > slide and generator farther out of its bay. It's > amazing what can be > done with a fork lift. Just be aware that they may also have had to "un-weld" some "stops" to slide the generator forward in the manner you describe. (Hopefully, they did not just pull the generator forward past the stops with the forklift.) Regardless, it may be wise to ensure they re-weld the "stops" as one can't rely on the plunger arm to hold the generator in the closed position when the coach makes a sudden stop. While the owner will remain name-less, I saw a Bird which made such a "quick" stop and the generator had to be retrieved from the pavement and re-installed in the Bird. To double-check might be called "an ounce of prevention..." John Suter ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs |
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07-29-2005, 07:34
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser
wrote: > > We are in Portland, Oregon now at EC Power Systems who were > recommended by Power Tech. They seem to know much more what to do. > The problem is in the electrical box behind the generator, the wires > leading to the voltage regulator overheated and burned some distance > back from the connection that failed. So they are having to get back > to where the wire is sound to do the splice. They had to move the > slide and generator farther out of its bay. It's amazing what can be > done with a fork lift. > > We all discussed how difficult the generator is to troubleshoot > because of the difficulty of getting to the rear of the generator. > > We are in the coach tonight locked in the yard behind their fence as > they were in the middle of the job at quitting time. > > > Julie Bonser > 1992 WLWB PT 40' > EC Power Systems, Portland, OR Howdy, Julie. Whew!! We are so glad that your generator's problem has been diagnosed!! Did the techs give you any reason as to WHY those wires overheated? How do you avoid having this problem in the future? Inquiring minds want to know. Best regards, Jack and Liz Pearce Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WB40 Homesick Texans in SE. FL |
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07-29-2005, 18:24
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All they could say is there was a loose connection probably caused by
vibration over time. It is possible that a good thump caused by hitting a road gator could have done it but there is no proving it. I'm not sure how to avoid the problem in the future as we plan on continuing to travel in our motorhome. It is not ordinarily a place that would put on a regular maintenance schedule to tighten up loose fittings etc. The technician had to work quite hard physically to wrest out the generator even with the help of the fork lift and jacks to stabilize it. Then he had to reach back and down to get inside the box to manipulate the wires to splice and redo the connections. He also broke the light panel across the front of the motorhome. It has light bulbs behind it. We have to phone Bluebird Monday as we all know they don't answer the phone on Friday for the replacement. Julie Bonser 1992 WLWB PT 40' RV Park in Clackamas County, Oregon On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Jack and Liz Pearce wrote: > > Howdy, Julie. > > Whew!! We are so glad that your generator's problem has been > diagnosed!! Did the techs give you any reason as to WHY those wires > overheated? How do you avoid having this problem in the future? > Inquiring minds want to know. > > |
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07-29-2005, 18:33
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Thanks for the warning John, I was able to check with the technician
before we left the shop. He says that would have been true for the older slides but in this case the ram holds the generator slide in place. This is an electric slide and the generator is not going to slide anywhere beyond the motorhome easily. Julie Bonser 1992 WLWB PT 40' RV Park Clackamas County Oregon On Jul 29, 2005, at 8:40 AM, John Suter wrote: > Hi Julia, > > --- Julia Bonser > > >> They >> had to move the >> slide and generator farther out of its bay. It's >> amazing what can be >> done with a fork lift. >> > > Just be aware that they may also have had to > "un-weld" some "stops" to slide the generator forward > in the manner you describe. (Hopefully, they did not > just pull the generator forward past the stops with > the forklift.) Regardless, it may be wise to ensure > they re-weld the "stops" as one can't rely on the > plunger arm to hold the generator in the closed > position when the coach makes a sudden stop. > > While the owner will remain name-less, I saw a Bird > which made such a "quick" stop and the generator had > to be retrieved from the pavement and re-installed in > the Bird. To double-check might be called "an ounce > of prevention..." > > John Suter > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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07-30-2005, 02:08
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Julia Bonser
wrote: > All they could say is there was a loose connection probably caused by > vibration over time. It is possible that a good thump caused by > hitting a road gator could have done it but there is no proving it. > I'm not sure how to avoid the problem in the future as we plan on > continuing to travel in our motorhome. It is not ordinarily a place > that would put on a regular maintenance schedule to tighten up loose > fittings etc.>>> Ah. OK. > > The technician had to work quite hard physically to wrest out the > generator even with the help of the fork lift and jacks to stabilize > it. Then he had to reach back and down to get inside the box to > manipulate the wires to splice and redo the connections. He also > broke the light panel across the front of the motorhome. It has light > bulbs behind it. We have to phone Bluebird Monday as we all know they > don't answer the phone on Friday for the replacement.>> Bummer on the broken light panel. Is the shop paying for the replacement? Glad that your genset is now working properly. Very important piece of equipment that generator. Best Regards, Jack and Liz Pearce Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WB40 Homesick Texans in SE. FL |
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07-30-2005, 05:43
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Yes they are paying for the replacement. It really needed replacing
anyway as it was crazed a bit from the leather bra that was on the front of the bird. Julie Bonser 1992 WLWB PT 40' Clackamas County, Oregon across the road from a WalMart and a Home Depot. On Jul 30, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Jack and Liz Pearce wrote: > Bummer on the broken light panel. Is the shop paying for the > replacement? > > |
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