Bye bye Microphor! - luckyron1 -  04-30-2011 20:16
 
 
We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator  
(WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on 
the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it 
because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp 
fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which 
is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, 
forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up 
thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the 
toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch 
on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by 
a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We 
recommend him highly. 
 
2000 LXI 
About to leave for MN
 
 
 
Bye bye Microphor! - Ron Thompson -  05-01-2011 03:10
 
 
I have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so far. What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like. I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your input. 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
 
1995 WLWB 42' 
 
(cockyfox@...) 
 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1  wrote: 
From: luckyron1  
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM 
 
 
 
We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly.  
 
 
 
2000 LXI 
 
About to leave for MN  
 
 
 
 
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Bye bye Microphor! - Curt Sprenger -  05-01-2011 03:53
 
 
I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded.  
 
à à  Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA 
"curtsprenger@gmail.com" 
 
 
 
 
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson  <"cockyfox@sbcglobal.net"> wrote:
 
à
I have a Microphor in my rig.à I have had no trouble with it, at least so far.à What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like.à I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for.à Thanks for your input. 
 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
 
1995 WLWB 42' 
 
("cockyfox@sbcglobal.net") 
 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <"luckyron1@yahoo.com"> wrote: 
 
From: luckyron1 <"luckyron1@yahoo.com"> 
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" 
 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM 
 
à
 
 
We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly.  
 
 
 
2000 LXI 
 
About to leave for MN  
 
 
 
 
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Bye bye Microphor! - lspargur -  05-01-2011 03:54
 
 
I also have a Microphor in my rig.  I have had no trouble with it, at least so 
far.  What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like? I am curious and 
wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for.  Thanks for your 
input. 
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1  wrote: 
> 
> From: luckyron1  
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
> Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM 
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>       We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus 
Macerator  (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the 
chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use 
it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp 
fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which 
is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, 
forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up 
thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the 
toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch 
on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by 
a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We 
recommend him highly. 
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> 2000 LXI 
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> About to leave for MN 
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Bye bye Microphor! - Ron Thompson -  05-01-2011 04:14
 
 
Curt, 
 
You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while camping dry. My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a leak somewhere. 
 
I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would have in your home. That would be completely gravity flow with your coach fresh water pump providing the flow pressure. But wouldn't that use more water? I don't see that would be a good system. 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
 
1995 WLWB 42' 
 
(cockyfox@...) 
 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger  wrote: 
From: Curt Sprenger  
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM 
 
I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded. 
   Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 curtsprenger@...
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson  <cockyfox@...> wrote:
 
I have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so far. What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like. I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your input. 
 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
 
1995 WLWB 42' 
 
(cockyfox@...) 
 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> wrote: 
 
From: luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> 
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM 
 
 
 
We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly.  
 
 
 
2000 LXI 
 
About to leave for MN  
 
 
 
 
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Bye bye Microphor! - Curt Sprenger -  05-01-2011 05:27
 
 
I replaced the Microphor with the Dometic (Sealand) 510H Toilet Std Height w/Spray Bone 302951003. Also a riser to raise the toilet height (more comfortable). We flush using the hand spray most of the time...uses a lot less water, maybe 1/4 of what the Microphor used.  
 
 Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA 
"curtsprenger@gmail.com" 
 
 
 
 
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Ron Thompson  <"cockyfox@sbcglobal.net"> wrote:
 
à
Curt, 
 
You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while camping dry.à My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a leak somewhere. 
 
 
I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would have in your home. That would be completely gravity flowà with your coach fresh water pump providing the flow pressure.à But wouldn't that use more water?à I don't see that would be a good system.
 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
 
1995 WLWB 42' 
 
("cockyfox@sbcglobal.net") 
 
 --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote: 
 
From: Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> 
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
 
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM
à
I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded. 
 
à à  Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 curtsprenger@...
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson  <cockyfox@...> wrote:
 
à
I have a Microphor in my rig.à I have had no trouble with it, at least so far.à What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like.à I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for.à Thanks for your input. 
 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
 
1995 WLWB 42' 
 
(cockyfox@...) 
 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> wrote: 
 
From: luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> 
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM 
 
à
 
 
We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly.  
 
 
 
2000 LXI 
 
About to leave for MN  
 
 
 
 
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Bye bye Microphor! - birdshill123 -  05-01-2011 11:44
 
 
Over the years we have changed out 4 thetfords for Sealands. IMHO it is the 
best RV toilet on the market Flushes with about 1 pint! Not as attractive as 
what would be in a Bird but very practical. Our SOB is a Dynasty and it has  
Thetford Tecma. 12 volt flush , gorgeous and can even be had in Black. But I am 
considering a Sealand as the Tecma uses about a gallon to flush!! It is a 
macerator. Aren't the toilets in some birds away from the holding tank. If so a 
Sealand would not work. 
 
  Bruce 
 
88 FC35
 
 
 
Bye bye Microphor! - Wayne Kotila -  05-03-2011 16:10
 
 
Ron, have you ever drained the water from the pressure tank on the toilette compressor? They should be drained occasionally and the flat tank pressure should be checked and added to if necessary, this will decrease the frequency that the compressor runs. 
Wayne Kotila 
96PT42 
 
 
 
From: Ron Thompson  
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:14:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
 
Curt, 
 
You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while camping dry. My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a leak somewhere. 
 
I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would have in your home. That would be completely gravity flow with your coach fresh water pump providing the flow pressure. But wouldn't that use more water? I don't see that would be a good system. 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
1995 WLWB 42' 
(cockyfox@...) 
 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger  wrote: 
 
From: Curt Sprenger  
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM 
 
 
 
I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded. 
   Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 curtsprenger@...
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson  <cockyfox@...> wrote:
 
 
I have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so far. What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like. I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your input. 
 
 
Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
1995 WLWB 42' 
(cockyfox@...) 
 
--- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> wrote: 
 
From: luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> 
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM 
 
 
 
 
 
We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly.  
 
2000 LXI 
About to leave for MN 
 
 
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Bye bye Microphor! - luckyron1 -  05-05-2011 09:38
 
 
Wayne, thanks for replying.  Yes, we were aware of and did do the regular 
draining, as well as other suggested maintenance, and it was helpful from time 
to time.  However, in my opinion, in the long run, the Microphor just is not 
designed for, and will not stand up to full-time usage.  I'm almost ashamed to 
admit it but, including replacement with the Vetus Macerator, since 2003, we 
have put over 4,500.00 into waste disposal.  I really hope that you have better 
luck with yours. 
 
2000 LXI enrout to MN 
 
 
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Kotila  wrote: 
> 
> Ron, have you ever drained the water from the pressure tank on the toilette 
> compressor? They should be drained occasionally and the flat tank pressure 
> should be checked and added to if necessary, this will decrease the frequency 
> that the compressor runs. 
> 
> Wayne Kotila 
> 96PT42 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________ 
> From: Ron Thompson  
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:14:46 AM 
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
> 
> Ã 
> Curt, 
> 
> You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while 
> camping dry.Ã  My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a 
> leak somewhere. 
> 
> I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would 
> have in your home. That would be completely gravity flowà with your coach 
fresh 
> water pump providing the flow pressure.Ã  But wouldn't that use more water?Ã  
I 
> don't see that would be a good system. 
> 
> 
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
> 1995 WLWB 42' 
> (cockyfox@...) 
> 
> --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger  wrote: 
> 
> 
> >From: Curt Sprenger  
> >Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
> >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
> >Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM 
> > 
> > 
> >Ã 
> >I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry 
> >camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date 
compressor 
> >purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less 
> >complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor 
and 
> >the hopper set up leaving us stranded. 
> > 
> >Ã  Ã 
> >Curt Sprenger 
> >1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
> >Anaheim Hills, CA 
> >curtsprenger@... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson  wrote: 
> > 
> >Ã 
> >>I have a Microphor in my rig.Ã  I have had no trouble with it, at least so 
far.Ã 
> >>What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like.Ã  I am curious and 
wondering 
> >>if it is something I should be on the lookout for.Ã  Thanks for your input. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 
> >>1995 WLWB 42' 
> >>(cockyfox@...) 
> >> 
> >>--- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1  wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>From: luckyron1  
> >>>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! 
> >>>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
> >>>Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>Ã 
> >>>We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator 
> >>>(WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase 
on 
> >>>the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it 
> >>>because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 
amp 
> >>>fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay 
(which 
> >>>is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, 
> >>>forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to 
come up 
> >>>thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind 
the 
> >>>toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the 
switch 
> >>>on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional 
job by 
> >>>a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV 
Service. We 
> >>>recommend him highly. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>2000 LXI 
> >>>About to leave for MN 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> > 
>
 
 
 
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