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problem with leveling system. - nslinkman - 01-24-2009 08:34

I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be located.
Thanks
Nelson SLinkman
Westminster, Md


problem with leveling system. - pattypape - 01-24-2009 08:44

it sounds like one of the jacks are not fully retracted.
Use a floor jack to give it a slight nudge or a piece of wood 2" X 4"
to give it a tap . This should find the culprit.
The retracting springs become weak,& there is dirt and road debris on
the springs. If the fronts are kick down type, start there and spray
the springs with a lubricant. Use only transmission fluid on the
shiney cylinders.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "nslinkman"
wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
> buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
> adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be
located.
> Thanks
> Nelson SLinkman
> Westminster, Md
>


problem with leveling system. - nelson slinkman - 01-24-2009 09:03

Thanks Bill,
I already tried that. They look like they are up all the way up. I noticed a couple of times on auto they did not level the coach correct.

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, pattypape wrote:
From: pattypape
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: problem with leveling system.
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 3:44 PM


it sounds like one of the jacks are not fully retracted.
Use a floor jack to give it a slight nudge or a piece of wood 2" X 4"
to give it a tap . This should find the culprit.
The retracting springs become weak,& there is dirt and road debris on
the springs. If the fronts are kick down type, start there and spray
the springs with a lubricant. Use only transmission fluid on the
shiney cylinders.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "nslinkman"
wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
> buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
> adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be
located.
> Thanks
> Nelson SLinkman
> Westminster,
Md
>




problem with leveling system. - nelson slinkman - 01-24-2009 09:15

Thanks Bill,
I already tried that. They look like they are up all the way up. I noticed a
couple of times on auto they did not level the coach correct.

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, pattypape wrote:

From: pattypape
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: problem with leveling system.
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 3:44 PM







it sounds like one of the jacks are not fully retracted.
Use a floor jack to give it a slight nudge or a piece of wood 2" X 4"
to give it a tap . This should find the culprit.
The retracting springs become weak,& there is dirt and road debris on
the springs. If the fronts are kick down type, start there and spray
the springs with a lubricant. Use only transmission fluid on the
shiney cylinders.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "nslinkman"
wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
> buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
> adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be
located.
> Thanks
> Nelson SLinkman
> Westminster, Md
>


problem with leveling system. - Pete Masterson - 01-24-2009 10:42

The level control for the HWH jacks is located on the front bulkhead in the basement, just about dead center. On my '95, the box is silver. Before opening and fiddling with the level sensor, contact HWH and get their instructions on how to adjust it. (After going over the procedure, I decided that the slight off-level I sometimes get wasn't worth the bother. I let the system work on "auto" -- then when it's finished, I check the level of the kitchen counter (with a spirit-level) and if it's significantly 'off' then I'll turn the HWH controller back on and tweak the level manually. For whatever reason, about a third of the time, the auto level will leave the curb side about 1/4 bubble high. Note that the tolerance of the HWH auto system is considered 1/4 bubble. Two thirds of the time, the auto setting gets me reasonably level, so no adjustment is needed.
As for the 'jacks not in travel position' alarm, you probably have a slightly weak spring. As suggested, prying up on each jack will probably identify the "bad" one. The low jack may not be at all obvious -- I've had the alarm signaling, but the jacks appeared to be fully retracted. After another (seemingly eternal) interval, the alarm would stop.
Also, check the fluid level in the reservoir (under the little door on the entry steps) -- but don't overfill, as that can make a serious mess.
Note, I had questions about my HWH jacks -- and I was able to get some very helpful advice from the HWH factory by calling them. The person I was connected with was very knowledgeable and explained how the system works and how much out-of-level would be worth playing with the sensor, since it's "in spec" range error may be rather more than you might assume.
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"



On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:15 PM, nelson slinkman wrote:

Thanks Bill,
I already tried that. They look like they are up all the way up. I noticed a couple of times on auto they did not level the coach correct.

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, pattypape <"billpatty@hotmail.com"> wrote:

From: pattypape <"billpatty@hotmail.com">
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: problem with leveling system.
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 3:44 PM

it sounds like one of the jacks are not fully retracted.
Use a floor jack to give it a slight nudge or a piece of wood 2" X 4"
to give it a tap . This should find the culprit.
The retracting springs become weak,& there is dirt and road debris on
the springs. If the fronts are kick down type, start there and spray
the springs with a lubricant. Use only transmission fluid on the
shiney cylinders.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "nslinkman"
wrote:
I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be
located.
Thanks
Nelson SLinkman
Westminster, Md

















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problem with leveling system. - Hisham Amaral - 01-24-2009 12:56

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "nslinkman"
wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
> buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
> adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be
located.
> Thanks
> Nelson SLinkman
> Westminster, Md
>Nelson

Check you HWH display and see which jack is indicating down. You can
disconnect the wire that goes on the sensor and see if your light
goes out if the light goes out the sensor is bad, you need to replace
it. I had the same problem going back home in April last year, I
found the sensor on the front side jack is bad. I replaced the sensor
that corrected problem, on our way out to CA. I had HWH replace the
remaining 3. No problem since.
If you don't want to change out the sensor your self you can pull the
fuse that powers the buzzer to keep things quite until you find a
dealer to correct the condition. The sensor that went bad on my coach
was on the front passenger wheel it was easy to replace.
Good luck

Hisham Amaral
97 Wanderlodge 43'
Titusville FL for the winter
Home is Michigan


problem with leveling system. - nelson slinkman - 01-27-2009 09:26

Pete, Thanks for all the information. I just got back in town and I will try to check it out this weekend.
Thanks Again
Nelson SLinkman

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
From: Pete Masterson
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: problem with leveling system.
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 5:42 PM


The level control for the HWH jacks is located on the front bulkhead in the basement, just about dead center. On my '95, the box is silver. Before opening and fiddling with the level sensor, contact HWH and get their instructions on how to adjust it. (After going over the procedure, I decided that the slight off-level I sometimes get wasn't worth the bother. I let the system work on "auto" -- then when it's finished, I check the level of the kitchen counter (with a spirit-level) and if it's significantly 'off' then I'll turn the HWH controller back on and tweak the level manually. For whatever reason, about a third of the time, the auto level will leave the curb side about 1/4 bubble high. Note that the tolerance of the HWH auto system is considered 1/4 bubble. Two thirds of the time, the auto setting gets me reasonably level, so no adjustment is needed.
As for the 'jacks not in travel position' alarm, you probably have a slightly weak spring. As suggested, prying up on each jack will probably identify the "bad" one. The low jack may not be at all obvious -- I've had the alarm signaling, but the jacks appeared to be fully retracted. After another (seemingly eternal) interval, the alarm would stop.
Also, check the fluid level in the reservoir (under the little door on the entry steps) -- but don't overfill, as that can make a serious mess.
Note, I had questions about my HWH jacks -- and I was able to get some very helpful advice from the HWH factory by calling them. The person I was connected with was very knowledgeable and explained how the system works and how much out-of-level would be worth playing with the sensor, since it's "in spec" range error may be rather more than you might assume.



Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"




On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:15 PM, nelson slinkman wrote:


Thanks Bill,
I already tried that. They look like they are up all the way up. I noticed a couple of times on auto they did not level the coach correct.

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, pattypape <"billpatty@hotmail.com"> wrote:

From: pattypape <"billpatty@hotmail.com">
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: problem with leveling system.
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 3:44 PM

it sounds like one of the jacks are not fully retracted.
Use a floor jack to give it a slight nudge or a piece of wood 2" X 4"
to give it a tap . This should find the culprit.
The retracting springs become weak,& there is dirt and road debris on
the springs. If the fronts are
kick down type, start there and spray
the springs with a lubricant. Use only transmission fluid on the
shiney cylinders.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

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wrote:

I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be
located.

Thanks
Nelson SLinkman
Westminster, Md

















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problem with leveling system. - nelson slinkman - 01-27-2009 09:30

Hisham,
All my light are out. It all look good, but i will call and check to see if one of the senors are bad.
Thanks for your help
Nelson Slinkman

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Hisham Amaral wrote:
From: Hisham Amaral
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: problem with leveling system.
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 7:56 PM


--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "nslinkman"
wrote:
>
> I have a 1994 40' coach. When I put up my leveling system it still
> buzzes at the dash even thought all 4 levelers are up. Is there an
> adjustment for the HWH leveling system? If so where would it be
located.
> Thanks
> Nelson SLinkman
> Westminster, Md
>Nelson

Check you HWH display and see which jack is indicating down. You can
disconnect the wire that goes on the sensor and see if your light
goes out if the light goes out the sensor is bad, you need to replace
it. I had the same problem going back home in April last year, I
found the sensor on the front side jack is bad. I replaced the sensor
that corrected problem, on our way out to CA. I had HWH replace the
remaining 3. No problem
since.
If you don't want to change out the sensor your self you can pull the
fuse that powers the buzzer to keep things quite until you find a
dealer to correct the condition. The sensor that went bad on my coach
was on the front passenger wheel it was easy to replace.
Good luck

Hisham Amaral
97 Wanderlodge 43'
Titusville FL for the winter
Home is Michigan