Painting Radome - contrail Bob -  10-03-2009 03:17
 
 
Goodmoring all,  I want to paint the radome used with the satalite system on top 
of the coach. It's the origional factory white and I would like to paint it to 
match the A/c's on top.  I understand you cannot use a metalic paint or primer, 
anything else I should consider.   Thanks, Bob 99LX..Illinois
 
 
 
Painting Radome - Curt Sprenger -  10-03-2009 03:27
 
 
Paint Additives To Avoid on Radomes 
In general, the objective is to provide an electromagnetically transparent coating which will not affect the 
radiation properties of the antenna. In order to prevent problems, the paint manufacturer should be 
 
advised to only provide products which do ââ¬ÅNOTââ¬Â contain any electrically conductive or metallic (either 
ferrous or non ferrous) materials. Examples of these materials typically used in paints are; graphite, 
carbon, red oxide, metallic flakes, etc ...  
 
 Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA 
 
 
 
 
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:17 AM, contrail Bob  <"rhowald@frontiernet.net"> wrote:
 
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Goodmoring all, I want to paint the radome used with the satalite system on top of the coach. It's the origional factory white and I would like to paint it to match the A/c's on top. I understand you cannot use a metalic paint or primer, anything else I should consider. Thanks, Bob 99LX..Illinois 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
Painting Radome - GARY MINKER -  10-05-2009 08:40
 
 
Curt is right but you can NEVER know what paints will have traces of metals, any metals and your shiny new antler becomes deaf as a post or stupid. This is a common problem in Broadcast antenna work. People buy the cheap paint and wonder why the radome caught fire. 
Gary 
85 PT-40 
 
--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Curt Sprenger  wrote: 
From: Curt Sprenger  
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:27 AM 
 
Paint Additives To Avoid on Radomes
In general, the objective is to provide an electromagnetically transparent coating which will not affect the 
radiation properties of the antenna. In order to prevent problems, the paint manufacturer should be
 
advised to only provide products which do ââ¬ÅNOTââ¬Â contain any electrically conductive or metallic (either 
ferrous or non ferrous) materials. Examples of these materials typically used in paints are; graphite, 
carbon, red oxide, metallic flakes, etc ... 
 Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:17 AM, contrail Bob  <rhowald@frontiernet .net> wrote:
 
 
 
Goodmoring all, I want to paint the radome used with the satalite system on top of the coach. It's the origional factory white and I would like to paint it to match the A/c's on top. I understand you cannot use a metalic paint or primer, anything else I should consider. Thanks, Bob 99LX..Illinois 
 
 
 
  
 
    
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Painting Radome - Dorn Hetzel -  10-05-2009 09:34
 
 
I suspect you might be able to tell whether or not paint contained measurable metalsby microwaving a sample in a glass container and watching for sparks   
 Dorn Hetzel 77FC35 
Hogansville, GA 
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM, GARY MINKER  <"garym33407@yahoo.com"> wrote:
 
 
Curt is right but you can NEVER know what paints will have traces of metals, any metals and your shiny new antler becomes deaf as a post or stupid.  This is a common problem in Broadcast antenna work.  People buy the cheap paint and wonder why the radome caught fire. 
 
Gary 
85 PT-40 
 
--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote: 
 
From: Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> 
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" 
 
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:27 AM
 
Paint Additives To Avoid on Radomes
In general, the objective is to provide an electromagnetically transparent coating which will not affect the 
radiation properties of the antenna. In order to prevent problems, the paint manufacturer should be
 
advised to only provide products which do âNOTâ contain any electrically conductive or metallic (either 
ferrous or non ferrous) materials. Examples of these materials typically used in paints are; graphite, 
carbon, red oxide, metallic flakes, etc ... 
 Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:17 AM, contrail Bob  <rhowald@frontiernet .net> wrote:
 
 
 
 
Goodmoring all, I want to paint the radome used with the satalite system on top of the coach. It's the origional factory white and I would like to paint it to match the A/c's on top. I understand you cannot use a metalic paint or primer, anything else I should consider. Thanks, Bob 99LX..Illinois 
 
 
 
  
 
    
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Painting Radome - GARY MINKER -  10-05-2009 13:18
 
 
Hi 
I am afraid the only reliable ways are mass spectrometry and capacitance on a thin film surface. Mass spec I can't do, Capacitance I can but that is only partially reliable. the data sheets from the manufacturer are best but some times a poor judge of the R.F. affects. Painting radomes is never a good thing. Stains are a safer bet but not always reliable due to minerals. 
 
--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Dorn Hetzel  wrote: 
From: Dorn Hetzel  
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 5:34 PM 
 
I suspect you might be able to tell whether or not paint contained measurable metals by microwaving a sample in a glass container and watching for sparks   
 Dorn Hetzel 77FC35 
Hogansville, GA 
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM, GARY MINKER  <garym33407@yahoo. com> wrote:
 
Curt is right but you can NEVER know what paints will have traces of metals, any metals and your shiny new antler becomes deaf as a post or stupid. This is a common problem in Broadcast antenna work. People buy the cheap paint and wonder why the radome caught fire. 
 
Gary 
85 PT-40 
 
--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Curt Sprenger <curtsprenger@ gmail.com> wrote: 
 
From: Curt Sprenger <curtsprenger@ gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com 
 
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:27 AM
Paint Additives To Avoid on Radomes
In general, the objective is to provide an electromagnetically transparent coating which will not affect the 
radiation properties of the antenna. In order to prevent problems, the paint manufacturer should be
 
advised to only provide products which do ââ¬ÅNOTââ¬Â contain any electrically conductive or metallic (either 
ferrous or non ferrous) materials. Examples of these materials typically used in paints are; graphite, 
carbon, red oxide, metallic flakes, etc ... 
 Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:17 AM, contrail Bob  <rhowald@frontiernet .net> wrote:
 
 
 
Goodmoring all, I want to paint the radome used with the satalite system on top of the coach. It's the origional factory white and I would like to paint it to match the A/c's on top. I understand you cannot use a metalic paint or primer, anything else I should consider. Thanks, Bob 99LX..Illinois 
 
 
 
  
 
    
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Painting Radome - Dorn Hetzel -  10-06-2009 01:27
 
 
Paint a big sheet of plastic with the paint and hold it in the beam-path of your directv dish while watching the signal meter on the setup menu of the satellite box   
 
 
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:18 PM, GARY MINKER  <"garym33407@yahoo.com"> wrote:
 
  
Hi 
I am afraid the only reliable ways are mass spectrometry and capacitance on a thin film surface.  Mass spec I can't do, Capacitance I can but that is only partially reliable.  the data sheets from the manufacturer are best but some times a poor judge of the R.F. affects.  Painting radomes is never a good thing.  Stains are a safer bet but not always reliable due to minerals. 
 
 
--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Dorn Hetzel <"dorn@hetzel.org"> wrote: 
 
From: Dorn Hetzel <"dorn@hetzel.org"> 
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" 
 Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 5:34 PM 
  
I suspect you might be able to tell whether or not paint contained measurable metals
 by microwaving a sample in a glass container and watching for sparks    
 
Dorn Hetzel 
77FC35 
Hogansville, GA 
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM, GARY MINKER  <garym33407@yahoo. com> wrote:
 
  
Curt is right but you can NEVER know what paints will have traces of metals, any metals and your shiny new antler becomes deaf as a post or stupid.  This is a common problem in Broadcast antenna work.  People buy the cheap paint and wonder why the radome caught fire. 
 
Gary 
85 PT-40 
 
--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Curt Sprenger <curtsprenger@ gmail.com> wrote: 
 
From: Curt Sprenger <curtsprenger@ gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
 
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com 
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:27 AM 
  
Paint Additives To Avoid on Radomes
In general, the objective is to provide an electromagnetically transparent coating which will not affect the 
radiation properties of the antenna. In order to prevent problems, the paint manufacturer should be
 
advised to only provide products which do âNOTâ contain any electrically conductive or metallic (either 
ferrous or non ferrous) materials. Examples of these materials typically used in paints are; graphite, 
carbon, red oxide, metallic flakes, etc ... 
 Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:17 AM, contrail Bob  <rhowald@frontiernet .net> wrote:
 
  
 
 
Goodmoring all, I want to paint the radome used with the satalite system on top of the coach. It's the origional factory white and I would like to paint it to match the A/c's on top. I understand you cannot use a metalic paint or primer, anything else I should consider. Thanks, Bob 99LX..Illinois 
 
 
 
     
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Painting Radome - GARY MINKER -  10-06-2009 06:38
 
 
That is a super idea. Make sure you try the raw plastic first so your results are accurate 
 
--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Dorn Hetzel  wrote: 
From: Dorn Hetzel  
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 9:27 AM 
 
Paint a big sheet of plastic with the paint and hold it in the beam-path of your directv dish while watching the signal meter on the setup menu of the satellite box   
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:18 PM, GARY MINKER  <garym33407@yahoo. com> wrote:
 
 
Hi 
I am afraid the only reliable ways are mass spectrometry and capacitance on a thin film surface. Mass spec I can't do, Capacitance I can but that is only partially reliable. the data sheets from the manufacturer are best but some times a poor judge of the R.F. affects. Painting radomes is never a good thing. Stains are a safer bet but not always reliable due to minerals. 
 
 
--- On Mon, 10/5/09, Dorn Hetzel <dorn@hetzel. org> wrote: 
 
From: Dorn Hetzel <dorn@hetzel. org> Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 5:34 PM 
 
I suspect you might be able to tell whether or not paint contained measurable metals
 by microwaving a sample in a glass container and watching for sparks    
 
Dorn Hetzel 
77FC35 
Hogansville, GA 
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM, GARY MINKER  <garym33407@yahoo. com> wrote:
 
 
Curt is right but you can NEVER know what paints will have traces of metals, any metals and your shiny new antler becomes deaf as a post or stupid. This is a common problem in Broadcast antenna work. People buy the cheap paint and wonder why the radome caught fire. 
 
Gary 
85 PT-40 
 
--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Curt Sprenger <curtsprenger@ gmail.com> wrote: 
 
From: Curt Sprenger <curtsprenger@ gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting Radome 
 
To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com 
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:27 AM 
 
Paint Additives To Avoid on Radomes
In general, the objective is to provide an electromagnetically transparent coating which will not affect the 
radiation properties of the antenna. In order to prevent problems, the paint manufacturer should be
 
advised to only provide products which do ââ¬ÅNOTââ¬Â contain any electrically conductive or metallic (either 
ferrous or non ferrous) materials. Examples of these materials typically used in paints are; graphite, 
carbon, red oxide, metallic flakes, etc ... 
 Curt Sprenger 
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" 
Anaheim Hills, CA
 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:17 AM, contrail Bob  <rhowald@frontiernet .net> wrote:
 
 
 
 
Goodmoring all, I want to paint the radome used with the satalite system on top of the coach. It's the origional factory white and I would like to paint it to match the A/c's on top. I understand you cannot use a metalic paint or primer, anything else I should consider. Thanks, Bob 99LX..Illinois 
 
 
 
     
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