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08-01-2008, 15:08
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It is possible to put el panel into the moulding on the side of the
coach it is very efficient and weather resistant it comes in a variety of widths up to thirty inches wide and most coach owners already have it on their coach. It is the dash boards and over head instrument panels Stephen 77fc35 |
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08-01-2008, 15:22
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Stephen,
Do you have a way to brighten the speedo and tach in our couches,I should say, my coach 95 pt-42, impossible to read at night, very dull. By the way your black water tank chemicals are by far the best I've used in 30 years of camping Bravo! Kurt Horvath 95 pt-42 WLWB 10QC --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles" > > It is possible to put el panel into the moulding on the side of the > coach it is very efficient and weather resistant it comes in a variety > of widths up to thirty inches wide and most coach owners already have > it on their coach. It is the dash boards and over head instrument panels > > Stephen 77fc35 > |
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08-01-2008, 16:16
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08-02-2008, 02:02
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Check to see if the bulbs in the gauges are burned out one in eacl of
the small gauges 2 in the tach and sppeedo Stephen 77fc35 Makers of treatzall --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath" > > Stephen, > > Do you have a way to brighten the speedo and tach in our couches,I > should say, my coach 95 pt-42, impossible to read at night, very dull. > By the way your black water tank chemicals are by far the best I've > used in 30 years of camping Bravo! > Kurt Horvath > 95 pt-42 WLWB > 10QC > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles" > > > > > It is possible to put el panel into the moulding on the side of the > > coach it is very efficient and weather resistant it comes in a variety > > of widths up to thirty inches wide and most coach owners already have > > it on their coach. It is the dash boards and over head instrument > panels > > > > Stephen 77fc35 > > > |
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08-02-2008, 02:28
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Thanks for reminding us of the basics, that's not the problem, they are
DULL, BAD design, new bulbs, still DULL. I was hoping someone had a fix for this, I've been told to try and cramm the largest buld that will fit and see how that works, Thanks FT. Valley, well it doesn't work. Any ideas??? Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC |
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08-02-2008, 02:58
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08-02-2008, 05:14
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Yes, the gauges are illuminated by little bulbs ... and they're pretty dim for the speedo and tach. I've looked carefully, and can see that no bulbs burned out. Perhaps a brighter bulb might help, but I'd be concerned that the heat output might be a problem. (Where are LEDs when we need 'em?)Â
While I find the dimness annoying, I don't drive my coach much at night, so I've just put up with it. Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 "aeonix1@mac.com" On the road at Long Beach, WA On Aug 1, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:
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08-02-2008, 06:17
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I was looking at the EL light systems website and was wondering if
the very thin white wire lights could be installed on the inside of the bezel to illuminate the dials. It looks as though you could make those lights do just about anything, see where a thread on a 3 day concert, Bonnaroo and Burningman has lead us, Darn I love the web! You might be able to tie in the controls to the dimmer for the gauges. This problem and the malfunctioning gauges, oil temp, oil pressure, water temp, is the reason why I installed the SilverLeaf VMSpc with a touch control LCD monitor in the Indulgence. Most of the other gauges work but I would like all of them to work. My other thought is to have a new EL panel made that incorporates an LCD monitor, "ala, aircraft glass panel style." In the Bluebird tradition, in combination with the old steam gauges, you'd have a great dash board that has redundancy built in Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson wrote: > > Yes, the gauges are illuminated by little bulbs ... and they're > pretty dim for the speedo and tach. I've looked carefully, and can > see that no bulbs burned out. Perhaps a brighter bulb might help, but > I'd be concerned that the heat output might be a problem. (Where are > LEDs when we need 'em?) > > While I find the dimness annoying, I don't drive my coach much at > night, so I've just put up with it. > > Pete Masterson > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > aeonix1@... > On the road at Long Beach, WA > > > > On Aug 1, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote: > > > Kurt, the EL panel on my coach has nothing to do with the > > illumination of the speedo. Pull the panel forward and you should > > see at least one light bulb attachment on the back of the gauge. > > They are back lighted with little bulbs at least on my coach. You > > may have a bulb burned out. The EL panel and the gauge lights > > should be on separate rheostats. > > Leroy Eckert > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > Dahlonega, GA > > Royale Conversion > > > > --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Kurt Horvath > > From: Kurt Horvath > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: rope lights and EL panel > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 11:22 PM > > > > Stephen, > > > > Do you have a way to brighten the speedo and tach in our couches,I > > should say, my coach 95 pt-42, impossible to read at night, very dull. > > By the way your black water tank chemicals are by far the best I've > > used in 30 years of camping Bravo! > > Kurt Horvath > > 95 pt-42 WLWB > > 10QC > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Stephen Birtles" > > > > > > > > It is possible to put el panel into the moulding on the side of the > > > coach it is very efficient and weather resistant it comes in a > > variety > > > of widths up to thirty inches wide and most coach owners already > > have > > > it on their coach. It is the dash boards and over head instrument > > panels > > > > > > Stephen 77fc35 > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-02-2008, 08:36
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Kurt, I agree with you that the gauges are hard to see at night. I
thought it was an el contrast issue. I recently ran the bus with the el off and realized that the gauges are just hard to read. I think the design of indirect bouncing light from the side of the dial is the issue. I think the dial seeing problem is more obvious now because the dial illumination has been improvrd in the newer cars we drive. I guess you could just copy the new car design ????? I bet some of the hot rod sites have gauge remakes. In a pinch If you tape a white business card across the lower gauge it helps bounce some light on the dial I think I have seen some engraving art done on plastic where the plastic was backlit or side lit or somthing. I know metal is your medium/canvas but maybe an engraved plastic watermark design over an EL backdrop then covered by an opaque decal showing values would make some cool gauges???? GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath" > > I was looking at the EL light systems website and was wondering if > the very thin white wire lights could be installed on the inside of > the bezel to illuminate the dials. > > It looks as though you could make those lights do just about > anything, see where a thread on a 3 day concert, Bonnaroo and > Burningman has lead us, Darn I love the web! > > You might be able to tie in the controls to the dimmer for the > gauges. > > This problem and the malfunctioning gauges, oil temp, oil pressure, > water temp, is the reason why I installed the SilverLeaf VMSpc with > a touch control LCD monitor in the Indulgence. Most of the other > gauges work but I would like all of them to work. > > My other thought is to have a new EL panel made that incorporates an > LCD monitor, "ala, aircraft glass panel style." In the Bluebird > tradition, in combination with the old steam gauges, you'd have a > great dash board that has redundancy built in > > Kurt Horvath > 95 PT-42 WLWB > 10AC > > > -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson > wrote: > > > > Yes, the gauges are illuminated by little bulbs ... and they're > > pretty dim for the speedo and tach. I've looked carefully, and > can > > see that no bulbs burned out. Perhaps a brighter bulb might help, > but > > I'd be concerned that the heat output might be a problem. (Where > are > > LEDs when we need 'em?) > > > > While I find the dimness annoying, I don't drive my coach much at > > night, so I've just put up with it. > > > > Pete Masterson > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > > aeonix1@ > > On the road at Long Beach, WA > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote: > > > > > Kurt, the EL panel on my coach has nothing to do with the > > > illumination of the speedo. Pull the panel forward and you > should > > > see at least one light bulb attachment on the back of the > gauge. > > > They are back lighted with little bulbs at least on my coach. > You > > > may have a bulb burned out. The EL panel and the gauge lights > > > should be on separate rheostats. > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > > Dahlonega, GA > > > Royale Conversion > > > > > > --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Kurt Horvath > > > From: Kurt Horvath > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: rope lights and EL panel > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 11:22 PM > > > > > > Stephen, > > > > > > Do you have a way to brighten the speedo and tach in our > couches,I > > > should say, my coach 95 pt-42, impossible to read at night, very > dull. > > > By the way your black water tank chemicals are by far the best > I've > > > used in 30 years of camping Bravo! > > > Kurt Horvath > > > 95 pt-42 WLWB > > > 10QC > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Stephen Birtles" > > > > > > > > > > > It is possible to put el panel into the moulding on the side > of the > > > > coach it is very efficient and weather resistant it comes in > a > > > variety > > > > of widths up to thirty inches wide and most coach owners > already > > > have > > > > it on their coach. It is the dash boards and over head > instrument > > > panels > > > > > > > > Stephen 77fc35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-03-2008, 02:49
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I guess none of the BB engineers ever drove one at night. Our 88FC
also has that same night vision problem. I am tempted to install some beehive ugly blue lights high up that would shine on the dash!! Very 50's!! Bruce 1988 FC 35 |
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