Tool tip working on Birds
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05-30-2007, 00:25
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Tool tip working on Birds
Good morning everyone:
I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as many worries put aside as possible. One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not worry about arcing and sparking. hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school. Just some thoughts, Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 Duncan, Oklahoma |
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05-30-2007, 01:37
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It's a good thought... my brother-in-law worked as a maintenance
electrician in several large facilities -- he had a whole set of screwdrivers made with a plastic sleeve covering the shaft, leaving just a bit of the tip exposed. I will say, the man had nerves of steel. An old apartment house my mom owned required a new service box for one of the units. It had to be wired hot (to avoid shutting down the other apartments and the bother of getting the power company out to disconnect/reconnect the wire at the pole. There was no 'master' switch.). While working on it, a regular screwdriver brushed against a connector on the conduit -- an impressive shower of sparks filled the air. My brother-in-law didn't even flinch. His comment, " -- I thought that thing was plastic!" Pete Masterson aeonix1@... '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42' El Sobrante, CA On May 30, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Ralph L. Fullenwider wrote: > Good morning everyone: > > I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical > with as > many worries put aside as possible. > > One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of > clear > tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all > but the > tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters > and not > worry about arcing and sparking. > hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at > least wrap > the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding > school. > > Just some thoughts, > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > 84FC35 > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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05-30-2007, 02:07
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Tool tip working on Birds
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From: Ralph L. Fullenwider To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:25 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds Morning Ralph My screwdrivers are coverd with tap I dont have access to hospital oxy masks tubbing like you do (grin) Hope to see you at the rats rally. Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 On the road in N.D. Good morning everyone: I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as many worries put aside as possible. One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not worry about arcing and sparking. hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school. Just some thoughts, Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 Duncan, Oklahoma [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-30-2007, 04:33
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Tool tip working on Birds
Many years ago (when company gave customer service), my father worked
for Edison Company. Back then, they had Range Repairmen who would fix a broken electric stove at no charge. It was a matter of course that when a rangeman wanted to check if any power was coming in, he would lick two fingers and touch them to the wires. Then say, "Yep, 220", or whatevere the voltage was, if any.. I would watch in awe over this.I still am in awe, if I tried this, I would end up on my butt!! Jack Smith --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson wrote: > > It's a good thought... my brother-in-law worked as a maintenance > electrician in several large facilities -- he had a whole set of > screwdrivers made with a plastic sleeve covering the shaft, leaving > just a bit of the tip exposed. > > I will say, the man had nerves of steel. An old apartment house my > mom owned required a new service box for one of the units. It had to > be wired hot (to avoid shutting down the other apartments and the > bother of getting the power company out to disconnect/reconnect the > wire at the pole. There was no 'master' switch.). While working on > it, a regular screwdriver brushed against a connector on the conduit > -- an impressive shower of sparks filled the air. My brother-in-law > didn't even flinch. His comment, " > -- I thought that thing was plastic!" > > Pete Masterson > aeonix1@... > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42' > El Sobrante, CA > > > > > On May 30, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Ralph L. Fullenwider wrote: > > > Good morning everyone: > > > > I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical > > with as > > many worries put aside as possible. > > > > One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of > > clear > > tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all > > but the > > tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters > > and not > > worry about arcing and sparking. > > hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at > > least wrap > > the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding > > school. > > > > Just some thoughts, > > > > Safe travels, > > > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > > 84FC35 > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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05-30-2007, 15:04
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Thanks Ralph. Only one caution of this, it does not make the screwdriver
invincible. Continue to check for damage when using it. On the same note, electrical heat shrink works really well too. Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Ralph L. Fullenwider To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:25:27 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds Good morning everyone: I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as many worries put aside as possible. One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not worry about arcing and sparking. hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school. Just some thoughts, Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 Duncan, Oklahoma <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o {font-size:0;} .MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq {margin:4;} --> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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05-30-2007, 15:23
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The best way is to turn off the power to the dash and anywhere where
you are working with power. No matter how easy you are sooner or later you will screw up and short something out. The wires on these old dashes are very stiff and if someone was careless before you and left a nick in a wire just removing the dash will cause problems that may cost you a lot of time. It you are going to remove the lower and upper dash carefully pull up the bottom dash first, reach behind it and using your hand gently guide the wires back to keep the stain off the dash components. The dashes were originally tie wrapped at the dash to prevent this but no telling what someone else has done so be cautious the first time you open it up. And if you are going to remove the lower and upper dash to work on it, make sure the barrel connectors or the plastic male/female plugs are marked with indelible ink (like the factory originally used) so you can put everything back together right. When I rebuilt my dash one of the plugs was mismarked and I didnt do this. Took a lot of extra time to rewire it correctly. If anyone wants to see what a FC dash looks like when it comes apart take a look here. http://tinyurl.com/2dhbxn See picture P1040010 the upper left side of the upper dash, the blank accessory slot. Pull that out and behind it is the screw for the left side of the upper dash. The left screw is holding the microphone holder to the outside of the dash. Tom warner vernon center,ny 1985 Pt 40 At 11:04 PM 5/30/2007, you wrote: >Thanks Ralph. Only one caution of this, it does not make the >screwdriver invincible. Continue to check for damage when using it. >On the same note, electrical heat shrink works really well too. > >Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" >Terrace, B.C. Canada > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Ralph L. Fullenwider >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:25:27 AM >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning everyone: > > > >I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as > >many worries put aside as possible. > > > >One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear > >tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the > >tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not > >worry about arcing and sparking. > >hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap > >the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school. > > > >Just some thoughts, > > > >Safe travels, > > > >Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > >84FC35 > >Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><!-- > >#ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} >#ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} >#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, >clean, sans-serif;} >#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} >#ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} >#ygrp-text{ >font-family:Georgia; >} >#ygrp-text p{ >margin:0 0 1em 0;} >#ygrp-tpmsgs{ >font-family:Arial; >clear:both;} >#ygrp-vitnav{ >padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} >#ygrp-vitnav a{ >padding:0 1px;} >#ygrp-actbar{ >clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} >#ygrp-actbar .left{ >float:left;white-space:nowrap;} >.bld{font-weight:bold;} >#ygrp-grft{ >font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} >#ygrp-ft{ >font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; >padding:5px 0; >} >#ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ >padding-bottom:10px;} > >#ygrp-vital{ >background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} >#ygrp-vital #vithd{ >font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:up\ percase;} >#ygrp-vital ul{ >padding:0;margin:2px 0;} >#ygrp-vital ul li{ >list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; >} >#ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ >font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-r\ ight:.5em;} >#ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ >font-weight:bold;} >#ygrp-vital a { >text-decoration:none;} > >#ygrp-vital a:hover{ >text-decoration:underline;} > >#ygrp-sponsor #hd{ >color:#999;font-size:77%;} >#ygrp-sponsor #ov{ >padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} >#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ >padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} >#ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ >list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} >#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ >text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} >#ygrp-sponsor #nc { >background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad{ >padding:8px 0;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ >font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122\ %;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ >text-decoration:none;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ >text-decoration:underline;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ >margin:0;} >o {font-size:0;} >.MsoNormal { >margin:0 0 0 0;} >#ygrp-text tt{ >font-size:120%;} >blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} >.replbq {margin:4;} >--> > > > > > > > > > Be smarter than spam. 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05-31-2007, 00:59
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Tom,
Could you please tell me what the toggle switch on the front of the base of the dash assembly is for??? That is the one on the oposite side of the spring brake knob... I have a switch there, but do not know what it goes too... Sea Ya Larry NYC 84 35FCSB ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Warner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:23:31 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds The best way is to turn off the power to the dash and anywhere where you are working with power. No matter how easy you are sooner or later you will screw up and short something out. The wires on these old dashes are very stiff and if someone was careless before you and left a nick in a wire just removing the dash will cause problems that may cost you a lot of time. It you are going to remove the lower and upper dash carefully pull up the bottom dash first, reach behind it and using your hand gently guide the wires back to keep the stain off the dash components. The dashes were originally tie wrapped at the dash to prevent this but no telling what someone else has done so be cautious the first time you open it up. And if you are going to remove the lower and upper dash to work on it, make sure the barrel connectors or the plastic male/female plugs are marked with indelible ink (like the factory originally used) so you can put everything back together right. When I rebuilt my dash one of the plugs was mismarked and I didnt do this. Took a lot of extra time to rewire it correctly. If anyone wants to see what a FC dash looks like when it comes apart take a look here. http://tinyurl. com/2dhbxn See picture P1040010 the upper left side of the upper dash, the blank accessory slot. Pull that out and behind it is the screw for the left side of the upper dash. The left screw is holding the microphone holder to the outside of the dash. Tom warner vernon center,ny 1985 Pt 40 At 11:04 PM 5/30/2007, you wrote: >Thanks Ralph. Only one caution of this, it does not make the >screwdriver invincible. Continue to check for damage when using it. >On the same note, electrical heat shrink works really well too. > >Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" >Terrace, B.C. Canada > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Ralph L. Fullenwider >To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:25:27 AM >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning everyone: > > > >I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as > >many worries put aside as possible. > > > >One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear > >tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the > >tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not > >worry about arcing and sparking. > >hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap > >the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school. > > > >Just some thoughts, > > > >Safe travels, > > > >Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > >84FC35 > >Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><!-- > >#ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} >#ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} >#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, >clean, sans-serif;} >#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} >#ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} >#ygrp-text{ >font-family: Georgia; >} >#ygrp-text p{ >margin:0 0 1em 0;} >#ygrp-tpmsgs{ >font-family: Arial; >clear:both; } >#ygrp-vitnav{ >padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} >#ygrp-vitnav a{ >padding:0 1px;} >#ygrp-actbar{ >clear:both; margin:25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } >#ygrp-actbar .left{ >float:left; white-space: nowrap;} >.bld{font-weight: bold;} >#ygrp-grft{ >font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} >#ygrp-ft{ >font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; >padding:5px 0; >} >#ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ >padding-bottom: 10px;} > >#ygrp-vital{ >background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;padding: 2px 0 8px 8px;} >#ygrp-vital #vithd{ >font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } >#ygrp-vital ul{ >padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} >#ygrp-vital ul li{ >list-style- type:none; clear:both; border:1px solid #e0ecee; >} >#ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ >font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} >#ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ >font-weight: bold;} >#ygrp-vital a { >text-decoration: none;} > >#ygrp-vital a:hover{ >text-decoration: underline; } > >#ygrp-sponsor #hd{ >color:#999; font-size: 77%;} >#ygrp-sponsor #ov{ >padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} >#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ >padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } >#ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ >list-style- type:square; padding:6px 0;font-size: 77%;} >#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ >text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} >#ygrp-sponsor #nc { >background- color:#eee; margin-bottom: 20px;padding: 0 8px;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad{ >padding:8px 0;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ >font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: 100%;line- height:122% ;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ >text-decoration: none;} >#ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ >text-decoration: underline; } >#ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ >margin:0;} >o {font-size:0; } >.MsoNormal { >margin:0 0 0 0;} >#ygrp-text tt{ >font-size:120% ;} >blockquote{ margin:0 0 0 4px;} >.replbq {margin:4;} >--> > > > > > > > > > Be smarter than spam. 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