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Bluebird Values - Jim Scudder - 03-31-2006 14:21 I am Bird watching and see prices all over the place on used Birds. Is there someplace like nada.com where one can baseline the values of used coaches? Thanks, Jim San Jose, CA Bluebird Values - birdshill123 - 04-01-2006 00:45 Jim : I am seeing the same price variance. There are no accurate "blue book" values for ANY RV's. NADA for cars is quite different. Ther are many thousands of sales of a car model every month. Dealers and auctions report the prices and Nada uses the data to come up with wholesale prices. Retail prices are from Fairy land. The NADA RV prices that are on the net are not even close. They have nothing to do with the prices of used units. They arrive at these prices by taking a depreciation % from new Retail. Dealers do not report sale prices to anyone. The values in the Blue Books are skewed to give the RV dealer huge profits. I doubt there are enough BB's sold in any one year to get any decent data. I have noticed that a lot of BB's are for sale for a long time. Some have been on the market for more than 2 years. Obviously they are overpriced. Any RV is only worth what people will pay! Reminds me of a guy in our city who had a 1970 Holiday Rambler pull trailer, 25 ft. He was the original owner. Had it advertised in 1998 for $7800.00!! After about 6 months in the Auito Trader he put it in those free "for sale" papers. It was still for sale in 2004. He died in 2005 and I dont know what happened to his jewel! Bluebird Values - Jerry - 04-01-2006 04:57 Jim, you are certainly correct on your observation of prices. There is a NADA RECREATION VEHICLE GUIDE that you can subscribe to for $105 per year. It is published every four months and is a very thick booklet. The prices in it are of very little use and are in almost all cases much higher than the existing market. The prices are not arrived at from real auctions and dealer sales as is the automobile NADA books. The NADA RV Guide certainly does not reflect the dive in prices of all RVs due to outrageous fuel price increases. I have noticed price drops on RV sales on EBAY are accelerating. Many private individuals have a real problem as they owe more than the vehicle is worth, commonly know as a upside down situation, so their asking price most of the time will not come down. I believe some Lending institutions in the past have loaned about 80% of the wholesale value found in the RV NADA book, if, you had very good credit, and the RV was only a few years old. I have heard that is changing due to the increasing numbers of Repossessions. Anyway, I am still looking and have decided to be patient until the right Coach at the right price comes along. I hope this helps and doesn't confuse the issue further. These are my personal opinions, others may not agree. I would like to hear from others on this subject. Jerry MS Gulf Coast Still Looking _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Scudder Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:22 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bluebird Values I am Bird watching and see prices all over the place on used Birds. Is there someplace like nada.com where one can baseline the values of used coaches? Thanks, Jim San Jose, CA _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Bluebird Values - Jerry - 04-01-2006 05:24 Jim, you are certainly correct on your observation of prices. There is a NADA RECREATION VEHICLE GUIDE that you can subscribe to for $105 per year. It is published every four months and is a very thick booklet. The prices in it are of very little use and are in almost all cases much higher than the existing market. The prices are not arrived at from real auctions and dealer sales as is the automobile NADA books. The NADA RV Guide certainly does not reflect the dive in prices of all RVs due to outrageous fuel price increases. I have noticed price drops on RV sales on EBAY are accelerating. Many private individuals have a real problem as they owe more than the vehicle is worth, commonly know as a upside down situation, so their asking price most of the time will not come down. I believe some Lending institutions in the past have loaned about 80% of the wholesale value found in the RV NADA book, if, you had very good credit, and the RV was only a few years old. I have heard that is changing due to the increasing numbers of Repossessions. Anyway, I am still looking and have decided to be patient until the right Coach at the right price comes along. I hope this helps and doesn't confuse the issue further. These are my personal opinions, others may not agree. I would like to hear from others on this subject. Jerry MS Gulf Coast Still Looking _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Scudder Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 9:22 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bluebird Values I am Bird watching and see prices all over the place on used Birds. Is there someplace like nada.com where one can baseline the values of used coaches? Thanks, Jim San Jose, CA _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Bluebird Values - birdshill123 - 04-01-2006 05:31 Jerry: If you read my post we are on the same wave length. If one is selling a house, an appreciating asset, then waiting for your price may be wise. But an RV is a depreciating asset. If one is selling a MH, Blue Bird or otherwise, and it has been on the market for 2 years then the asking price is too much. I have seen FC35's from the mid 80's with prices of $54,000. That is obviously too high. If the unit has been for sale for a year or so then it is worth less than when it was first advertised. Those are my thoughts. Bruce |