From: Wallace Craig
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Attention Todd Moning
To: membership@...
Cc: "ernie Idontknow" , wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Fullenwider"
Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 6:51 PM

Your article on "Texas drivers license requirements" does not square with Texas Transportation Codechapter 522 which at TRC 522.004 exempts fromCDL requirements "persons operating recreational vehicles for personal use".I realize that you got information from Beth Roberts at DPS whosaid that persons driving motorhomes in Texas need a class B CDL. I think you owe it to the many readers who rely upon you for accuracy the cost of a legal opinion from a qualified Texas attorney (other than me). As I poiinted out in my phone call, her opinion does not constitute binding legal precident which can only come from a decision by a court of competent jurisdiction. Wallace Craig 95 WLWB 42 Azle, Texas FMCA 86944

From: Don Bradner
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Attention Todd Moning
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:45 PM

Wallace,

Chaper 522 is purely about Commercial licenses. In fact the title of the Chapter is "Commercial Driver's Licenses," and you used the term CDL in your post.

The FMCA article is very clear:

"drivers whose motorhomes' GVWR exceeds 26,000 pounds should hold an exempt (noncommercial) Class B or Class A license."

Note the very, very, important "non" in front of commercial.

The section which requires a Class B for over 26K is 521.082. Whether a Class B is CDL or non-CDL is a separate matter.

You are correct that a CDL is not required.

Your are wrong about not needing a Class B.

On 4/2/2009 at 3:51 PM Wallace Craig wrote:

>Your article on "Texas drivers license requirements" does not square with
>Texas Transportation Codechapter 522 which at TRC 522.004 exempts
>fromCDL requirements "persons operating recreational vehicles
for
>personal use".I realize that you got information from Beth Roberts at
>DPS whosaid that persons driving motorhomes in Texas need a class B CDL.
>I think you owe it to the many readers who rely upon you for accuracy the
>cost of a legal opinion from a qualified Texas attorney (other than me).
>As I poiinted out in my phone call, her opinion does not constitute
>binding legal precident which can only come from a decision by a court of
>competent jurisdiction.
>
>Wallace Craig
>95 WLWB 42
>Azle, Texas
>FMCA 86944





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From: Wallace Craig
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Attention Todd Moning
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 10:12 PM

Don, the language under TRC 522.004 entitled "persons exempted from Texas CDL requirements specifically list "persons operating recreational vehicles for personal use." You and I do not read this article the same and I will undertake a further searchnext week when I have access to a law library Hopefully I can find a case or an attorney generals opinion; in the meantime I still contend that part 383 entitled Commercial Drivers license and list classA,B,AND Wallace Craig 95 WLWB 42 Azle, Texas --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Don Bradner wrote: From: Don Bradner Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Attention Todd Moning To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:45 PM Wallace, Chaper 522 is purely about Commercial licenses. In fact the title of the Chapter is "Commercial Driver's Licenses," and you used the term CDL in your post. The FMCA article is very clear: "drivers whose motorhomes' GVWR exceeds 26,000 pounds should hold an exempt (noncommercial) Class B or Class A license." Note the very, very, important "non" in front of commercial. The section which requires a Class B for over 26K is 521.082. Whether a Class B is CDL or non-CDL is a separate matter. You are correct that a CDL is not required. Your are wrong about not needing a Class B. On 4/2/2009 at 3:51 PM Wallace Craig wrote: >Your article on "Texas drivers license requirements" does not square with >Texas Transportation Codechapter 522 which at TRC 522.004 exempts >fromCDL requirements "persons operating recreational vehicles for >personal use".I realize that you got information from Beth Roberts at >DPS whosaid that persons driving motorhomes in Texas need a class B CDL. >I think you owe it to the many readers who rely upon you for accuracy the >cost of a legal opinion from a qualified Texas attorney (other than me). >As I poiinted out in my phone call, her opinion does not constitute >binding legal precident which can only come from a decision by a court of >competent jurisdiction. > >Wallace Craig >95 WLWB 42 >Azle, Texas >FMCA 86944 ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:WanderlodgeForum-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/