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re-doing battery compartment & Cables
04-15-2005, 13:08
Post: #1
re-doing battery compartment & Cables
Well, after all the comment's I might have to reconsider my method's.
I have used the solder connection in the past and it always seemed to
work good. I used it on my 84pt and it seemed to work very well for a
number of years. I always heated both the wire and the fitting before
inserting the cable into the hot solder. used heat shrink on the cable
and it always seemed to be ok. I wonder what the difference in
resistance is in copper direct verses the solder direct? Now I have to
give this lot's of thought. I have the old charger's out and all the
trays sandblasted , now Iam ready to do the epoxy paint. Thanks for the
input and I welcome any more suggestions. I really like doing the
solder connections, But? Thanks...Bob 93pt Illinois....
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04-15-2005, 13:15
Post: #2
re-doing battery compartment & Cables
Bob there should be places where you live that will either let you borrow
or rent a large pair of crimpers to put the cable ends on. Advance Auto
here has a pair and I am sure NAPA does also. Crimping the terminals like
this and then putting heavy wall heat shrink on them will give you the
lowest resistance terminations. When the crimp is completed you will not be
able to either remove or loosen the cables within the terminal. This crimp
virtually forms a solid mass within the terminals mating the cable to the
terminal end. Believe me it works and is the method used by power companies
etc.


Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center, NY
In the beautiful Mohawk Valley


At 01:08 AM 4/16/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>Well, after all the comment's I might have to reconsider my method's.
>I have used the solder connection in the past and it always seemed to
>work good. I used it on my 84pt and it seemed to work very well for a
>number of years. I always heated both the wire and the fitting before
>inserting the cable into the hot solder. used heat shrink on the cable
>and it always seemed to be ok. I wonder what the difference in
>resistance is in copper direct verses the solder direct? Now I have to
>give this lot's of thought. I have the old charger's out and all the
>trays sandblasted , now Iam ready to do the epoxy paint. Thanks for the
>input and I welcome any more suggestions. I really like doing the
>solder
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04-15-2005, 14:06
Post: #3
re-doing battery compartment & Cables
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob & Carol Howald`"
wrote:
>
> Well, after all the comment's I might have to reconsider my
method's.
> I have used the solder connection in the past and it always seemed to
> work good. I used it on my 84pt and it seemed to work very well for a
> number of years. I always heated both the wire and the fitting before
> inserting the cable into the hot solder. used heat shrink on the
cable
> and it always seemed to be ok. I wonder what the difference in
> resistance is in copper direct verses the solder direct? Now I have
to
> give this lot's of thought. I have the old charger's out and all the
> trays sandblasted , now Iam ready to do the epoxy paint. Thanks for
the
> input and I welcome any more suggestions. I really like doing the
> solder connections, But? Thanks...Bob 93pt Illinois....

Bob, you gonna put epoxy primer under that?
Sid Clark in Dallas-91WBSA40
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04-15-2005, 14:12
Post: #4
re-doing battery compartment & Cables
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Sid Clark"
<sidclark99@y...> wrote:
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob & Carol Howald`"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, after all the comment's I might have to reconsider my
> method's.
> > I have used the solder connection in the past and it always
seemed to
> > work good. I used it on my 84pt and it seemed to work very well
for a
> > number of years. I always heated both the wire and the fitting
before
> > inserting the cable into the hot solder. used heat shrink on the
> cable
> > and it always seemed to be ok. I wonder what the difference in
> > resistance is in copper direct verses the solder direct? Now I h






:
Sid Iam not familiar with the epoxy primer. What I"ve used in the
past is just the two part paint that come's in a box and you mix the
two together for use on appliances etc. Tell me about the primer.
I've got the tray's down to bare metal. Thanks Bob 93pt Illinois
> to
> > give this lot's of thought. I have the old charger's out and all
the
> > trays sandblasted , now Iam ready to do the epoxy paint. Thanks
for
> the
> > input and I welcome any more suggestions. I really like doing the
> > solder connections, But? Thanks...Bob 93pt Illinois....
>
> Bob, you gonna put epoxy primer under that?
> Sid Clark in Dallas-91WBSA40
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04-16-2005, 05:04
Post: #5
re-doing battery compartment & Cables
Hi Bob,

FWIW, the training I got years ago was the best thing to do was to
first have a good mechanical connection and then a good solder
connection. I will say that I soldered all of the cables on my
converted coach and never had a failure but I had two failures of the
Bird which had "factory" swaged connectors. I would prefer to swage
the connection and then add solder. That give the best of both worlds.
I have had too many failures with swaged connections both electrical
and hydraulic to trust them very much...

George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD

Bob & Carol Howald` wrote:

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> Well, after all the comment's I might have to reconsider my method's.
> I have used the solder connection in the past and it always seemed to
> work good. I used it on my 84pt and it seemed to work very well for a
> number of years. I always heated both the wire and the fitting before
> inserting the cable into the hot solder. used heat shrink on the cable
> and it always seemed to be ok. I wonder what the difference in
> resistance is in copper direct verses the solder direct? Now I have to
> give this lot's of thought. I have the old charger's out and all the
> trays sandblasted , now Iam ready to do the epoxy paint. Thanks for the
> input and I welcome any more suggestions. I really like doing the
> solder connections, But? Thanks...Bob 93pt Illinois....
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04-16-2005, 06:51
Post: #6
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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob & Carol Howald`"
wrote:
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Sid Clark"
> <sidclark99@y...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob & Carol Howald`"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, after all the comment's I might have to reconsider my
> > method's.
> > > I have used the solder connection in the past and it always
> seemed to
> > > work good. I used it on my 84pt and it seemed to work very
well
> for a
> > > number of years. I always heated both the wire and the fitting
> before
> > > inserting the cable into the hot solder. used heat shrink on
the
> > cable
> > > and it always seemed to be ok. I wonder what the difference in
> > > resistance is in copper direct verses the solder direct? Now I
h
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> :
> Sid Iam not familiar with the epoxy primer. What I"ve used in the
> past is just the two part paint that come's in a box and you mix
the
> two together for use on appliances etc. Tell me about the primer.
> I've got the tray's down to bare metal. Thanks Bob 93pt Illinois
> > to
> > > give this lot's of thought. I have the old charger's out and
all
> the
> > > trays sandblasted , now Iam ready to do the epoxy paint.
Thanks
> for
> > the
> > > input and I welcome any more suggestions. I really like doing
the
> > > solder connections, But? Thanks...Bob 93pt Illinois....
> >
> > Bob, you gonna put epoxy primer under that?
> > Sid Clark in Dallas-91WBSA40

Bob,
I'm not sure what type of epoxy paint you are using. Read the label
and see if they recommend a primer. If not, Dupont Imron would be a
good choice. Available at auto paint supply stores. It is the same
primer used under the finish coat on our coaches. Two part epoxy
also. Sandblasting the battery boxes is a lot of work and you want
to be sure you are putting the most durable paint on it you can
find. You don't want to have to do it a second time. That is one of
the harshest enviornments there is for paint. About the only thing
worse would be to add salt water.
Sid Clark in Dallas-91WBSA40
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04-16-2005, 10:23
Post: #7
re-doing battery compartment & Cables
I think I'd like to see it painted and then a truck-bed-liner paint
like "rhino liner" or equivalent. Seems that abrasion of the paint is
the first breach.

I'm not sure what the acid resistance is of these products.

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net
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