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That pesky Sporlan valve.... - doug_ngl - 11-21-2006 08:15 Hi Folks, Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a love/hate relationship without a doubt. I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge. On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start" postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand, so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts? Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35 That pesky Sporlan valve.... - Leroy Eckert - 11-21-2006 13:08 Doug: Disconnect the overtemp sender and see if it will run without assistance. If so, the sender is bad or grounded someway. If not, one of the switches may be stuck in the stop position. I had this problem with my overtemp sender. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL Leaving for Tampa AM ----- Original Message ----- From: doug_ngl To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] That pesky Sporlan valve.... Hi Folks, Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a love/hate relationship without a doubt. I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge. On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start" postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand, so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts? Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] That pesky Sporlan valve.... - davidkerryedwards - 11-21-2006 13:47 I'm not sure if your symptoms are consistent with its failure, but there is a low oil pressure sending switch on the generator that could be failing. Welcome home. Which way did you drive home and how did it do over the passes? Kerry 82 FC 35 Denver --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > Doug: > Disconnect the overtemp sender and see if it will run without assistance. If so, the sender is bad or grounded someway. If not, one of the switches may be stuck in the stop position. I had this problem with my overtemp sender. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL > Leaving for Tampa AM > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: doug_ngl > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:15 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] That pesky Sporlan valve.... > > > Hi Folks, > Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus > without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have > come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a > love/hate relationship without a doubt. > I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but > decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be > safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it > through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the > fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any > thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping > the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally > just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to > cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge. > On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it > now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start" > postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and > started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the > linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone > ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and > had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical > gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand, > so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts? > Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35 > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > That pesky Sporlan valve.... - davidkerryedwards - 11-21-2006 14:19 There should be a backflow prevention valve right at the hose hookup. Mine failed too so I just bought a brass hose shut off attachment and screwed it into the hose attachment and I can now shut off the water system manually. I dont think a failed Sporlan would let water blow out of the fill hook-up. Kerry 82 Fc 35 Denver --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "doug_ngl" > > Hi Folks, > Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus > without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have > come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a > love/hate relationship without a doubt. > I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but > decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be > safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it > through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the > fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any > thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping > the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally > just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to > cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge. > On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it > now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start" > postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and > started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the > linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone > ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and > had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical > gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand, > so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts? > Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35 > That pesky Sporlan valve.... - Howard O. Truitt - 11-21-2006 14:28 Doug, Congratulations on your new to you Bird and the safe trip home. And welcome to the pleasure and challenge of owning a "Grand Old Bird". Howard Truitt Camilla, Ga. 86 8V92 PT40 "Under The Rainbow" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] That pesky Sporlan valve.... - Jay Darst - 11-21-2006 15:54 Doug, Is your generator a diesel Perkins/Kohler 12.5KW? If so, my gen has a little spring that holds the throttle open against an adjustment screw. I once had a problem with the spring (broke) and the gen wouldn't stay running. Replaced the spring and it ran fine again. I am guessing on the Sporlan Valve having an affect on the shore water connection. If the sporlan valve is open, allowing flow from the shore water connection into the tank, seems as though if air pressure were introduced into the water system, that fluid would try to escape the air pressure. Therefore, my guess is the sporlan is hung open on a little crumb OR the 1-way valve on the shore inlet has a crumb in it. Jay Darst 85PT40 Springfield, IL --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "doug_ngl" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus > without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have > come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a > love/hate relationship without a doubt. > I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but > decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be > safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it > through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the > fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any > thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping > the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally > just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to > cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge. > On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it > now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start" > postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and > started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the > linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone > ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and > had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical > gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand, > so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts? > Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35 > That pesky Sporlan valve.... - Doug Engel - 11-21-2006 16:35 Kerry, Considered that (low oil pressure sending unit) and plan to check it out the weekend. We came home over Raton, LaVeta, and Cochetopa passes. Slow...really slow...20MPH. Good oil pressure, no overheating, but quite a grunt, especially the last one (11K'+). If we keep her, a repower may be in the future. Thanks for the suggestion and the welcome home wishes, Doug davidkerryedwards I'm not sure if your symptoms are consistent with its failure, but there is a low oil pressure sending switch on the generator that could be failing. Welcome home. Which way did you drive home and how did it do over the passes? Kerry 82 FC 35 Denver --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert" > > Doug: > Disconnect the overtemp sender and see if it will run without assistance. If so, the sender is bad or grounded someway. If not, one of the switches may be stuck in the stop position. I had this problem with my overtemp sender. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL > Leaving for Tampa AM > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: doug_ngl > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:15 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] That pesky Sporlan valve.... > > > Hi Folks, > Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus > without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have > come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a > love/hate relationship without a doubt. > I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but > decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be > safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it > through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the > fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any > thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping > the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally > just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to > cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge. > On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it > now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start" > postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and > started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the > linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone > ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and > had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical > gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand, > so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts? > Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35 > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Mortgage for $1,698/mo - Calculate new house payment [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] That pesky Sporlan valve.... - Doug Engel - 11-21-2006 16:38 Howard, Thanks for the good wishes. We really like the bus, but the lack of power at our altitude has us considering a sale and looking for another rig (or maybe a repower). They really are fantasic rigs, and all the attention is pretty neat as well. Doug "Howard O. Truitt" Congratulations on your new to you Bird and the safe trip home. And welcome to the pleasure and challenge of owning a "Grand Old Bird". Howard Truitt Camilla, Ga. 86 8V92 PT40 "Under The Rainbow" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate - Click now to apply [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] That pesky Sporlan valve.... - Doug Engel - 11-21-2006 16:41 Jay, The genset is a Perkins, I'll look at the spring situation and Sporlan/check valve this weekend and post an update. Doug Jay Darst Is your generator a diesel Perkins/Kohler 12.5KW? If so, my gen has a little spring that holds the throttle open against an adjustment screw. I once had a problem with the spring (broke) and the gen wouldn't stay running. Replaced the spring and it ran fine again. I am guessing on the Sporlan Valve having an affect on the shore water connection. If the sporlan valve is open, allowing flow from the shore water connection into the tank, seems as though if air pressure were introduced into the water system, that fluid would try to escape the air pressure. Therefore, my guess is the sporlan is hung open on a little crumb OR the 1-way valve on the shore inlet has a crumb in it. Jay Darst 85PT40 Springfield, IL --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "doug_ngl" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > Well, Lee and I made it home from Tampa to Colorado with the bus > without a hitch. There are a few items that need attention, but I have > come to accept that this is probably the way of these beasts...it is a > love/hate relationship without a doubt. > I did the air blowout of all the waterlines on the way home, but > decided to run a little RV antifreeze through the lines just to be > safe. I pumped some AF into the holding tank and the tried to purge it > through the system with air. I blew a bunch of my precious AF out the > fill connection. Does this sound like a stuck/clogged Sporlan?? Any > thoughts?? Outside switch was set to "off" (not fill), and flipping > the inside purge switch did not seem to have any effect. I finally > just connected a hose to the outside connection, folded it double to > cut off the escaping air/AF and then got the system to purge. > On another note, my genset that workrd fine the last time we ran it > now will start and run while the switch is held in teh "start" > postiion, but then die when released to "run". I went outside and > started it from teh outside remote and it will run if I hold the > linkage off the stop, but dies if left to its own devices. Has anyone > ever had a switch "stick" (electrically) in the "stop" position and > had this situation. I suppose it could be any of several electrical > gremlins, but it ran fine and now it won't unless you hold its hand, > so to speak. While running, it does produce power...any thoughts? > Thanks as always, Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO 1981 FC35 > Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO. 1981 FC35SB "Pokey" --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] That pesky Sporlan valve.... - davidkerryedwards - 11-21-2006 16:49 I've been over Raton with mine but not any higher passes yet. Not a speedster. I was down to 20mph on some hills in the Appalachians this summer. Mine has an aftermarket turbo on an NA. Are you thinking of repowering with a 3208T? It would be interesting to put two Birds, one turbo and one NA at the bottom of the pass and see how far ahead the turbo is at the top. Kerry 82 FC 35 Denvr --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel > > Kerry, > Considered that (low oil pressure sending unit) and plan to check it out the weekend. We came home over Raton, LaVeta, and Cochetopa passes. Slow...really slow...20MPH. Good oil pressure, no overheating, but quite a grunt, especially the last one (11K'+). If we keep her, a repower may be in the future. Thanks for the suggestion and the welcome home wishes, Doug |